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CHR alive and well in NEOH

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WAKS, WHOT, WAKZ and WZKL all posted pretty impressive gains for Spring/05 12+ in their respective markets.

The WAKZ/WHOT battle in Youngstown is interesting as well; the gap between the two is pretty slim. (One has 50,000 watts, the other 6,000; imagine if WAKZ was on the 98.9 or 93.3 frequency in Youngstown?)<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Tony Stark on 07/22/05 09:36 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> WAKS, WHOT, WAKZ and WZKL all posted pretty impressive gains
> for Spring/05 12+ in their respective markets.
>
> The WAKZ/WHOT battle in Youngstown is interesting as well;
> the gap between the two is pretty slim. (One has 50,000
> watts, the other 6,000; imagine if WAKZ was on the 98.9 or
> 93.3 frequency in Youngstown?)
>

Hmmm...that's interesting.
I doubt Clear Channel would move Mix 989, it's got BIG numbers...
But what about 93.3? Are they as big as they used to be?

Could we someday see a 959 NCD and a 933 Kiss-FM??
 
> WAKS, WHOT, WAKZ and WZKL all posted pretty impressive gains
> for Spring/05 12+ in their respective markets.
>
> The WAKZ/WHOT battle in Youngstown is interesting as well;
> the gap between the two is pretty slim. (One has 50,000
> watts, the other 6,000; imagine if WAKZ was on the 98.9 or
> 93.3 frequency in Youngstown?)

I would love to see how these two did in their key demos, 18-34 (at least I hope WHOT considers it their key demo LOL) and see if it's close where it counts.

Looking at the 12-plus numbers just for the hell, it did make me wonder by looking at some of the numbers: did the diaries for this book just happen to fall into younger hands? In Cleveland, WGAR, WENZ & WAKS all had very impressive gains (I throw in WGAR because of the artists someone related to previously). Meanwhile, the older demo stations took a dip: WDOK & WZAK. Plus, WZKL had good gains (and so did WHBC-FM, unfortunately). I also realize that CHR's usually do better in the warmer months here. Hey, we can all be conspiracy theorists at times, can't we? ;)

It's also nice to see WQAL makes some strides, too!

BTW...WHLO, welcome to the Cleveland market!! :)
 
Yeesh

> WAKS, WHOT, WAKZ and WZKL all posted pretty impressive gains for Spring/05 12+ in their respective markets."


I'm going to come off as bitter here, but I don't care... I fail to see why Hot 101 is regaining previously lost market share! It is most definitely NOT the station that it once was, is not as respected as it once was, and was rather weak, promotionally, this book... Kudos to Trout, I suppose, for whatever it is that he's done right the past two books, not that I can figure out what that is.


"The WAKZ/WHOT battle in Youngstown is interesting as well; the gap between the two is pretty slim. (One has 50,000 watts, the other 6,000; imagine if WAKZ was on the 98.9 or 93.3 frequency in Youngstown?)"


98.9 wouldn't happen... But I could see 93.3 being a possibility... WNCD's competition is WWIZ (Rock 104), which is on a weaker signal, the same as WAKZ. I think you could take the CD93.3 format to the smaller signal on 95.9 and still win against Rock 104. Then, you could put the KISS CHR format on the 50,000 watt 93.3 signal against the 24,500 watt (with height, equal to 50,000) signal of WHOT and have an all-out war between the two stations. Personally, and no, not just because I VT into WAKZ... I think WAKZ would win, with an equal signal strength.

Just my opinion.
<P ID="signature">______________
Aaron Tyler
Afternoons / MD
WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
www.kissfm927.com

Weekends / Swing
KSLZ / St. Louis
WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
</P>
 
> Could we someday see a 959 NCD and a 933 Kiss-FM??

It'd be the third home for 'NCD (from 106.1 to 93.3 to 95.9) and basically the second home for 'AKZ (if you count the "Beat" format on 101.9 before they landed at 95.9).

I can't help but think it'll happen. Look at what happened when CC Cleveland moved KISS FM from the 104.9 Lorain rimshot to basically a full-market signal on the 96.5 move-in. Perhaps the only thing preventing a similar move for KISS Youngstown is the established presence of the Wolf in the market, and the Youngstown market's older skewing demos. (What other market has two major operators doing standards?)

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
HOT Ratings

50,000 watts (24,500, I know...but they say 50,000) of dead-air "that's as clear as a bell" (to steal from an old Hot sweeper from years back) is on the air this morning. The last 45 mins or so.
Is that how they get those ratings?
And I thought there was a jock there on Saturday mornings? Kyle?




> CHR format on the 50,000 watt 93.3 signal against the 24,500
> watt (with height, equal to 50,000) signal of WHOT and have
> an all-out war between the two stations.


I also think WAKZ would win and would personally love to see this happen.
I suppose technically, 101.1 has the better signal. 24,500 watts @ 700-some feet. 93.3 is 50,000 watts at 270 feet (or something close to that)
But if you listen to both in the market, they are very similar, if not the same
 
Re: HOT Ratings

Right, I forgot to point out that HOT's tower height plays a factor in their wattage "fibbing"; but nonetheless their signal is superior to 'AKZ, which makes KISS's accomplishments ratings-wise pretty impressive. Not to mention their tower being in Sharpsville, PA.



> 50,000 watts (24,500, I know...but they say 50,000) of
> dead-air "that's as clear as a bell" (to steal from an old
> Hot sweeper from years back) is on the air this morning. The
> last 45 mins or so.
> Is that how they get those ratings?
> And I thought there was a jock there on Saturday mornings?
> Kyle?
>
>
>
>
> > CHR format on the 50,000 watt 93.3 signal against the
> 24,500
> > watt (with height, equal to 50,000) signal of WHOT and
> have
> > an all-out war between the two stations.
>
>
> I also think WAKZ would win and would personally love to see
> this happen.
> I suppose technically, 101.1 has the better signal. 24,500
> watts @ 700-some feet. 93.3 is 50,000 watts at 270 feet (or
> something close to that)
> But if you listen to both in the market, they are very
> similar, if not the same
>
 
> > Could we someday see a 959 NCD and a 933 Kiss-FM??

Perhaps. But I don't know if I'd count on it when 'NCD probably bills slightly higher than 'AKZ with their 25-54 target. Then again, you never know.

> It'd be the third home for 'NCD (from 106.1 to 93.3 to 95.9)
> and basically the second home for 'AKZ (if you count the
> "Beat" format on 101.9 before they landed at 95.9).

You can count that. For awhile, they were "95-9 The Beat" after moving from 101.9. (as RMcKenzie pointed out in another thread)
>
> I can't help but think it'll happen. Look at what happened
> when CC Cleveland moved KISS FM from the 104.9 Lorain
> rimshot to basically a full-market signal on the 96.5
> move-in. Perhaps the only thing preventing a similar move
> for KISS Youngstown is the established presence of the Wolf
> in the market, and the Youngstown market's older skewing
> demos. (What other market has two major operators doing
> standards?)
>
> -OA

"93-3 AKZ" anyone? (ala 'FLZ Tampa) Kidding, kidding! It sounds cool though! Interestingly enough, that's the moniker they're using for WNCD now - 93-3 NCD.
 
93-3 AKZ? I like that!
That could also do some damage to Q92 seeing as how Canton has its own 95.9. Thoughts on that?
 
Re: Yeesh

> 98.9 wouldn't happen... But I could see 93.3 being a
> possibility... WNCD's competition is WWIZ (Rock 104), which
> is on a weaker signal, the same as WAKZ. I think you could
> take the CD93.3 format to the smaller signal on 95.9 and
> still win against Rock 104. Then, you could put the KISS
> CHR format on the 50,000 watt 93.3 signal against the 24,500
> watt (with height, equal to 50,000) signal of WHOT and have
> an all-out war between the two stations. Personally, and
> no, not just because I VT into WAKZ... I think WAKZ would
> win, with an equal signal strength.
>
> Just my opinion.
>

I agree, with the larger signal I think kiss could beat hot. It is hard to believe that WNCD did so poorly, something definatly needs to be done.

On a related note, is WAKZ gonna ever get a new night jock or are they gonna continue to VT it?
 
> 93-3 AKZ? I like that!
> That could also do some damage to Q92 seeing as how Canton
> has its own 95.9. Thoughts on that?
>

You can't get WAKZ in Canton because of WNPQ, thus no damage to Q92 from KISS.
 
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