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Classic Hits or Classic Rock?

One comment and a question:

News flash. Outside of Indiana, John Mellencamp is a Classic Rock artist, not a AAA artist. WTTS plays Mellencamp (way too much by anyone's standard) because he's a homey.

Secondly, are we really to the point where we have liberal music and conservative music ??? I guess maybe we are, and just think about how sad that is. This polarization of ideology will continue to weaken the country.
 
TWC,

Most of your points are of a "personal taste" nature. If you personally don't like the music, then you should definitely steer clear of pursuing a job as a program director.

I don't disagree with you on the artists you are burned out on or don't like. But the disconnect is how it applies to the formats you are talking about.
"I hate hearing Bob Seger and Heart on Classic Rock radio". Huh? Are you also sick of hearing Alan Jackson on country stations?

Also, Triple-A remains popular with the handful of people in a narrow audience who feel radio needs to educate folks on what they should be listening to. It's only a step away from the elitists who think NPR has mass appeal. That's why WTTS should put it's transmitter up on a flat bed truck and move it to a bigger market on the west coast. Even up north to a market like Chicago where WXRT has survived for years would be a good start. That's why it's so sad to hear the Allmans or Zeppelin on WTTS. "Hey! Over here! We play stuff like Q-95 sometimes! Please don't leave? Please? We promise we won't play Jack Johnson or John Mayer for another half-hour at least! Hello?". Dilute the purity of the product or get on the bandwagon by throwing your net too wide to keep up with the big boys? It's a tough call that I wouldn't want to make.

Yes, if you want to guarantee hearing mostly unfamilar music on a lower-rated radio station that appeals to a very narrow, hard-to-sell listener, then Triple-A is the way to go. I love that format too, but then again, I'm a big stinking music SNOB who gave up on the spontanaity and community-mindedness of radio a few years back.

Finally, so "Pink Houses" didn't sell any copies in the red states? Hmmmm. Better consult my sales figures on that one. And Chevy chose Mellencamp for their new nationwide "This is Our Country" campaign because he has limited appeal in certain states? Then that marketing guru is overpaid and soon-to-be unemployed.

And "you people in radio ought to be ashamed" should be directed to the people who make the format decisions and hiring and firing decisions. Your comment and finger-waving is misdirected and naive.
For the most part, "those people" aren't here, bro. Do some research and drop your hate bombs elsewhere.
Have you ever filled out a diary? Have you ever written a letter or made a phone call?
If you don't vote, you can't bitch. The same applies to radio.

We're here standing up for the music and the preservation of radio, not for sending it into the tar pits.
 
For centuries music has been a way to promote political ideology. There was tons of it during the Viet Nam war years. Songs like "For What It's Worth" by Buffalo Springfield, varioius songs by Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, "War" by Edwin Starr, etc., etc. If current music is expressing a liberal or conservative political message, it isn't a new idea at all.

twc27614 said:
One question:

Are we really to the point where we have liberal music and conservative music ??? I guess maybe we are, and just think about how sad that is. This polarization of ideology will continue to weaken the country.
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OK, so I'm an elitist snob. I still think Boston needs to be permanently retired from the airwaves. Oh, and Alan Jackson, too. ;D ;D ;D
 
Here's a great idea for a radio format: all Steppenwolf and Boston all the time.

twc27614 said:
OK, so I'm an elitist snob. I still think Boston needs to be permanently retired from the airwaves. Oh, and Alan Jackson, too. ;D ;D ;D
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Steppenwolf said:
Here's a great idea for a radio format: all Steppenwolf and Boston all the time.

twc27614 said:
OK, so I'm an elitist snob. I still think Boston needs to be permanently retired from the airwaves. Oh, and Alan Jackson, too. ;D ;D ;D
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As long as it was "Born to Be Wild" and "More Than a Feeling". Just those two.
 
Apollo7979 said:
Donkeypuncher, is that you? Be honest. ;)
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what do I look like to you a skitzophrenic? no wait dont answer that question just play nice
 
Lafayette Unplugged said:
Steppenwolf said:
Here's a great idea for a radio format: all Steppenwolf and Boston all the time.

twc27614 said:
OK, so I'm an elitist snob. I still think Boston needs to be permanently retired from the airwaves. Oh, and Alan Jackson, too. ;D ;D ;D
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As long as it was "Born to Be Wild" and "More Than a Feeling". Just those two.
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As far as Steppenwolf's music goes, the station would also HAVE to play these other Steppenwolf songs that also received top-40 airplay; Move Over, Hey Lawdy Mama, Magic Carpet Ride, Rock Me Baby. The group did 7 albums, after all. All Steppenwolf, all the time.
 
Sorry folks, those Steppenwolf songs are "DEEP CUTS". DEEP CUTS are not allowed. Somebody in our audience might not know ALL the words. They didn't "test" well in the focus group at Happy Valley Mall. We have already decided which 300 songs you like for you.
 
Lafayette Unplugged said:
There's something for "Deep Cut" radio fans out there...it's called the iPod. Check it out.
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Tens of millions have ipods. And once the car stereo hookup becomes pretty much a standard feature (already starting to be deployed), bye bye quality demographics.
 
Steppenwolf said:
Don't forget Hootchie Kootchie Man and Tighten Up Your Wig.

Tired-Old-Dog said:
I want to hear Snowblind Friend, The Pusher, and The Monster.
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You can't have a station that plays JUST one artist. It will never survive.
Oh, wait! That's called SATELLITE RADIO!
But radio is so strong right now, iPods and Satellite couldn't possibly compete, right?
 
It's the argument that goes on forever: ::)

Somebody complains about radio having too tight of a playlist ("300 songs" or whatever), but those stations succeed more often in more markets.

Somebody complains about radio playing "grandpa's" music from 1970, but those stations keep succeeding for the most part more often in more markets.

Gazillions of people have iPods and satellite hook-ups, and the Triple A format DOES NOT succeed as much as Top 40, CHR, Urban, Hot Country, Oldies, Classic Rock, because most radio listeners are SHEEP.

An "all Steppenwolf" network would probably succeed on satellite because it would be one of MANY choices on the dial. And it would not disguise itself as a "Classic rock" station with variety but playing mostly Steppenwolf anyway!

Advertising and programming is geared toward sheep, advertising produces revenue for the station owners who maintain the status quo for the sheep, and the people who have no voice in the programming and don't get diaries to fill out continue to COMPLAIN (or complain but actually do nothing about it).

The people that post on here don't have a direct hand in or impact on radio that is in any way revolutionary or geared toward keeping up with change. That includes me.
( If they did anyway, they'd be somewhere else working on just that, wouldn't they?)
Frustrated listeners, former/current programmers, current/former jocks, all slaves to opinions with no place to actually apply them except HERE.
That includes me, as well.
 
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