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CHCA-TV is on the air

Effective yesterday, September 5th 2005, CKRD-TV officially disaffiliated from the CBC, was recalled as CHCA-TV, and became the fourth "CH" station. Now, it was my understanding that as part of this change, CHCA was going to broadcast on channel 10, and the new CBXT repeater would take over the old channel 6 allocation used by CKRD/CHCA?

That leaves 14 English-language private CBC affiliates:

- Kingston
- Peterborough
- Prescott, ON
- Brighton, ON
- Oshawa
- Thunder Bay
- Brandon, MB
- Lloydminster, AB
- Medicine Hat, AB
- Kamloops
- Kelowna
- Terrace, BC
- Prince George, BC
- Dawson Creek, BC

Kelowna's CHBC is already set to disaffiliate, likely sometime next year, while the stations in Prescott and Brighton were newly licensed late last year.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by mjlarochelle on 09/06/05 07:19 PM.</FONT></P>
 
>
> That leaves 14 English-language private CBC affiliates:
>
> - Kingston Channel 11 repeater in Brighton and Prescott
> - Peterborough Channel 12 repeater station in Oshawa on Ch. 22.
This may not be resolved until after HDTV is in effect. Proximity to T.O. could find them in a position for cable to put them in a 'must-carry' allocation. Right now it is a good deal for both sides. CTV is available, and Corus needs the minimum of a year to figure out a programming strategy for CHEX Peterborough, Oshawa, Bancroft, and Minden. Likewise the same proceedure needs to be done from CKWS Kingston and its rebroadcasters.
> - Thunder Bay may still be unique in Canada with the last(?) twin stick operation.
The CBC side will eventually become a repeater of CBLT Toronto - but Winnipeg would be neat too - called CBQT.
This call-lettering sequence is suggested using the logic when the CBC took over their side of Mid-Canada television.
CKNC-Ch.9 Sudbury became CBCST - CHNB-Ch.4 North Bay became CBCNT.

> - Brandon, MB
> - Lloydminster, AB
> - Medicine Hat, AB
> - Kamloops
> - Kelowna
> - Terrace, BC
> - Prince George, BC
> - Dawson Creek, BC
> - are any of these stations related?

As this is a CH, or CanWest, operation be prepared to expect lousy off air reception.

For example, from their Sudbury, Ontario operations, they run their CIII transmitter on Ch 11 at about 35,000 watts and the CH transmitter on Ch 41 at about the same wattage.
CTV's Ch. 5 xmtr is at 100,000 watts, CBC's Ch. 9 is now at 325,000 watts.

Guess they are relying on cable or satelite for further and wider carriage.
 
> > - Kingston Channel 11 repeater in Brighton and Prescott
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Not anymore. CKWS-1 and CKWS-2 are now separate television programming undertakings. The CRTC approved the deletion of the rebroadcasting transmitters of the same names late last year, and at the same time approved the two new CBC affiliates, to be co-owned with CKWS. So far a lot of programming is still duplicated on the two stations from CKWS, but there is a bit of separate news programming on at least CKWS-1.

> > - Peterborough Channel 12 repeater station in Oshawa on
> Ch. 22.
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Again, CHEX-2 Oshawa is not a repeater. The CRTC licensed a repeater for CHEX Peterborough in 1992, then the following year they approved the deletion of the transmitter and the establishment of a new programming undertaking. Today CHEX-2 has a considerably different schedule than CHEX Peterborough, although both are still owned by Corus.

> This may not be resolved until after HDTV is in effect.
> Proximity to T.O. could find them in a position for cable to
> put them in a 'must-carry' allocation. Right now it is a
> good deal for both sides. CTV is available, and Corus needs
> the minimum of a year to figure out a programming strategy
> for CHEX Peterborough, Oshawa, Bancroft, and Minden.
--------
Minden?! CHEX hasn't had a rebroadcaster in Minden in at least 20 years. The channel 7 allocation in the area went to Global, and CIII-TV-7 Midland began broadcasting in 1987.

> > - Thunder Bay may still be unique in Canada with the
> last(?) twin stick operation.
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There are several twin-sticks still operating in Canada. Lloydminster has CITL and CKSA; Rouyn-Noranda has CKRN and CFEM; Gatineau has CHOT and CFGS; Riviere-du-Loup has a triplet-stick of CKRT, CFTF, and CIMT. In addition several companies own multiple stations in one city, such as Rogers with CFMT and CJMT (Omni 1 and 2).

> The CBC side will eventually become a repeater of CBLT
> Toronto - but Winnipeg would be neat too - called CBQT.
--------
It will most likely become a CBLT repeater, as they already have CBLFT there and it is in the eastern time zone (unlike Kenora, which gets CBWT). However since the CBC already has a CBC Radio operation in Thunder Bay, it might not be impossible for CBQT to exist, taking over from CKPR channel 2. T.B.E.L. would continue to own CHFD, the CTV affiliate on channel 4. Thunder Bay is large enough to allow competition, instead of what I have heard is a very unpopular monopoly by Dougall Media, who also own several radio stations in TB.

> This call-lettering sequence is suggested using the logic
> when the CBC took over their side of Mid-Canada television.
> CKNC-Ch.9 Sudbury became CBCST - CHNB-Ch.4 North Bay became
> CBCNT.
--------
Those are not the callsigns for the former MCTV/CBC stations. CHNB North Bay became CBLT-4; CJIC Sault Ste. Marie became CBLT-5; CKNC Sudbury became CBLT-6; CFCL Timmins became CBLT-7.

> > - Brandon, MB
> > - Lloydminster, AB
> > - Medicine Hat, AB
> > - Kamloops
> > - Kelowna
> > - Terrace, BC
> > - Prince George, BC
> > - Dawson Creek, BC
> > - are any of these stations related?
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CHAT Medicine Hat, CKPG Prince George, and CFJC Kamloops are co-owned; CFTK Terrace and CJDC Dawson Creek are also co-owned.

> As this is a CH, or CanWest, operation be prepared to expect
> lousy off air reception.
>
> For example, from their Sudbury, Ontario operations, they
> run their CIII transmitter on Ch 11 at about 35,000 watts
> and the CH transmitter on Ch 41 at about the same wattage.
> CTV's Ch. 5 xmtr is at 100,000 watts, CBC's Ch. 9 is now at
> 325,000 watts.
--------
Sudbury's Global transmitters should be higher-powered, particularly since one is on UHF. Then again, they *are* repeaters of southern Ontario stations, and are not really necessary. CBC's Ch. 9 is higher powered than CTV's Ch. 5 (CICI) because maximum authorized power is 325 kW for channels 7-13, and 100 kW for channels 2-6.
 
> > - Thunder Bay may still be unique in Canada with the
> last(?) twin stick operation.

There's still one in Lloydminster. (and isn't there a French dual-stick operation in Sherbrooke?)

> CKNC-Ch.9 Sudbury became CBCST - CHNB-Ch.4 North Bay became
> CBCNT.

I-C database says these stations are CBLT-6 and CBLT-4 respectively. Are they identifying otherwise?
 
> > > - Thunder Bay may still be unique in Canada with the
> > last(?) twin stick operation.
>
> There's still one in Lloydminster. (and isn't there a
> French dual-stick operation in Sherbrooke?)
>
Yes -- a SRC/TQS combo operated by the latter. There are also twin sticks in Rouyn-Noranda (SRC/TVA), Gatineau/Ottawa (TVA/TQS) and Trois-Rivieres (SRC/TQS). There's also a triple-sticl in Riviere-du-Loup (SRC/TVA/TQS).
 
> > > > - Thunder Bay may still be unique in Canada with the
> > > last(?) twin stick operation.
> >
> > There's still one in Lloydminster. (and isn't there a
> > French dual-stick operation in Sherbrooke?)
> >
> Yes -- a SRC/TQS combo operated by the latter. There are
> also twin sticks in Rouyn-Noranda (SRC/TVA), Gatineau/Ottawa
> (TVA/TQS) and Trois-Rivieres (SRC/TQS). There's also a
> triple-sticl in Riviere-du-Loup (SRC/TVA/TQS).
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You guys just repeated my post of September 8th.
 
That's a lousy overgeneralization of things...

CHCA/CKRD's reception in Red Deer's pretty good. You can pick them up clearly with a handheld television. In Edmonton, the only station you'll have trouble getting with even a good set of rabbit ears is CFRN, however in Red Deer CFRN-TV-6 is pretty strong.

> As this is a CH, or CanWest, operation be prepared to expect
> lousy off air reception.
>
> For example, from their Sudbury, Ontario operations, they
> run their CIII transmitter on Ch 11 at about 35,000 watts
> and the CH transmitter on Ch 41 at about the same wattage.
> CTV's Ch. 5 xmtr is at 100,000 watts, CBC's Ch. 9 is now at
> 325,000 watts.
>
> Guess they are relying on cable or satelite for further and
> wider carriage.
>
 
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