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CHUNKY (AKA BIG BOY) IS BACK ON THE AIR IN DETROIT
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ericdxx
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we all want to forget about chunky. too bad someone on this board keeps bringing him up.
People who don't understand what Chunky is doing don't know how to connect with today's CHR listeners. MOst of the people here seem to like the Mo Bounce way of doing things.
"I'm blahblahblah on today's hit music station blahblahblah with your chance to win tickets to (insert concert here) coming up after blahblahblah on Z-100"
Great radio. By the way, Chunky beats Z in women 18-34 at night.
"I'm blahblahblah on today's hit music station blahblahblah with your chance to win tickets to (insert concert here) coming up after blahblahblah on Z-100"
Great radio. By the way, Chunky beats Z in women 18-34 at night.
Mo Bounce is doing CHR in a way that would have worked in the 80s, and works just as well in 2009. Same goes for guys like Boy Toy Jessie on 102.7 KIIS FM. They bring the right amount of high energy to the station.
Chunky is just a bad imitation of Bubba The Love Sponge when he was working at 93.3 FLZ in Tampa in the 90s. Just b/c he talks a lot and tries to convey personality doesnt mean that he's doing it all that well, or that he's all that original.
Chunky is just a bad imitation of Bubba The Love Sponge when he was working at 93.3 FLZ in Tampa in the 90s. Just b/c he talks a lot and tries to convey personality doesnt mean that he's doing it all that well, or that he's all that original.
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Nick said:
You just never let up! :
wgliradio said:
Really? That's whats wrong with CHR??? And here I thought the problem was too many automated dayparts, syndicated shows, voicetracking, national playlists, and a lot less opportunities for the up and comers to do overnight shifts.
Sadly there AREN'T ENOUGH high energy DJs across the nation, not the other way around. And yet depite all that CHR/Pop seems to be very healthy ratings-wide around the country.
Z-100 has its own morning show, which last year started syndicating to other markets. It's one of the market's heritage morning shows, and does very well in the ratings. WXRK 92.3 Now still doesnt have a morning show.
Z airs Seacrest's syndicated show, which in reality is mandatory for a lot of CC stations. Admittedly though, Ryan has gotten really good - there's a reason why 102.7 KIIS FM stays number one in L.A. even with the new Amp Radio in town. During that time of the day WXRK has the lovely Lisa Paige who does a great job, but would probably fall under your definition of a generic interchangeable female jock.
Z-100 definitely does NOT partake in the type of national playlists you see with some of the premium choice Clear Channel stations, or some of the Cumulus-owned ones. Z's music mix remains customized for New York.
The talent is not interchangeable either - only America's top CHR talent makes the cut at Z-100. That's a fact.
Look, I get personality radio. Having lived in Tampa while I was attending college I was exposed to some of the best talent in the country. Many of those guys are still with Clear Channel, and are kicking butt. Kane is over at Hot 99.5 Washington doing mornings. Hot is up to a 6.4 share in the just released PPMs. Another example is FLZ alumni Brian Holmes who does nights at 104.5 Grand Rapids, and has helped keep the station sounding edgy with high ratings.
There's also certain stations that give a station a certain upbeat party vibe, like the folks over at Power 96 Miami. They are part of what makes that station unique.
The Z-100 jocks are doing more than holding their own. They're giving New York's CHR audience the type of on-air presentation they want and expect from a CHR. The ratings have proved it time and time again.
The best personality, imo, at Now FM in New York is Tik Tak, but during his shift its all about the music. Perhaps it would have been better to have a music intensive show with Chunky, and have a bit more of a personality-driven PM show with Tik Tak (or have him do mornings).
Chunky actually sounded better when he was doing his shift at Channel 95-5 Detroit. WKQI also has Beau in afternoons. If you want to talk about a pro, Beau is someone who can definitely do radio!
Z airs Seacrest's syndicated show, which in reality is mandatory for a lot of CC stations. Admittedly though, Ryan has gotten really good - there's a reason why 102.7 KIIS FM stays number one in L.A. even with the new Amp Radio in town. During that time of the day WXRK has the lovely Lisa Paige who does a great job, but would probably fall under your definition of a generic interchangeable female jock.
Z-100 definitely does NOT partake in the type of national playlists you see with some of the premium choice Clear Channel stations, or some of the Cumulus-owned ones. Z's music mix remains customized for New York.
The talent is not interchangeable either - only America's top CHR talent makes the cut at Z-100. That's a fact.
Look, I get personality radio. Having lived in Tampa while I was attending college I was exposed to some of the best talent in the country. Many of those guys are still with Clear Channel, and are kicking butt. Kane is over at Hot 99.5 Washington doing mornings. Hot is up to a 6.4 share in the just released PPMs. Another example is FLZ alumni Brian Holmes who does nights at 104.5 Grand Rapids, and has helped keep the station sounding edgy with high ratings.
There's also certain stations that give a station a certain upbeat party vibe, like the folks over at Power 96 Miami. They are part of what makes that station unique.
The Z-100 jocks are doing more than holding their own. They're giving New York's CHR audience the type of on-air presentation they want and expect from a CHR. The ratings have proved it time and time again.
The best personality, imo, at Now FM in New York is Tik Tak, but during his shift its all about the music. Perhaps it would have been better to have a music intensive show with Chunky, and have a bit more of a personality-driven PM show with Tik Tak (or have him do mornings).
Chunky actually sounded better when he was doing his shift at Channel 95-5 Detroit. WKQI also has Beau in afternoons. If you want to talk about a pro, Beau is someone who can definitely do radio!
Andre the Dre Dogg is WAAAAYYYYYYY Better a Jock. No comparison, Great point!!!!!
I watched this the other day and I laughed sooo hard HAHAHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My1vOMaV0O8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My1vOMaV0O8
CHRles said:
Ryan has gotten good? He could not be more detached from his audience. As for the morning show, I never got Elvis, much like I never understood the Rick Dees phenominom. Phoney phone "taps", horriscopes and pandering to guests is not my idea of a creative morning show.
NOW doesn't need a morning show at the moment. It actually does quite well just playing music. The last thing you need to hear when stuck in traffic stressed out are people getting stressed out in some phony phone call which always has the same lame payoff.
CHRles said:
Billy the Kid was top notch? He ran outta here fast. Mo Bounce? A WBLI reject. Joe Rosati? Nothing original there. These aren't top flight guys, they're "safe" and can be easily interchanged when they either start making too much money or slip up. There is NOTHING memorable about these guys.
Z-100's playlist is very national. Some of the effect is from other markets here, alot of it is Z-100's influence on other CC stations. They didn't even add Jay-Z's "Empire" for more than a week after NOW and Hot 97 were spinning it. They've been hit and miss all summer and have had poor knee jerk reactions to NOW, which has helped it climb in cume and in key demos even faster.
I'd love to see Chunky in AM drive. I think he is the best CHR jock to hit the air in New York in years. He's much better than anything I have heard from Z-100, which is losing its soul under the weight of Clear Channel's need to nationalize their formats and content.
LOL, are you even listening to yourself? So you don't like Ryan Seacrest or Elvis Duran, and you dont find them memorable or relateable and that makes them bad? The ratings say otherwise. If Ryan seacrest is so detached from his audience then why is he number two in mornings in L.A.? And why is 102.7 KIIS-FM number one with 18-34 year olds?
Z-100 hasnt added Jay Z's song out of the box b/c there's enough good product out there right now that it can pick and choose when to add a record. That's what a good program director does - plays the hits, adds the hits at the right time for the station, and uses both gut reaction and research. Z is early on certain records, especially if they add balance to the sound othe station.
What exactly has been so original about 92.3 Now's playlist? If anything, 97.1 Amp Radio was the one that took some chances. It debuted with Kanye West's "Paranoid", and was early on songs like Pitbull's "I Konw You Want Me" and LMFAO's "I'm In Miami Bitch". The only record Now took a chance on was Serani's "No Games".
92.3 Now debuted with the smallest possible library - its entire library only consisted of 50 songs. I realize Top 40 radio is supposed to be like a jukebox, but with Now every song was in hyper rotation for the first few months. Not just its Top 5, and not just for the first few days. It was such a limited playlist, and it wasnt even customized enough for New York.
Z-100 is a leader, not a follower. It plays exactly the type of CHR records that work for New York - it's got the cume and the share to back it up. The recurrents are songs that still work in NYC like Lumidee's "Never Leave You" or Madhouse "Like A Prayer".
And Mo Bounce being a BLI reject? So despite the fact that he was supposedly rejected by market number 19 he still made his way to a far bigger market - Houston. The company that hired him? CBS Radio, the same company that owns 92.3 Now. They hired him at Hot 95.7 so appearantly CBS Radio thinks he's worth a damn.
I love how just b/c I (well pretty much everyone on this board) have some negative things to say about Chunky you retaliate by claiming all the other jocks on Z-100 are disposable, and every other CHR is responsible for producing bad radio. I guess you just know CHR radio better than everyone...which is why your favorite station garners an "amazing" 2.5 (very low for a CHR) share while Z-100 merely gets mid 4 numbers.
To be fair, I do think there have been some improvements made to Now in the past couple of months. They've realized they can't be anti-rock, not as long as the CHR audience in NYC expects to hear some of it, and not as long as103.5 KTU supplies the market with a Rhythmic CHR. Now has also become more Dance friendly, and has backed off from playing certain Recurrents and Golds from the 80s (Tone Loc, Beastie Boys) that might have worked in Detroit, but not in New York.
We're just not impressed with Chunky. Remember, this is New York. These people know what a good shock jock is, and his name is Howard Stern. I'm sorry, but Chunky just doesn't hold a candle to someone like Howard.
Z-100 hasnt added Jay Z's song out of the box b/c there's enough good product out there right now that it can pick and choose when to add a record. That's what a good program director does - plays the hits, adds the hits at the right time for the station, and uses both gut reaction and research. Z is early on certain records, especially if they add balance to the sound othe station.
What exactly has been so original about 92.3 Now's playlist? If anything, 97.1 Amp Radio was the one that took some chances. It debuted with Kanye West's "Paranoid", and was early on songs like Pitbull's "I Konw You Want Me" and LMFAO's "I'm In Miami Bitch". The only record Now took a chance on was Serani's "No Games".
92.3 Now debuted with the smallest possible library - its entire library only consisted of 50 songs. I realize Top 40 radio is supposed to be like a jukebox, but with Now every song was in hyper rotation for the first few months. Not just its Top 5, and not just for the first few days. It was such a limited playlist, and it wasnt even customized enough for New York.
Z-100 is a leader, not a follower. It plays exactly the type of CHR records that work for New York - it's got the cume and the share to back it up. The recurrents are songs that still work in NYC like Lumidee's "Never Leave You" or Madhouse "Like A Prayer".
And Mo Bounce being a BLI reject? So despite the fact that he was supposedly rejected by market number 19 he still made his way to a far bigger market - Houston. The company that hired him? CBS Radio, the same company that owns 92.3 Now. They hired him at Hot 95.7 so appearantly CBS Radio thinks he's worth a damn.
I love how just b/c I (well pretty much everyone on this board) have some negative things to say about Chunky you retaliate by claiming all the other jocks on Z-100 are disposable, and every other CHR is responsible for producing bad radio. I guess you just know CHR radio better than everyone...which is why your favorite station garners an "amazing" 2.5 (very low for a CHR) share while Z-100 merely gets mid 4 numbers.
To be fair, I do think there have been some improvements made to Now in the past couple of months. They've realized they can't be anti-rock, not as long as the CHR audience in NYC expects to hear some of it, and not as long as103.5 KTU supplies the market with a Rhythmic CHR. Now has also become more Dance friendly, and has backed off from playing certain Recurrents and Golds from the 80s (Tone Loc, Beastie Boys) that might have worked in Detroit, but not in New York.
We're just not impressed with Chunky. Remember, this is New York. These people know what a good shock jock is, and his name is Howard Stern. I'm sorry, but Chunky just doesn't hold a candle to someone like Howard.
Alright, to get some perspective I'm going to bring up a station that does have a lot of syndicated and voicetracking stuff going on. It's a Top 20 market and a CHR that's currently number one in cume and number 4 in share in its market. I'm talking about Channel 93-3 San Diego
http://www.channel933.com/
It's morning show? Piped in from Phoenix. Middays and afternoons? Voicetracked from KIIS-FM in L.A.
Thankfully the music mix is still customized for San Diego, and I guess syndication and voicetracking works for KHTS, otherwise it wouldn't be performing so well in one of the most overcrowded and competitive radio markets in the country
http://www.channel933.com
http://www.channel933.com/
It's morning show? Piped in from Phoenix. Middays and afternoons? Voicetracked from KIIS-FM in L.A.
Thankfully the music mix is still customized for San Diego, and I guess syndication and voicetracking works for KHTS, otherwise it wouldn't be performing so well in one of the most overcrowded and competitive radio markets in the country
http://www.channel933.com
CHRles said:
I can't answer for LA. I don't like Seacrest, if he attracts an audience, so be it. I don't think that means he needs to be on every CC CHR, especially in the biggest market.
But I don't get your train of thought. If I don't like them because I don't think they are memorable, then what's the joke? I know who they are, so I remember that, but when I listen, it's not compelling.
CHRles said:
How can you not be early on a Jay-Z record IN New York ABOUT New York around 9/11?? What was the good product, spinning "I Got A Feeling" past its prime? There were more than a few summer leftover powers on Z that could have been dumped and that's just one example.
CHRles said:
"Boom Boom Pow", "Replay", "Empire State of Mind", they were early on Pitbull as well and were early on Bieber.
CHRles said:
NOW is #2 12-24, and has a 5 women 18-34. Middays, Lisa Paige is half a point behind Lite women 18-34 and Chunky has almost a 5 at night same demo. All this with no TV and very little promotional budget. The station is a 2.8 million cume. Worst to First doesn't happen anymore because of the other non-radio product radio is competeing for. K-Rock was, IIRC a 1.3 in it's last book with 1.5 million cume. In 7 months it's gone to a 2.5 6+ and 2.8 million cume.
CHRles said:
The gold records have changed and I think its good NOW is moving towards some dance cuts. But stale records like The Frey, you can keep. NOW realizes this is a rhythm market.
CHRles said:
And this is where you don't get it. He's not Stern. He's not supposed to be. He's joking with High School and College girls. That's where the demo is. He communicates well with them. It's boys shocking girls humor, but they respond to it
I have a nephew who talks to his friends and girls he's friends with like that. He's 16. Alot of it is raw and putting things right out there. That's what it is.
CHRles said:
Most of that is probably because the mix is customized for San Diego. And the voice tracking can be good if the talent is savvy about the market they are tracking too.
The new CHR in Baltimore is allegedly supposed to draw on the resources of CC's other CHR's. Yikes.
BTW: The "Channel" branding for Clear Channel CHR's was a Dom Theodore idea when he was with Clear Channel at Channel 955 in Detroit. I have alot of respect for Dom even before he was here in NYC and I believe he knows what he's doing with his product.
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