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Classic Rock?

I know this is a dying format. But I spent a few days here this week and found KSLX and KDKB to be really amateur-sounding radio stations.

In a market of this size, I am very surprised. They both sound like college radio. I thought KSLX was a little better, but still bad.

I guess this format's days are really numbered.
 
Ladytalk said:
I know this is a dying format. But I spent a few days here this week and found KSLX and KDKB to be really amateur-sounding radio stations.

In a market of this size, I am very surprised. They both sound like college radio. I thought KSLX was a little better, but still bad.

I guess this format's days are really numbered.

Well, there's a reason why we call Sandusky Radio "Gumpdusky" on this board. ;D

They own both stations, as well as KUPD 97.9 and couple of totally forgettable AM stations here. I don't know how they operate their stations in other markets, but they're a schlock outfit here, with KUPD probably being their best-run station.

I don't know where you're from and how your area's classic rock stations are, but believe it or not, both stations are sounding better than they did a year ago, so I do give Gumpdusky a little bit of credit. KDKB used to be much worse. They're nowhere near the "classic" KDKB of the early/mid '70s but it is getting better.

You should have tuned into KCDX 103.1 if you were in the east valley. They're totally jockless, commercial-free, and have a much better selection of music than the Gumpdusky stations. It's owned by a guy who runs the station as a hobby - essentially a PC with Winamp connected to a high-powered transmitter. But, since they're licensed to Florence and transmit from near Globe (70 miles east of downtown Phoenix), their signal doesn't cover the entire market.
 
Thank you, KeithE4,

I travel a lot for business so I'll check out KCDX next time I'm out there.

I'm from the Atlantic City area. I really enjoy Philadelphia's classic rocker WMGK.
 
I agree that the classic rock stations in Phoenix are weak sounding. I'm from San Diego
which has the best of all classic rockers in 101 KGB. Both stations here need that same
sound and feel to them.
 
Entercom need to buy Sandusky radio stations in Phoenix, Arizona

Entercom Communications need to step up to buy Phoenix Radio Stations cluster from Sandusky Radio.

Sandusky Owns

93.3 KDKB (Rock)
97.9 KUPD (Active Rock)
100.7 KSLX (Classic Rock)
1060 KDUS The Fun (Sports)

Please tell Entercom CEO David Field to buy the Sandusky stations out in Phoenix.

http://www.entercom.com

I got a idea from Entercom merge KDKB and KSLX into one classic rocker on 93.3 FM and KDKB call letter and put Hip-Hop on full siginal 100.7 FM.
 
Re: Entercom need to buy Sandusky radio stations in Phoenix, Arizona

Radioguy2006 said:
Entercom Communications need to step up to buy Phoenix Radio Stations cluster from Sandusky Radio.

Sandusky Owns

93.3 KDKB (Rock)
97.9 KUPD (Active Rock)
100.7 KSLX (Classic Rock)
1060 KDUS The Fun (Sports)

Please tell Entercom CEO David Field to buy the Sandusky stations out in Phoenix.

http://www.entercom.com

I got a idea from Entercom merge KDKB and KSLX into one classic rocker on 93.3 FM and KDKB call letter and put Hip-Hop on full siginal 100.7 FM.

He's ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ck......
 
Re: Entercom need to buy Sandusky radio stations in Phoenix, Arizona

Radioguy2006 said:
Entercom Communications need to step up to buy Phoenix Radio Stations cluster from Sandusky Radio.

Sandusky Owns

93.3 KDKB (Rock)
97.9 KUPD (Active Rock)
100.7 KSLX (Classic Rock)
1060 KDUS The Fun (Sports)

Please tell Entercom CEO David Field to buy the Sandusky stations out in Phoenix.

http://www.entercom.com

I got a idea from Entercom merge KDKB and KSLX into one classic rocker on 93.3 FM and KDKB call letter and put Hip-Hop on full siginal 100.7 FM.

Yeah it's that simple, just tell him and I expect the deal to close by 4pm monday, 5pm at the latest. That's what I love about this board, there are people that understand radio and people who think they understand radio.
 
Re: Entercom need to buy Sandusky radio stations in Phoenix, Arizona

Radioguy2006 said:
Entercom Communications need to step up to buy Phoenix Radio Stations cluster from Sandusky Radio.

Sandusky Owns

93.3 KDKB (Rock)
97.9 KUPD (Active Rock)
100.7 KSLX (Classic Rock)
1060 KDUS The Fun (Sports)

Please tell Entercom CEO David Field to buy the Sandusky stations out in Phoenix.

http://www.entercom.com

I got a idea from Entercom merge KDKB and KSLX into one classic rocker on 93.3 FM and KDKB call letter and put Hip-Hop on full siginal 100.7 FM.
Yeah, that's what this market needs, MORE hip-hop! Just like we need another sports-talk station.

(/sarcasm).
 
Re: Entercom need to buy Sandusky radio stations in Phoenix, Arizona

KMGX said:
Yeah, that's what this market needs, MORE hip-hop! Just like we need another sports-talk station.

(/sarcasm).

How about this: Hip-hop sports. Emphasize coverage of playground basketball. Put it on "The Fun." ;D
 
Re: Entercom need to buy Sandusky radio stations in Phoenix, Arizona

Radioguy2006 said:
Sandusky Owns
93.3 KDKB (Rock)
97.9 KUPD (Active Rock)
100.7 KSLX (Classic Rock)
1060 KDUS The Fun (Sports)

And lest we forget KAZG. You can't leave out Lumberyard 1440, home of the
EVOO Radio Network (not "heard all over Arizona"), Nancy Pelosi's Fan Club,
and the slowly-drifting lamp timer (now ten minutes fast).
 
The problem with classic rock stations is that even though there is such an incredibly huge inventory of music that fits the category and the listeners of a certain age love listening to, the practice of over testing, tight playlists, and burning out songs with heavy rotation is putting a bullet into what could still be an extremely vital and profitable format.

Perhaps if more radio people would actually get to know their audience's taste in music and in the formatics that surround the music, they wouldn't ruin classic rock stations so quickly.

For example, if a classic rock station sounds like a good college station might have sounded back in the 70's when today's 40 somethings were in college, then those same 30 somethings would find that hearing their favorite music from their salad days surrounded by formatics that also sound like those glory days before adulthood took hold would be something hard to resist.
 
yep.... but today's 40-somethings went to college in the 80s, didn't they? at least I did! ;D
 
Actually, I think the problem with classic rock stations is that they're zombies. A station that kinda looks like someone you once knew and loved, but is now clearly quite dead, and stalking you with relentless, if slow, efficiency.

Like any other oldies format, the classic rock stations play the "hits" that got the most spins back on late 70s/early 80s album rock radio, and maybe the voice guy echoes the big, ballsy sound you remember, but like a zombie, all the life has been sucked out of the station. The larger than life personalities, outrageous promotions, and rebellious cache' that we remember from those days are all gone...too expensive and risky for the consultant-driven walking dead that is today's classic rock station.

KSLX is a perfect example of what's wrong with classic rock. It should be a cash cow, but instead it is the bastard step-child of Sandusky, and the station they spend the least amount of time and money promoting.
 
Greetings from Atlanta. I like to check out the boards in other cities & sometimes add my comments.

As a die hard fan of classic rock from 70s,80s & 90s, it is distrubing to watch classic rock on commerical radio stations being driven to its grave.
I old enough to remember the days of classic rock as described in the previous comment.
But, sometime in the 1990s & into this decade,classic rock has been turned into a zombie.
The same 50 songs played over & over with djs who play it safe & sound bland.
It doesnot help that voicetracking is used more & more. How can a dj from another city connect with the people who live in your city?
I finally had to get a Sirius subscription just to hear a big bowl of classic rock variety.
 
Emmis Communications need to buy Sandusky Stations in Phoenix

Emmis Communications need to buy four Sandusky Radio Stations.

93.3 KDKB (Rock)
97.9 KUPD (Active Rock)
100.7 KSLX (Classic Rock)
1060 KDUS The Fan (Sports)

Emmis will put more money into Sandusky Stations. Merge KSLX and KDKB into one classic rocker on 93.3 FM as KDKB Classic Rock Arizona.

Use 100.7 KSLX full market signal as a new alternative station.


Please contact Jeff Smulyan from Emmis Communications at 1-317-266-0100

Email: [email protected] or [email protected]
 
I spend much of the summer in Lake Havasu and whats sad is that I would rather listen to their satellite fed station KRRK than KSLX. The music selection is much broader and while their DJ's don't have a local connection, atleast they are allowed to talk about the music, artists and current events.
 
It's always the same thing..."Play something different....whaaa whaaa"
Then when a station does, the core audience, you remember them right? The ones that don't know that the radio boards are around...the ones that can't remember the call letters of a station even though they are told them every 5 minutes, they are gone. Radio is for the mass audience...I myself would love to hear some different stuff but I know it ain't gonna happen, it doesn't sell. That is what it all comes down to...what sells.
 
Ladytalk said:
I know this is a dying format. But I spent a few days here this week and found KSLX and KDKB to be really amateur-sounding radio stations.

In a market of this size, I am very surprised. They both sound like college radio. I thought KSLX was a little better, but still bad.

I guess this format's days are really numbered.

I don't understand the fuss. You have a classic rock station in KSLX that will play REM at any given time, a mainstream rock station in KDKB that will play Charlie Daniels and an Active rock that plays vintage VH all day.

This is a problem?

*snicker*
 
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