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CHUCK HARDER SELLS 660 CP

WNFS, White Springs, 660am with 50kw days and 250 nights for $10,000. The cp expires friday (4/24). The buyer is requesting an 18 month extension. The facility will have 7 towers ! Cost of construction would be astronomical.
 
Poor Chuck.

First he had the scheme to buy up and then simulcast all the 810 AM's across the south, then his three facilities in White Springs (his I-10 corridor radio), Jacksonville (Hilliard), and Tampa (Gibsonia, his weakest facility with only 2500 daytime on 700). If he wasn't so sick, he'd be trying to find a way to get WARM back on the air...

The last true believer in large market AM....
 
JON BRUCE said:
WNFS, White Springs, 660am with 50kw days and 250 nights for $10,000. The cp expires friday (4/24). The buyer is requesting an 18 month extension. The facility will have 7 towers ! Cost of construction would be astronomical.

50,000 watts on 660, 7 towers, and it will barely hit Gainesville! The 660 in Altamonte Springs (Orlando) prohibits WNFS from having any viable signal to the south.

Yes, it will be heard in Jacksonville and Tallahassee. But will be impossible to sell in either of those markets.
 
JON BRUCE said:
WNFS, White Springs, 660am with 50kw days and 250 nights for $10,000. The cp expires friday (4/24). The buyer is requesting an 18 month extension. The facility will have 7 towers ! Cost of construction would be astronomical.

The original asking price for that CP was in the millions... Most recently the price had dropped to $250,000... Now he let it go for only $10k?

Mark Tillery
[email protected]
 
MN Maniac said:
JON BRUCE said:
WNFS, White Springs, 660am with 50kw days and 250 nights for $10,000. The cp expires friday (4/24). The buyer is requesting an 18 month extension. The facility will have 7 towers ! Cost of construction would be astronomical.

50,000 watts on 660, 7 towers, and it will barely hit Gainesville! The 660 in Altamonte Springs (Orlando) prohibits WNFS from having any viable signal to the south.

Yes, it will be heard in Jacksonville and Tallahassee. But will be impossible to sell in either of those markets.

OR: the new owners could re-engineer the station with, shall we say a little less ambitious power, pattern, and number of towers, and end up with a nice 5-10kw radio station covering the I-10/I-75 junction, Live Oak, Jasper, Lake City area. I never heard of Chuck Harder, and dont know A Wray Fitch other than by reputation, but I doubt Fitch would realisticly view this station as a winner in Jax, Tallahassee, or Gainseville markets, expecially with the weak signal that would be put there, even at 50kw. I think this guy just got himself potentially a nice radio station for only 10 grand!
 
jmtillery said:
JON BRUCE said:
WNFS, White Springs, 660am with 50kw days and 250 nights for $10,000. The cp expires friday (4/24). The buyer is requesting an 18 month extension. The facility will have 7 towers ! Cost of construction would be astronomical.

The original asking price for that CP was in the millions... Most recently the price had dropped to $250,000... Now he let it go for only $10k?

Mark Tillery
[email protected]

It was going to expire Friday. Better something than nothing...

Harder's grand scheme was a station that could be heard FROM Jacksonville to Pensacola. A Driving station like the old 910 in Valdosta, specifically targeted for in-car listening...unfortunately, Sirius and XM took that niche -- for now...
 
Not sure if 660 will make it all the way to Pensacola (?) It's possible on a car radio. When I drove from Gainesville to Biloxi, I was able to get WOKV-690 to about midway between Tallahassee and Pensacola before it started to take on interference from New Orleans.

In any case, it will be interesting to see if this 7-tower monster ever makes it onto the air.
 
When I lived in Orange Park you could hear WNBC clear at night, so I bet Mr. Harder would get a certificate of some kind from WNBC to stay off their frequency at night on 660 I'll bet. Didn't he used to be on a station in Live Oak? I used to listen to For The People on that station at 1150kc I think. You know I'll bet those seven towers would make it real loud. I hope they play oldies on it when they build it. That guy sure got a bargain all right. I hope he gets it on the air soon so I can hear it when I visit my Uncle who lives in Deltona.
 
The AM station in Live Oak is WQHL-AM 1250 which operates with 1kw-D and under 100 watts at night. The new 660 White Springs is only authorized to operate with 250 watts using seven towers during night-time operation, so the night signal will hardly make a dent on the WFAN-AM 660 New York night-time signal. Also considering that White Springs is outside the 750-miles minimum distance for Class A AM co-channels, WNFS White Springs will be fine operating with 50,000 watts daytime and 250 watts night-time. In fact, WNFS should be able to get a night-time power increase to at least 1kw, possibly with fewer towers.

Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
[email protected]
 
Parttimer said:
Doesn't WORL on 660 in Orlando present a problem for anything more than 250 at night?

I don't think so... WORL has a critical directional day and night antenna pattern, using three towers; while WNFS calls for seven towers day and night with an East/West antenna pattern. WNFS should be fine to increase night service to 1kw, however, I highly doubt anything more than 1,000 watts nighttime can be achieved...

Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
[email protected]
 
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