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Chrome 93.5 Tulsa
- Thread starter In_Tulsa
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93.5 is KQLL's translator, is authorized to provide fill in service for 106.1. Decoding their HD-2 signal and feeding it to their translator to create a new analog voice in the market and is quite a stretch in the rules. Especially when they brand the HD-2 signal with the frequency of the translator.
Before, the Commission frowned upon translators being used to originate programming. This comes damn close. Retransmitting KQLL's hd signal would be fine. Splitting off it's digital only programming and rebroadcasting it in analog is another matter.
Yes, it rocks. No commercials. No local content.
Rock on.
Before, the Commission frowned upon translators being used to originate programming. This comes damn close. Retransmitting KQLL's hd signal would be fine. Splitting off it's digital only programming and rebroadcasting it in analog is another matter.
Yes, it rocks. No commercials. No local content.
Rock on.
stacker said:
The FCC has allowed it. Cumulus started it when it used a FM translator in Harrisburg PA (W237DE 95.3) to relay their urban AC AM station there. They later changed the AM station to sports. To keep the new "95.3 the Touch" on the air, WNNK 104.1HD2 became the "originator" for the format.
Since then, others, particularly group owner Saga, have launched HD2 formats to relay on analog FM translators in the market.
In the Asheville NC market, Saga's WOXL 96.5HD2's AAA format is relayed via translator W251AO 98.1 as "98.1 the River"
In Ithaca NY, Saga's WYXL 97.3HD2 launched a top 40 format called "Hits 103.3," carried on W277BS 103.3 there
In Keene NH, Saga also changed W281AU 104.1 from a relay of their AM to a simulcast of WKNE 103.7HD2's new "Keene Classics 104.1." And W276CB 103.1 there became "Kool 103.1" off WKNE 103.7HD3.
In Manchester/Concord NH, the W231BR 94.1 and W276BJ 103.1 translators were recently flipped to a top 40 format "Hits Now" off WZID 95.7HD2.
Saga also now has translators in several other small markets -- K283AG 104.5 Sioux City, K298AV 107.5 Jonesboro, W298AP 107.5 Springfield IL -- that no doubt could follow a similar path.
WAMU 88.5 Washington DC's HD bluegrass subchannel has been on a translator near Dulles as well in recent months.
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JournalGuy
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I just dialed it up when I saw this post. Hard to get in Owasso. Driving around Tulsa, it was okay. Never will be a factor. My main observation is that the music on 93.5 is better than 106.1
I like KRVT as well.
I like KRVT as well.
In_Tulsa said:
Chrome is the HD2 that CC had available online for awhile. It sounded like the original 106.1, with 50s and 60s music, primarily. I agree with your idea, but I think CC (and others as well) have moved to the 'classic hits' model of 70s, and 80s music, albeit with a smaller than desired playlist. I second your suggest, along with changing the calls of KQLL to KAKC and bringing back the Drake jingles and maybe even a former KAKC personality (maybe even one out of retirement - et tu, Mr. Seagraves?).
Nahh... They won't bother to do something like THAT. Too creative, and costs more than a 100 dollars a year to program. Plus, only "old people" listen to 50s and 60s. Regardless of any realities agencies and corporate radio groups believe Oldies to only attract old people. The last time I checked they were the ones with the most expendable cash, but what do I know... LOL! I'm just glad to see they put SOMETHING worthwhile on their little translator stick. Ahhh... a bright spot on the dial. 
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Radio55
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I could barely pick it up at home, but will try in the car later. My thought on oldies is that it is a "pre-sold" format, similar to sports. You direct sell the clients, who will always ask what your format is, you say "oldies" and they instantly know what you are doing (just what the heck is "active rock" anyway?). You can sell sports, people know what they're buying; you can/could sell oldies, same thing, same result. And I don't get it either; I see a lot of people in their 50's driving $80,000 cars. Sounds like a good market to me. Just thinking out loud, here.
The music selections are pretty good but it's jockless, stopset-less, and it seems pretty sterile to my ears. About the only personality I've heard is an occasional classic commercial jingle, but I assume those will burn at some point. Some people will obviously like the oldies iPod, but my bet is that without local information (weather, news, traffic, events, contests, etc.) the songs will begin to sound like we've been hearing them for 50 years (which we have) & the excitement will fade just like the signal does outside Tulsa city limits.
Now, put this on 106.1, put some personalities talking about T-Town (yes, voicetracked out of towners would be tolerable), & I think you'd have a winner. You'll never get the national sales because they looking for 25-44 yr old females, but locally you ought to be able to mop up advertisers who will already be listening...
Now, put this on 106.1, put some personalities talking about T-Town (yes, voicetracked out of towners would be tolerable), & I think you'd have a winner. You'll never get the national sales because they looking for 25-44 yr old females, but locally you ought to be able to mop up advertisers who will already be listening...
Methinks Kevan Seal had something to do with this...
But I think CC is on to something. KTSO also has a translator at 94.5. I would love to see them throw on a AAA format there.
But I think CC is on to something. KTSO also has a translator at 94.5. I would love to see them throw on a AAA format there.
stacker said:
http://www.pams.com/
Otherwise I have no idea.
The last time I remember hearing the Johnny Mann Singers jingles on KAKC was in the mid 70's during the Holidays when they pulled out the classic "Have a Happy New Year with KAKC" ones. I taped them on a cheap tape recorder back then.
Radio55 said:
I don't work in radio; I only took a few marketing classes in college. It seemed like pretty much every research activity on advertising vs. age seemed to find the same conclusions: As most people age, they tend to become pretty brand loyal, less swayed by advertising, etc. It is not that some people over 55 don't have attractive incomes; it is getting them persuaded to dump a brand they have been using for years is a lot more difficult than getting someone in their 20s to do it, since that group often is less brand loyal. So, I imagine for radio purposes, if you can run fewer ads on a station targeting younger people and get better results, that station is going to be more attractive for your ad dollars. Thus, stations targeting older listeners is going to have to discount their rates to make up for the need of advertisers to have many more ad impressions on those outlets to get the same results.
I assume oldies has a perception issue with advertisers as well. Like you said, when you say "oldies," people know what they are getting, which is why most oldies stations have eliminated the use of the word "oldies" on the air in favor of "greatest hits," etc. The image of people nostalgic for only familiar and comfortable songs from 40-50 years ago, with familiar jingles, etc. doesn't exactly create an image of an audience eager to break free of products they grew up with in favor of brand new competitors, etc.
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theradiokid
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Is there a website for this station? Better yet, is there a stream? Curious minds want to know.
--The Radio Kid
(Oswego, NY.)
My email: [email protected].
--The Radio Kid
(Oswego, NY.)
My email: [email protected].
A posting on another site suggested they were working on a website for the station, but I don't find anything yet.
As far as listening online, http://www.kooltulsa.com/cc-common/hdradio/ is as close as you're going to get.
The "Real Oldies" feed is what they use, the only difference between that stream & the one over the air is an occasional sweeper saying "Chrome 93.5." Otherwise, it's identical: no local jocks, no local spots, no local content of any kind.
As far as listening online, http://www.kooltulsa.com/cc-common/hdradio/ is as close as you're going to get.
The "Real Oldies" feed is what they use, the only difference between that stream & the one over the air is an occasional sweeper saying "Chrome 93.5." Otherwise, it's identical: no local jocks, no local spots, no local content of any kind.
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theradiokid
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