> Oh PLEASE... Helen Keller can see payola all over that
> document. Rate cards with payment for play? Not payola?
> Free laptops? Not payola? Threatening to yank payments for
> dumping their artists on the overnight? Not payola?
No I agree there is quite a bit of "PAYOLA"esque activities going on, but being comitted by a couple of people. ALOT of what you see in those documents is VAILD PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT, not Payola.
> That is nonsense. You don't have to fly to NY first class,
> with limo service, and top notch hotel accoms just to get a
> chance to sit in the guest section at a Celine concert. If
> you get free tickets, that's fine, but pay your own way,
> especially when there is documentation all over the place
> that getting such perks is dependent on you adding an artist
> to rotation or giving it spin support. The public is not
> going to be as forgiving as you suspect, especially when the
> documents show DJs getting first class treatment while
> actual listener prize winners get "cheap" transportation and
> bargain basement accomodations.
REALLY?!? You apparently are missing my definition of a "FLYAWAY," which is meant as a promotinal giveaway to a listener. In particular, the Celine flyaway I don't remember seeing anything about a programmer going on the trip. I do see plenty about doing flyaways for listeners, in exchange for an add. VALID PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT.
> You glossed over the freebie laptop, the personal CD player,
> the TVs, and cash payments that Sony staffers got approval
> to purchase, with company cards, to send to DJs in return
> for spin support. Nobody has a problem with free shoes or
> bars of soap, or candy, or stickers, or pens. Spitzer has a
> problem with items that are valued well above that.
No I pointed out a particular GREY situation, a plasma TV, laptop, etc. are payola, but I think a $150 walkman is digging a bit. That is merely a thanks for your help.
> There are some lousy artists whose excessive bought and paid
> for airplay has probably caused several suicides from
> despairing listeners, so the lives saved may be countless.
Spare me the political commentary, be factual, not a smart ass.
> Seriously, you could make the same argument about virtually
> any white collar crime - Enron ripoffs don't kill people,
> pump and dump schemes don't draw blood, insurance scams just
> lighten your wallet a little. It doesn't matter. When any
> industry is caught so egregiously violating the law (and
> Sony's $10 million quickie settlement is testament to just
> how seriously they took it), heads should roll. When the
> rest of the dust is settled (Universal, BMG, etc.), it will
> be very interesting to see just how much commercial radio in
> this country is about as upstanding as a Saturday night
> streetwalker.
It's funny you use the big word "egregiously" to make it sound worse than it is. Like I said above, about 80% of the documents presented are A) OLD AND OUTSIDE OF THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR THIS LAW VIOLATION B) VALID PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT INVOLVING THE LISTENERS NOT THE PROGRAMMERS BEING THE RECIEVER OF SAID GIFTS and finally C) ALOT LESS OF A THREAT THAN MANY PRACTICES OTHER INDUSTRIES ARE USING AND ABUSING.
Yes, there is violation of laws included in the documents, but they involve REALLY just three people, Diana Laird (KHTS/San Diego PD), Donnie Michaels (now WHYI/Miami APD) and Dave Universal (former WKSE/Buffalo PD). The rest of it was VALID and not by definition "PAYOLA." The "RATES" you're speaking of is merely budget discussion for record companies assisting stations with giveaways, but most of what they are discussing was from the days of indie promoters. Those guys gave money towards specific promotional items and events, again NOT PAYOLA. Besides INDIES charged more for specific stations, because of the difficulty that they had with some stations (more conservative Top 40s) in getting some records added. That's how they made money, not the stations the indies. They were merely salesmen, sent in to CLOSE the deal. It's like a radio rep taking a client to lunch to close a spot buy, and then throwing them "ADDED VALUE" to sweeten the deal. I have a client now that is buying time on my station for a concert, and I'm giving him an additional $30K in promos for his show since it is ours, is that play or plug-ola?? NO!!! Law is written in a technical form, in order to see where it was broken in these documents, you must READ BETWEEN THE LINES, it's not always black and white, there is alot of grey and green.