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CHR is getting too generalized... (idea from post below)

The Demo Stays The Same

> You would not play these old songs 30x a week, u would play
> "all the hits" and not "forget the hits." You would play
> Lit, not every day, maybe only once a week, but you would
> play other old songs as well. I say 2 songs an hour. It
> will bring more variety and ppl would want to stay longer on
> the radio instead of 2 hrs later the same playlist is being
> shot back at you, and listeners tune out.
CHR's are (supposed to be) programmed to be cume monsters. If listeners didn't want to hear their favorite song NOW, they wouldn't be turning over tunes every hour and 45-minutes (roughly). Listeners do not stick around that long.


> Sure some of
> those songs mentioned maybe HOT AC now, but then it was
> CHR/pop ....so why cannot still play them?
And Chicago and Richard Marx were huge CHR artists in the 80's and so was Michael Bolton in the 90's, so based on that theory, CHR's should still be playing them in gold??

The fact is, people get older, but a formats focus stays the same. CHR's core demo will always be what it is and same with Hot AC. But, with any format, songs no longer fit. Most 80's songs no longer fit on Hot AC's. And because music in the 90's was so fragmented, not everything that charted in the 90's fits on a CHR today. But, quite a bit of 90's hits do fit on HAC's today.


> Our audience is
> older cause we keept some of them from the 90s, and the
> young would appreciate it 2, if they hear it enough.
Not if it doesn't fit. From the 90's, the list isn't all that long when you really look at it.
 
All this gold...

But has anyone even asked the question, will it test?

I'm always so surprised to see songs that I think are a home run, put into the auditorium test and come back with scores lower then the Special Olympics! We see that more and more with dance titles, they just don't test!

Remember, is it gold, or a flashback Friday song?
 
Re: Wanna talk gold tracks...LETS GO WAAAAAAAAAAY BACK

not to plug my own station, but almost all those hits r in our classic archive. we play at least once an hour (usually toward the bottom of the hour), and our Old Skool @ Noon plays one full hour of classics of songs from before 1997. those r great song selection, heck, i grew up on most of them

http://www.arizonaspartystation.com

> > I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40 stations.
>
> >
> > I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're
> > forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is just
> > getting more and more generalized.
> >
> > What's happening to programming? The reason we have
> Program
> > Directors is to give stations their own unique sound. If
> I
> > could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of today's
> > hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in one of
>
> > these classics:
> >
> > Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
> > DJ Sanny - Heaven
> > En Vogue - Don't Let Go
> > Usher - You Make Me Wanna
> > Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
> > Rockell - In A Dream
> > Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
> > Darude - Sandstorm
> > Robyn - Show Me Love
> > Ginuwine - Pony
> > Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
> > LL Cool J - Father
> > Smash Mouth - All Star
> > TLC - No Scrubs
> > Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
> > Blaque - Like I Do
> > K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
> > Mase - Feel So Good
> > INOJ - Love You Down
> > Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for Overnights)
> >
> > In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an
> hour
> > would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I had a
> > chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at the
> > bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that way it
>
> > can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18 soon,
> and
> > hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my
> > start.
> >
> > Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play
> > "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but, I
> made
> > that list according to the market I'm in... find your
> niche
> > - what "sound" does it have?
> >
> > I know some stations are limited to what corporate wants
> > them to do... but, listening online to many stations -
> > they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about what
>
> > they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has changed a
> > LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it good.
>
> >
> Captain Hollywood Project-More and More/
> Firehouse-Dont treat me bad/
> Tone tone tone-If I
> had no loot/
> Jade-Dont walk Away
> Seal-Prayer for the dying
> Erasure-Always
>
> Sophie B hawkins-Damn I wish I was your lover
> Paula Abdule-Promise of a new day
> Nelson-After the Rain
>
> Maddona-RAIN
> Stereo MCs-Step it up
> Pm.Dawn-Looking
> through patient eyes
> Color me Badd-I wanna Sex you up
> George Micheal--Too Funky
> Snap-Rhythm is a
> dancer
> Tracey Spencer-this House
> Black box-Strike it up
> Tara Kemp-Hold you
> tight
> New Order-Regret
> Timmy T-One More Try
> Enigma-Sadness Part 2
>
> Tina Turner-I dont wanna Fight
> Ub40-Cant help falling in love with you
> Queensryche-silent
> lucidity
> Sunscreem-Love u More & Pressure Us
> Inner Circle-Sweat ala la la la long
> Oasis-Champaign
> supernova---Wonderwall--& Dont look back in anger
> Primitive Radio Gods--Standing outside a broken phone
> booth Dino-Ooh Child & I like it
> Bell Biv
> Devoe--Poison & Do me
> Bobby Brown-Humpin around
> 4 non blondes-Whats Up
> Janet
> Jackson FT Luther Vandrose-The Best things in life are free
> Ce Ce Peniston--Keep on walkin
> Edwyn Collins- A girl like
> you Lou
> Bega-Mambo number 5
> O.M.C--How Bizzare
> Okay, all you younger kids are
> looking at this list, and saying What the Crap is all
> this....Thats okay, because My station (WOULD) Lean toward a
> slightly older audience with a 90s and now type format, CHR
> not HOT AC. But very little repetition on the gold and
> guilty pleasures, thats why the playlist will be huge. All
> of you OLD MEN know these songs, because if im 24 and I know
> them............You know them too.........Dont LIE....
>
 
Re: Wanna talk gold tracks...LETS GO WAAAAAAAAAAY BACK

> not to plug my own station, but almost all those hits r in
> our classic archive. we play at least once an hour (usually
> toward the bottom of the hour), and our Old Skool @ Noon
> plays one full hour of classics of songs from before 1997.
> those r great song selection, heck, i grew up on most of
> them
>
> http://www.arizonaspartystation.com
> Hi, Sean, I actually tune into your station, from time to time....I bet they would really be loving your station on Long Island right about now.
> > > I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40
> stations.
> >
> > >
> > > I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're
> > > forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is just
> > > getting more and more generalized.
> > >
> > > What's happening to programming? The reason we have
> > Program
> > > Directors is to give stations their own unique sound.
> If
> > I
> > > could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of today's
>
> > > hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in one
> of
> >
> > > these classics:
> > >
> > > Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
> > > DJ Sanny - Heaven
> > > En Vogue - Don't Let Go
> > > Usher - You Make Me Wanna
> > > Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
> > > Rockell - In A Dream
> > > Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
> > > Darude - Sandstorm
> > > Robyn - Show Me Love
> > > Ginuwine - Pony
> > > Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
> > > LL Cool J - Father
> > > Smash Mouth - All Star
> > > TLC - No Scrubs
> > > Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
> > > Blaque - Like I Do
> > > K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
> > > Mase - Feel So Good
> > > INOJ - Love You Down
> > > Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for Overnights)
> > >
> > > In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an
> > hour
> > > would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I had
> a
> > > chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at the
>
> > > bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that way
> it
> >
> > > can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18 soon,
> > and
> > > hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my
> > > start.
> > >
> > > Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play
> > > "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but, I
> > made
> > > that list according to the market I'm in... find your
> > niche
> > > - what "sound" does it have?
> > >
> > > I know some stations are limited to what corporate wants
>
> > > them to do... but, listening online to many stations -
> > > they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about
> what
> >
> > > they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has changed
> a
> > > LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it
> good.
> >
> > >
> > Captain Hollywood Project-More and More/
>
> > Firehouse-Dont treat me bad/
>
> > Tone tone tone-If I
> > had no loot/
>
> > Jade-Dont walk Away
>
> > Seal-Prayer for the dying
>
> > Erasure-Always
>
> >
> > Sophie B hawkins-Damn I wish I was your lover
>
> > Paula Abdule-Promise of a new day
>
> > Nelson-After the
> Rain
> >
> > Maddona-RAIN
>
> > Stereo MCs-Step it up
>
> > Pm.Dawn-Looking
> > through patient eyes
>
> > Color me Badd-I wanna Sex you up
>
> > George Micheal--Too Funky
>
> > Snap-Rhythm is a
> > dancer
>
> > Tracey Spencer-this House
>
> > Black box-Strike it up
>
> > Tara Kemp-Hold you
>
> > tight
>
> > New Order-Regret
>
> > Timmy T-One More Try
>
> > Enigma-Sadness Part
> 2
> >
> > Tina Turner-I dont wanna Fight
>
> > Ub40-Cant help falling in love with you
>
> > Queensryche-silent
> > lucidity
>
> > Sunscreem-Love u More & Pressure Us
>
> > Inner Circle-Sweat ala la la la long
>
> > Oasis-Champaign
> > supernova---Wonderwall--& Dont look back in anger
>
> > Primitive Radio Gods--Standing outside a broken phone
> > booth Dino-Ooh Child & I like it
>
> > Bell Biv
> > Devoe--Poison & Do me
>
> > Bobby Brown-Humpin around
>
> > 4 non blondes-Whats Up
>
> > Janet
> > Jackson FT Luther Vandrose-The Best things in life are
> free
> > Ce Ce Peniston--Keep on walkin
>
> > Edwyn Collins- A girl like
>
> > you Lou
> > Bega-Mambo number 5
>
> > O.M.C--How Bizzare
>
> > Okay, all you younger kids
> are
> > looking at this list, and saying What the Crap is all
> > this....Thats okay, because My station (WOULD) Lean toward
> a
> > slightly older audience with a 90s and now type format,
> CHR
> > not HOT AC. But very little repetition on the gold and
> > guilty pleasures, thats why the playlist will be huge.
> All
> > of you OLD MEN know these songs, because if im 24 and I
> know
> > them............You know them too.........Dont LIE....
> >
>
 
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