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bigwoody

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This is SO the job for Scott Howitt! He's certainly qualified!



Chicago’s True Oldies Channel 94.7 FM is looking for an Afternoon Host. Must be knowledgeable and passionate about the oldies format. Minimum 5 years major market experience and proven ratings track record preferred. Must be able to execute a contemporary sounding, tight and upbeat music intensive format. Must be available for personal appearances on a regular basis. EOE. Please send resumes to:

94.7 Chicago's True Oldies Channel
Attn: Scott Dirks - Dept. A
190 N. State Street
Chicago, IL 60601
 
> This is SO the job for Scott Howitt! He's certainly
> qualified!
>

Agreed!

It's also nice to see the Chi-Town oldies station finally get off the bird totally. Only took 6 months...

>
> Chicago’s True Oldies Channel 94.7 FM is looking for an
> Afternoon Host. Must be knowledgeable and passionate about
> the oldies format. Minimum 5 years major market experience
> and proven ratings track record preferred. Must be able to
> execute a contemporary sounding, tight and upbeat music
> intensive format. Must be available for personal appearances
> on a regular basis. EOE. Please send resumes to:
>
> 94.7 Chicago's True Oldies Channel
> Attn: Scott Dirks - Dept. A
> 190 N. State Street
> Chicago, IL 60601
>
 
> > This is SO the job for Scott Howitt! He's certainly
> > qualified!
> >
>
> Agreed!

> I second that (e)motion! (Didn't Smokey say that?--Ugh I'm getting into my "Love Monkey-Tom Cavinaugh" mode) Anyway back to topic, he'd be a great fit. Now if he got the gig it would sure be nice of the station streamed on the web so we could hear it in C'town.<P ID="signature">______________
"I know they wanted Indy to win this game; the whole world loves Peyton Manning. But come on, man, don't take the game away from us like that."</P>
 
> > > This is SO the job for Scott Howitt! He's certainly
> > > qualified!
> > >
> >
> > Agreed!
>
> > I second that (e)motion! (Didn't Smokey say that?--Ugh I'm
> getting into my "Love Monkey-Tom Cavinaugh" mode) Anyway
> back to topic, he'd be a great fit. Now if he got the gig it
> would sure be nice of the station streamed on the web so we
> could hear it in C'town.
>
It would be nice but only if he gave up that rhyming schtick.

Mike Dane
WSTB-FM 88.9
SundayOldiesJukebox.com
 
> It would be nice but only if he gave up that rhyming
> schtick.


Huh?

That would be like saying that Mad Daddy would be great if he just stopped acting so crazy.
 
> > It would be nice but only if he gave up that rhyming
> > schtick.



--That's like asking McDonald's to stop serving hamburgers...
 
> > It would be nice but only if he gave up that rhyming
> > schtick.
>
>
> Huh?
>
> That would be like saying that Mad Daddy would be great if
> he just stopped acting so crazy.
>
Soctt has a fine voice and a good presentation but the rhyming
gets old real fast, He's not in Mad Daddy's league. Oh and
remember Mad Daddy bombed in NYC.

Mike Dane
WSTB-FM
SundayOldiesJukebox.com
 
> > > It would be nice but only if he gave up that rhyming
> > > schtick.
>
>
>
> --That's like asking McDonald's to stop serving
> hamburgers...
>
No it's not. Scott is a talented man and doesn't need
that schtick to shine.

Mike Dane
WSTB-FM 88.9
SundayOldiesJukebox.com
 
> > > > This is SO the job for Scott Howitt! He's certainly
> > > > qualified!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Agreed!
> >
> > > I second that (e)motion! (Didn't Smokey say that?--Ugh
> I'm
> > getting into my "Love Monkey-Tom Cavinaugh" mode) Anyway
> > back to topic, he'd be a great fit. Now if he got the gig
> it
> > would sure be nice of the station streamed on the web so
> we
> > could hear it in C'town.
> >
> It would be nice but only if he gave up that rhyming
> schtick.
>
> Mike Dane
> WSTB-FM 88.9
> SundayOldiesJukebox.com
>


Mike, with all due respect, that's what set Scott apart from the rest, and made him top 3 P25-54 for 11 years straight! Scott is the best music jock Cleveland has has in the last 25 years. Old school uniqueness, yet contemporary content. No one in commerical radio, nor non-comm, is even close in the Cleveland-Akron-Canton-Toledo-Columbus markets. Let's not forget "The Music Professor" Jim Labarbara, still doin' it old skool after 20 years at WGRR. He doesn't rhyme quite like Scott, but there's some in there. Scott could entertain with his personality - who else can do that?

I gotta shoot you down on this one.
 
> > > It would be nice but only if he gave up that rhyming
> > > schtick.
> >
> >
> > Huh?
> >
> > That would be like saying that Mad Daddy would be great if
>
> > he just stopped acting so crazy.
> >
> Soctt has a fine voice and a good presentation but the
> rhyming
> gets old real fast, He's not in Mad Daddy's league. Oh and
> remember Mad Daddy bombed in NYC.
>
> Mike Dane
> WSTB-FM
> SundayOldiesJukebox.com
>


So? What's NYC got to do with it? We're talkin' Cleveland. Lanigan bombed in Tampa. Is he a failure? Is his "schtick" tired? According to ratings/revenue/cume over the last 33 years (WGAR-AM, WMJI) I'd say...No!

Don't knock "schtick". It made lots of people; Milton Berle, Elvis, Howard Stern, Gary Dee, Rick Dees, Allan Freed, and the list goes on and on.
 
> > > > It would be nice but only if he gave up that rhyming
> > > > schtick.
> >
> >
> >
> > --That's like asking McDonald's to stop serving
> > hamburgers...
> >
> No it's not. Scott is a talented man and doesn't need
> that schtick to shine.
>
> Mike Dane
> WSTB-FM 88.9
> SundayOldiesJukebox.com
>


That's true, he doesn't need to. Which makes him all the more talented. He was at WZJM in the 80s, 10 years total, five as PD. Also at ZIP 106 and stints in Baltimore at Top 40 stations. His "rap" is old school top 40. It works for oldies. Jack Armstrong does schtick. He doesn't rhyme, but he does schtick. What about Jack?

There's only ONE music jock in all of NE OH who entertains even close to what Scott, and that's KISS's Kasper. Kasper is really, really good. Yet, he still needs bits. That's top 40 radio.

Do you recall "The Real" Bob James at WGAR? He did schtick. Bits, characters, etc. Did he need to? No. He was good anyway. The format called for it.

Scott wasn't over the top with it. He didn't puke his delivery. It was stylized for the 90s, and it worked.

Scott was/is Show Biz. He entertained. Scott's style is certainly better than most jocks who rely on audio drops or bits. It was all personality. I appreciated his style, and respected him for his prep. He never flubbed his "rhymes". And the things he would rhyme...would amaze me. No dictionary or anything. Years of honing his craft.

I love the SOJ, and I know it's a non-comm, but it could use at least one old skool "personality". It would spice it up...needs some "show biz".
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by bigwoody on 01/22/06 02:07 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> So? What's NYC got to do with it? We're talkin' Cleveland.
> Lanigan bombed in Tampa. Is he a failure? Is his "schtick"
> tired? According to ratings/revenue/cume over the last 33
> years (WGAR-AM, WMJI) I'd say...No!

Uh no the thread was Scott going to Chicago. Chicago is a
a different market than Cleveland, and what works here might
not work there. I quit listening to Scott after awhile because
I got tired of it. All of Scott's other fine qualities couldn't
keep me. And if not me, how many others?
John Lanigan is a talented man, and as you say he didn't work
out in Tampa. John is a Cleveland thing. I don't listen to John
and Jimmy all that much because as much as I like to laugh, I
would rather hear music as I drive.
Now mind you I am not knocking Scott or John. I have met Scott
only once and he was nice and John, I have met several times
and he has always been kind and polite.
>
> Don't knock "schtick". It made lots of people; Milton Berle,
> Elvis, Howard Stern, Gary Dee, Rick Dees, Allan Freed, and
> the list goes on and on.
>
Schtick is fine but you cant do the SAME schtick all the time
forever. All the people named above grew, changed and modified
as time went on.

Mike Dane
WSTB-FM 88.9
SundayOldiesJukebox.com
 
> That's true, he doesn't need to. Which makes him all the
> more talented. He was at WZJM in the 80s, 10 years total,
> five as PD. Also at ZIP 106 and stints in Baltimore at Top
> 40 stations. His "rap" is old school top 40. It works for
> oldies. Jack Armstrong does schtick. He doesn't rhyme, but
> he does schtick. What about Jack?

Everyone has their own schtick, but like I said earlier, you
can't do the samething forever.

> There's only ONE music jock in all of NE OH who entertains
> even close to what Scott, and that's KISS's Kasper. Kasper
> is really, really good. Yet, he still needs bits. That's top
> 40 radio.

I dont listen to WAKS, what little I've heard has made me want
to puke.

>
> Do you recall "The Real" Bob James at WGAR? He did schtick.
> Bits, characters, etc. Did he need to? No. He was good
> anyway. The format called for it.

yes I remember Bob. I have some reels somewhere here of him.
What you forget is the Bob didn't do the same jokes, bits,
drop ins and routines day after day, week after week.

>
> Scott wasn't over the top with it. He didn't puke his
> delivery. It was stylized for the 90s, and it worked.

I disagree. After awhile I found it annoying.

>
> Scott was/is Show Biz. He entertained. Scott's style is
> certainly better than most jocks who rely on audio drops or
> bits. It was all personality. I appreciated his style, and
> respected him for his prep. He never flubbed his "rhymes".
> And the things he would rhyme...would amaze me. No
> dictionary or anything. Years of honing his craft.

The idea is to entertain, after awhile he wasn't entertaining
to me. Sorry but that's the way it was.
>
> I love the SOJ, and I know it's a non-comm, but it could use
> at least one old skool "personality". It would spice it
> up...needs some "show biz".
>
I won't disagree, but it's not my call. Joey Carr was our high
energy Doo Wop guy and to be honest I loved listening to him.

Mike Dane
WSTB-FM 88.9
SundayOldiesJukebox.com
 
SOJ

>
> I love the SOJ, and I know it's a non-comm, but it could use
> at least one old skool "personality". It would spice it
> up...needs some "show biz".
>

I would think the SOJ is all about the music. Perhaps those who really enjoy the music of this era would prefer 60 minutes of music an hour, instead of 50 minutes + 10 minutes of "personality" radio that they can get at dozens of commercial stations. Basically, I find the "real people" djs rather refreshing.
 
I wonder if Scott (and perhaps his schtick) would not play well in other markets? It seems that sometimes talent just doesn't relocate well, especially later in their career. I believe even Lanigan failed in Florida (or am I recollecting wrong?). Scott may not have a sophisticated enough sound for Chicago, or sophisticated enough for what Chicago PD's expect and think they need.




> > That's true, he doesn't need to. Which makes him all the
> > more talented. He was at WZJM in the 80s, 10 years total,
> > five as PD. Also at ZIP 106 and stints in Baltimore at Top
>
> > 40 stations. His "rap" is old school top 40. It works for
> > oldies. Jack Armstrong does schtick. He doesn't rhyme, but
>
> > he does schtick. What about Jack?
>
> Everyone has their own schtick, but like I said earlier, you
>
> can't do the samething forever.
>
> > There's only ONE music jock in all of NE OH who entertains
>
> > even close to what Scott, and that's KISS's Kasper. Kasper
>
> > is really, really good. Yet, he still needs bits. That's
> top
> > 40 radio.
>
> I dont listen to WAKS, what little I've heard has made me
> want
> to puke.
>
> >
> > Do you recall "The Real" Bob James at WGAR? He did
> schtick.
> > Bits, characters, etc. Did he need to? No. He was good
> > anyway. The format called for it.
>
> yes I remember Bob. I have some reels somewhere here of him.
>
> What you forget is the Bob didn't do the same jokes, bits,
> drop ins and routines day after day, week after week.
>
> >
> > Scott wasn't over the top with it. He didn't puke his
> > delivery. It was stylized for the 90s, and it worked.
>
> I disagree. After awhile I found it annoying.
>
> >
> > Scott was/is Show Biz. He entertained. Scott's style is
> > certainly better than most jocks who rely on audio drops
> or
> > bits. It was all personality. I appreciated his style, and
>
> > respected him for his prep. He never flubbed his "rhymes".
>
> > And the things he would rhyme...would amaze me. No
> > dictionary or anything. Years of honing his craft.
>
> The idea is to entertain, after awhile he wasn't
> entertaining
> to me. Sorry but that's the way it was.
> >
> > I love the SOJ, and I know it's a non-comm, but it could
> use
> > at least one old skool "personality". It would spice it
> > up...needs some "show biz".
> >
> I won't disagree, but it's not my call. Joey Carr was our
> high
> energy Doo Wop guy and to be honest I loved listening to
> him.
>
> Mike Dane
> WSTB-FM 88.9
> SundayOldiesJukebox.com
>
 
> (WGAR-AM, WMJI) I'd say...No!
> >
>
> Lest we forget the "Prize Movie"!
>


Had a good 15 year run, and he got paid!
 
Re: SOJ

> >
> > I love the SOJ, and I know it's a non-comm, but it could
> use
> > at least one old skool "personality". It would spice it
> > up...needs some "show biz".
> >
>
> I would think the SOJ is all about the music. Perhaps those
> who really enjoy the music of this era would prefer 60
> minutes of music an hour, instead of 50 minutes + 10 minutes
> of "personality" radio that they can get at dozens of
> commercial stations. Basically, I find the "real people"
> djs rather refreshing.
>


CAN YOU get 10 minutes of personality radio, outside of AM drive, at any Cleveland station? I say no, save for one - Kasper. That doesn't say much for Cleveland radio in that there's only one personality outside of AM drive that can entertain. And I'm not going to pick on Cleveland. Other markets, most markets, around the country, are the same. In fact, real personality radio is still being done in smaller markets, less risk. TALK radio is the only true personality radio left. Where success/failure is determined by the host's ability to engage the listener with content.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by bigwoody on 01/24/06 07:19 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> I wonder if Scott (and perhaps his schtick) would not play
> well in other markets? It seems that sometimes talent just
> doesn't relocate well, especially later in their career. I
> believe even Lanigan failed in Florida (or am I recollecting
> wrong?). Scott may not have a sophisticated enough sound
> for Chicago, or sophisticated enough for what Chicago PD's
> expect and think they need.
>

Perhaps. Good points, that I touched on in an earlier post (r: Lanigan). Perhaps ABC wants a different approach with WZZN. I don't know.

Let me re-state that I love the SOJ, Uncle Bill, Michael, Guy, etc's work and committment to what they're doing. It's truly great! I'm happy to be associated with the aforementioned, whether sharing music, or voicing ID's (hopefully Bill uses them). Ive got a few more to produce that, hopefully, will really stand out and give some flash. (Thank you Ken R!).
 
> > So? What's NYC got to do with it? We're talkin' Cleveland.
>
> > Lanigan bombed in Tampa. Is he a failure? Is his "schtick"
>
> > tired? According to ratings/revenue/cume over the last 33
> > years (WGAR-AM, WMJI) I'd say...No!
>
> Uh no the thread was Scott going to Chicago. Chicago is a
> a different market than Cleveland, and what works here might
>
> not work there. I quit listening to Scott after awhile
> because
> I got tired of it. All of Scott's other fine qualities
> couldn't
> keep me. And if not me, how many others?
> John Lanigan is a talented man, and as you say he didn't
> work
> out in Tampa. John is a Cleveland thing. I don't listen to
> John
> and Jimmy all that much because as much as I like to laugh,
> I
> would rather hear music as I drive.
> Now mind you I am not knocking Scott or John. I have met
> Scott
> only once and he was nice and John, I have met several times
>
> and he has always been kind and polite.
> >
> > Don't knock "schtick". It made lots of people; Milton
> Berle,
> > Elvis, Howard Stern, Gary Dee, Rick Dees, Allan Freed, and
>
> > the list goes on and on.
> >
> Schtick is fine but you cant do the SAME schtick all the
> time
> forever. All the people named above grew, changed and
> modified
> as time went on.
>
> Mike Dane
> WSTB-FM 88.9
> SundayOldiesJukebox.com
>

As a programmer, and one who's done oldies for over ten years at two heritage stations, I have a sound I like and prefer, which is not what is being done by most oldies programmers today with their AC/Oldies approach.

I love the debate. No one is completely wrong (or right, lol). Feel free to email me. Johnny Morgan and I have exchanged some good emails.
CM
 
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