Christian station KVTT signing off after 34 years

[LibertyNT]

As Of 12:00 Pm KGVL was off the air.
This SUCKS. 1400 was a good Classic Country Station.
Upon Further Review. There is SOMETHING on 1400 but appears to be wekaer than KGVL was.
Could be KGVL on Reduced Power.

 

[dantheman]

Re: KGVL 1400 AM Greenville, TX signing off Temp.

Hello All, I reseached more on the phone. TXchip you are right. PD at KGVL/KIKT said sale was delayed. He said they are still planning on being back on the air after 180 days. That is both stations KGVL 1400AM and KIKT 93.5. He do not know if they are planning to kill KIKT signal yet. They are getting some ad money to the KIKT FM side. PD said Northeast TX Greenville/Hunt County needs its local radio stations to be on the air. They are working with Greenville High School to plan how to broadcast Greenville Lion football this school year. I hate this informaton KGVL 1400 has a long history in Greenville/Hunt County and Northeast TX. A lot of people started in radio at KGVL like Russ Martin, Pete Stein, and a lot of others. I hope some group will buy the station group and soon.

Dan the MAN!!!
The North Texas RADIO MAN!!!

 

[LibertyNT]

KGVL Confirmed Running at Low-Power. 500 watts maybe?

 

[txchipk]

Re: KGVL 1400 AM Greenville, TX signing off Temp.

Hello All, I reseached more on the phone. TXchip you are right. PD at KGVL/KIKT said sale was delayed. He said they are still planning on being back on the air after 180 days. That is both stations KGVL 1400AM and KIKT 93.5. He do not know if they are planning to kill KIKT signal yet. They are getting some ad money to the KIKT FM side. PD said Northeast TX Greenville/Hunt County needs its local radio stations to be on the air. They are working with Greenville High School to plan how to broadcast Greenville Lion football this school year. I hate this informaton KGVL 1400 has a long history in Greenville/Hunt County and Northeast TX. A lot of people started in radio at KGVL like Russ Martin, Pete Stein, and a lot of others. I hope some group will buy the station group and soon.

Dan the MAN!!!
The North Texas RADIO MAN!!!

I'm guessing once it goes off, KIKT (which is still on today) will not return with the Greenville-licensed facilities.

Dating back more than 10 years ago when Susquehana had the pair (before Cumulus bought Susquehana), KIKT has a CP to move northeast to Cooper (removing first adjacency issues with KLIF-FM 93.3 and KNOR 93.7). It still will provide some coverage to Greenville, but it technically won't be a city grade signal: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1346375.html.

The FCC has recently scolded Cumulus for not building out the facility since it is one move blocking KNOR from upgrading from a C1 to a C0 to increase some coverage to Dallas.
http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getimportletter_exh.cgi?import_letter_id=18560
In the FCC's eyes, the foot dragging has gone on long enough that in this action, the FCC removed KIKT's move as a restriction on KNOR's upgrade (in other words...once the other pre-requisites are done such as KLXK 93.5 Breckenridge's C2-to-C3 downgrade, KNOR can upgrade whether or not KIKT has moved). Basically, the Cooper CP is so old, the Greenville facility is now considered an STA and has no interference protection wrt to KNOR's upgraded facilities.

It looks like from the letter attached to the request to take KGVL and KIKT silent...
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101386198&qnum=5000&copynum=1&exhcnum=1
...they will attempt to build out the Cooper CP. In the letter, because the former buyers (KGVL Radio) decided to no longer pursue closing the purchase, "Susquehanna [Cumulus] does not have the resources in place to continue operation of either station. Beyond that, Susquehanna would like to preserve its limited resources for use in the relocation of KIKT to Cooper, Texas. It does not make sense from a business or a public interest perspective for Susquehanna to expend those limited resources in
trying to restore service for KIKT in Greenville when the station has to be relocated to Cooper,
Texas.
Susquehanna is in the process of reviewing the situation to determine how and when it
can implement the relocation of KIKT to Cooper and restore service for KIKT and KGVL. In
the meantime, Susquehanna has no choice but to temporarily discontinue on-air operations of
both stations."

 

[jd]

Chip, much of what you said has been mentioned before. The move of KIKT to Cooper, however, was intended to provide a little more of a margin for the 93.3 signal (now KLIF-FM). The issue with KNOR's plans to upgrade came up later. It's no wonder the FCC admonished Susquehanna and Cumulus for not building it out. There's simply no excuse for them not doing it years ago. And taking both KIKT and KGVL silent at this point is shameful.

Incidentally, the KLXK Breckenridge downgrade has happened, clearing the way for KNOR to upgrade from a Class C1 (15.5kW) to a C0 (43kW) at the same HAAT, 1968 feet.

Here's KNOW's present "service area" contour: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1161921.html
And here's the contour after the upgrade: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1280362.html

 

[MikeShannon914]

And to think, KNOR (K-Snore) was a tiny station in Healdton, OK worth pennies on the dollar before they muscled into the DFW fringe. Originally, KNOR was forced off their former 105.7 frequency to make room for KRNB-105.7 (originally KSTV-Stephenville) to move into the DFW fringe back in 1996. (And funny to think that the still-used KNOR calls originally stood for N)O)R)man, Oklahoma.)

And the whole purpose for Susquehanna purchasing KIKT was to downgrade it and make room for 93.3 to be a fresh start-up in Haltom City (as the long-lost, long-lamented Zone) after forcing St Mark's KRSM off the dial (then again, why was a non-com located at 93.3, anyway?) Then again, we're talking 1996, when all the corporate foolishness and clowning on the dial began. : Serving Greenville was obviously the last thing on Susquehanna's mind. Or Cumulus's.

BTW, anyone been to Cooper? Not the size of town you'd expect to be served by a radio station (pop. 3374) that's within large-market listening range. Then again, Ollie's Bait Shop and Insurance might want some 'dollar-a-holler' spots. Same for Akbazza's Gas-It-And-Git, and possibly Drew's Cre-Mel.

Or Cumulus can make things easy and just donate it back to Frank Janda. God knows he worked his butt off (and a finger or two) trying to keep that place afloat LONG before his brief ownership. And poor KGVL, that station's been around since 1946. When Alpha and Beta Horn "bought" the pair of stations last year, they paid $600,000. Wonder what they could be had for now.

 

[txchipk]

And to think, KNOR (K-Snore) was a tiny station in Healdton, OK worth pennies on the dollar before they muscled into the DFW fringe. Originally, KNOR was forced off their former 105.7 frequency to make room for KRNB-105.7 (originally KSTV-Stephenville) to move into the DFW fringe back in 1996. (And funny to think that the still-used KNOR calls originally stood for N)O)R)man, Oklahoma.)

The station was originally a class A on 105.5 in Healdton...it was AC KTYX "Tix 105" until the late '80s when it upgraded to 105.7C2 and became country KICM (calls for "Keepin' It Country Music").

As you noted, KICM went from 105.7C2 to 93.7C2 in 1996 to make way for the future KRNB.

KNOR 97.7 Pauls Valley OK (previously KGOK) moved from 97.7A Pauls Valley to 97.7C3 Healdton. The intellectual property of the KICM calls and format went to that new facility; the 93.7 facility got the KNOR calls and then moved from Healdton to Krum as a D/FW rimshot.

And the whole purpose for Susquehanna purchasing KIKT was to downgrade it and make room for 93.3 to be a fresh start-up in Haltom City (as the long-lost, long-lamented Zone) after forcing St Mark's KRSM off the dial (then again, why was a non-com located at 93.3, anyway?) Then again, we're talking 1996, when all the corporate foolishness and clowning on the dial began. : Serving Greenville was obviously the last thing on Susquehanna's mind. Or Cumulus's.

Not quite...the 93.3 allocation pre-dated 1996. The original application for what became the CP for 93.3C2 Haltom City was accepted for filing at the FCC 5/24/1990. KRSM was a class D...class D FMs before 1996 and after 1996 are not considered full facilities and, like FM translators, have no protection against full service FM facilities. Recall it was originally at 88.5, but had to find a vacant facility due to KEOM's upgrade from 88.3 to 88.5 (again, as a D, it had to make way for KEOM).

 

[charles123]

And to think, KNOR (K-Snore) was a tiny station in Healdton, OK worth pennies on the dollar before they muscled into the DFW fringe. Originally, KNOR was forced off their former 105.7 frequency to make room for KRNB-105.7 (originally KSTV-Stephenville) to move into the DFW fringe back in 1996. (And funny to think that the still-used KNOR calls originally stood for N)O)R)man, Oklahoma.)

The station was originally a class A on 105.5 in Healdton...it was AC KTYX "Tix 105" until the late '80s when it upgraded to 105.7C2 and became country KICM (calls for "Keepin' It Country Music").

As you noted, KICM went from 105.7C2 to 93.7C2 in 1996 to make way for the future KRNB.

KNOR 97.7 Pauls Valley OK (previously KGOK) moved from 97.7A Pauls Valley to 97.7C3 Healdton. The intellectual property of the KICM calls and format went to that new facility; the 93.7 facility got the KNOR calls and then moved from Healdton to Krum as a D/FW rimshot.

And the whole purpose for Susquehanna purchasing KIKT was to downgrade it and make room for 93.3 to be a fresh start-up in Haltom City (as the long-lost, long-lamented Zone) after forcing St Mark's KRSM off the dial (then again, why was a non-com located at 93.3, anyway?) Then again, we're talking 1996, when all the corporate foolishness and clowning on the dial began. : Serving Greenville was obviously the last thing on Susquehanna's mind. Or Cumulus's.

Not quite...the 93.3 allocation pre-dated 1996. The original application for what became the CP for 93.3C2 Haltom City was accepted for filing at the FCC 5/24/1990. KRSM was a class D...class D FMs before 1996 and after 1996 are not considered full facilities and, like FM translators, have no protection against full service FM facilities. Recall it was originally at 88.5, but had to find a vacant facility due to KEOM's upgrade from 88.3 to 88.5 (again, as a D, it had to make way for KEOM).

KNOR is 93.7-Dallas also