Can anyone give me a list of the Music CHR been playing 1985-1989?
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Classic CHR 85-89
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MarioMania said:
Go to www.hibob.fm click on the Bob's 9@9 link they tell you all the top 9 songs of a certain year on that day in time.
and try this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_in_music
for 1986 replace the 5 with a 6 in the url and so on for other years. Look under Top Hits.
here is a great link
http://popradiotop20.com/POP/1980s.htm
http://popradiotop20.com/POP/1980s.htm
Here's a link to each of Billboard's year-end pop charts for the 80s (and every year starting with 1946):
http://longboredsurfer.com/charts/
http://longboredsurfer.com/charts/
NightAire said:
That's an interesting link, but those year-end lists don't match up with the official lists from Billboard. If you what the "official" lists, pick up a copy of Billboard's Hottest Hot 100 Hits by Fred Bronson.
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Based solely on weeks at #1, weeks in the top ten, weeks in the top 40 and weeks on the Hot 100, the number-one song from 1985-89 was That's What Friends Are For by Dionne Warwick, Elton John, Gladys Knight and Stevie Wonder. It won Grammy awards for song of the year (1986) and best vocal group. Then comes Say You Say Me by Lionel Richie and Another Day In Paradise by Phil Collins. Three dreary ballads---are you sure you don't want to pick some other years? 
Robert, are you SURE those lists don't match Billboard's lists? I ask because years ago I went down to the library and copied off of microfiche the year-end chart for 1980 through 1989... and I have yet to find a single error.
I think many of the chart books re-calculate a songs ratings based on different criteria. Not to say one way is right or wrong... just to say I believe these lists at that link DO line up with Billboard's year-end charts.
(Occasionally they are baffling, as a song that barely broke the top 10 but hung on for a long time may make the year end charts while a song that peaked in the top 5 and then disappeared may not make the end of the year chart.)
I think many of the chart books re-calculate a songs ratings based on different criteria. Not to say one way is right or wrong... just to say I believe these lists at that link DO line up with Billboard's year-end charts.
(Occasionally they are baffling, as a song that barely broke the top 10 but hung on for a long time may make the year end charts while a song that peaked in the top 5 and then disappeared may not make the end of the year chart.)
NightAire said:
Well they don't match what my copy of Fred's book says anyway. I'm sure those old magazines are hard to come by now.
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Robert Bass said:
Yes and no. Google Books has put them online. Thousands of them. There are some weeks missing, though.
And if you read Fred's introduction to the book, you'll see that Fred applies his own methodology to the Billboard chart numbers and comes up with different results.
Without looking at any of the links provided here, I can tell you that the Billboard year-end countdowns presented over AT40 usually rolled over whatever was currently on the charts at year's end over to the next year, apparently because "the jury was still out" on those. It used to irritate me to death, but it seemed like for nearly every year in the '80s, the #1 song for the entire year was something that had been #1 in December of the previous year. (I'm wondering if the "chart-freezes" for the last week of the year also contributed to December #1s getting a "bonus" week at #1.)
It is also possible that when end-of-year data was retabulated years later, they could give December #1s to their own year, rather than rolling them over to the next year.
But this is all just a theory. I don't know if this is actually the case.
It is also possible that when end-of-year data was retabulated years later, they could give December #1s to their own year, rather than rolling them over to the next year.
But this is all just a theory. I don't know if this is actually the case.
Once I heard a survey a few years back on the biggest hits of 1976 and I'm thinking, Ok the biggest #1 hit from that year is, of course, "Tonight's the Night", #1 for 8 weeks in November, December and the first week of January '77 (1/1), before Marilyn McCoo took over the top spot on 1/8.
After hearing "Disco Lady" & "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" at positions 3 and 2 (both 4 week #1's), the next obvious choice at #1 song for the year, had to be Rod Stewart's smash. Well, it wasn't..."Silly Love Songs" was #1 for 5 weeks and was the biggest song of the year.
Where was Rod Stewart at 8 weeks??? They did not count that song in their survey, since it carried over into 1977. It was a 1977 #1 song and not a '76 according to the survey. STRANGE! ???
According to Billboard, "Tonight's the Night" is a 1976 #1 song.
After hearing "Disco Lady" & "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" at positions 3 and 2 (both 4 week #1's), the next obvious choice at #1 song for the year, had to be Rod Stewart's smash. Well, it wasn't..."Silly Love Songs" was #1 for 5 weeks and was the biggest song of the year.
Where was Rod Stewart at 8 weeks??? They did not count that song in their survey, since it carried over into 1977. It was a 1977 #1 song and not a '76 according to the survey. STRANGE! ???
According to Billboard, "Tonight's the Night" is a 1976 #1 song.
Part of the problem was print deadlines. Even though Billboard was in the weekly chart business and should have been able to do quick turnarounds, the year-end issues were double issues, produced by the same staff. So they got to work on the year-end charts early and usually had them finalized by November 30, with a cut-off date for data even earlier than that.
And then, there was the most popular (for many years) of the Joel Whitburn Billboard chart books...Top Pop Annual. While his other books had a listing by artist, this book went year by year, chart peak by chart peak, in chronological order. Songs were assigned to the year in which they hit their peak position.
So let's say a song built fairly normally from September, 1984 to the end of the year, where it had made #2. In the first week of January, it made #1 but was knocked out of the top spot the following week, fell quickly and was off the charts entirely in a month. Even though most people heard that song all through the last quarter of '84, Top Pop Annual would list it as a 1985 song because of that single week at #1.
So let's say a song built fairly normally from September, 1984 to the end of the year, where it had made #2. In the first week of January, it made #1 but was knocked out of the top spot the following week, fell quickly and was off the charts entirely in a month. Even though most people heard that song all through the last quarter of '84, Top Pop Annual would list it as a 1985 song because of that single week at #1.
You're absolutely right. And "Rock'n Me" by the Steve Miller Band, #1 for the first week of November in 1976, right before "Tonight's the Night," didn't show up on either year's survey. ???oldies76 said:
I believe that the cutoff date (during the '70s) was the end of October. Sometime in the '80s, they were able to move it up to the end of November. I don't know if that means that there was a "13-month year" in there somewhere, or if they simply discounted a month (probably a November) sometime in the '80s.michael hagerty said:
michael hagerty said:
So technically, it's considered a 1985 hit, because the peak position occured in 1985, if we're going by peak dates. Debut dates are another matter, but Billboard's Pop Annual does not recognize them that way. That's the problem with slow risers...they may debut the prior year and peak well into the next year. Usually I recognize a song by it's peak date, to reference the year it was popular.
oldies76 said:
I do the exact same thing.
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oldies76 said:
And most of the time, that's smart. The hangup comes in situations like I described where the song gets 15 or 16 weeks of airplay near the end of the year, gets one week at its peak position just after New Years...then drops like a rock, gone from the chart in four or five weeks.
Most of the exposure will have occurred in the earlier year, with a rapid drop-off after the peak (which could be something like four weeks at #3, and then a week at #2, then out of the Top 10 entirely).
Technically, it peaked in the new year, but that doesn't really square with how and when most people heard it.
And, remember...charts lagged reality by a week to 10 days (two weeks around the holidays when Billboard was juggling vacation schedules and print deadlines)...so a peak the first week of a new year may be reflecting sales action from before Christmas, with a sharp decline in sales after...which is when the record starts to fall off the chart rapidly.
michael hagerty said:
I appreciate your agreement here. Obviously the "tuneout" thread isn't going to well, but I hope you understand.
What's your take on Foreigner's dilemma in 1981, stuck at 10 weeks at #2, thanks to the long run at #1 by Olivia Newton-John. Talk about frustration. And we all know which song is better!
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