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David Owens

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KSLX certainly holds down the fort for classic rock in Phoenix, and it seems better overall lately, but a few months ago, I heard these 4 songs in this order:

Welcome To The Machine - Pink Floyd
Bad Bad Leroy Brown - Jim Croce
You Really Got Me - Van Halen
Never Been To Spain - Three Dog Night

If you know these songs well, and think about how each one ends and the next one begins, not to mention the complete lack of any similarity with these songs/artists, I can't think of a worse train wreck ever....especially Van Halen going into Three Dog Night, good grief, was this some kind of joke ????

This is a classic case of the golden rule of radio these days "DO NOT change the songs or order of songs in the automation sequence".

I can't tell you what aired after Three Dog Night, because my urge to throw something at the radio was increasing and my mp3 player won out.
 
Bad Bad Leroy Brown?? Classic Rock?? YIKES!
 
Heck, K-Slacks thinks Wilson Pickett is classic rock.

And it's always a treat ::) to hear Brown Eyed Girl there too.
 
I heard Jimi Hendrix All Along The Watchtower followed by Operator by Jim Croce.

Another day it was a Led Zeppelin track followed by Ain't No Sunshine by Bill Withers.

You can play all the Hendrix and Zeppelin you want, but it negates it when you play Croce and Bill Withers. You can't be all things to all listeners, unless of course, there's nobody else playing classic rock perhaps.

Fact is, KSLX stopped being a true classic rock station years ago.
 
When Steve Trella(?) was at KSLX, it was amazing to me how well the songs followed each other despite being chosen by Selector. After he got booted I noticed the same quirkiness as noted above. I can't say for sure, but when I used to tune in to the overnight show while working on a project, Mike Flatt seemed to go off Selector because the segues were way too good for anything automated. And there were none of the way-overplayed Elton John and Billy Joel songs, which you hear far too much during the daytime.
Years ago before Selector, some of my audience thought I wasn't playing the same music as the rest of the dayparts because they said they really enjoyed the show. I was playing the same music, but with an ear to what sounded best next. The little yellow, green and red dots that used to indicate how hot a song was weren't always that good for segues. Today's jocks can't do that with computer-determined music.
 
Listening to the streaming from time to time, I did notice some odd "dead" seques. There may be an arguement of playing those songs in that order (if research indicates), but I was scratching my head that there were no talk or produced elements in between. But then again, I thought there must be SOME good reason that they do this. Being a Classic Rock PD I was intriqued by the KSLX's flow. As for me, I will agonize and obsess over a music log before I import to the studio...
 
The Buckeye Boyz spin: these songs tested well individually, but when played together have as much in common as Aerosmith and Lady Gaga. Classic YIKES! And all this fuss over 100 point Seven when no one has mentioned that Danno did his final booking yesterday (10/28) at age 72 http://www.mjq.net/fiveo The Breezeway window on McGarrett's black Merc is at half staff as The Ventures play the show's namesake on KSL (whoosh-whoosh) X :(
 
Note to Kevin-Billy Joel sucks and has no business on a Classic Rock station.

Sometimes oldies WMFQ sounds more like a Classic Rock station than your station.
 
Ummm Jim Croce and/or Billy Joel is surely more Classic Rock than Nirvana!
Nirvana makes no sense to me on KSLX...if you're gonna play them, why not any other "grunge" bands? It's so random, and it's only "Come As You Are." ??

But we're all radio people on this board...their average listener loves KSLX and doesn't question or even think about the playlist at all!
 
sirlaughsalot said:
When Steve Trella(?) was at KSLX, it was amazing to me how well the songs followed each other despite being chosen by Selector. After he got booted I noticed the same quirkiness as noted above. I can't say for sure, but when I used to tune in to the overnight show while working on a project, Mike Flatt seemed to go off Selector because the segues were way too good for anything automated.
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Selector or MusicMaster are not "automation" but simply databases that help a PD or MD put together the log. Most users spend a lot of time massaging each log manually. Neither program "chooses" songs on their own.

In advance, the PD has established clocks, rules about rest, tempo, dayparting, artist separation, era, test score average, prohibited segues, rotatio, etc., etc. that cover a huge percentage of the logistics of scheduling and which are done specifically for each station and revised often. And the playable songs are chosen by the PD, usually with the help of AMTs and other research.

To say this is automated programming is like saying that Photoshop is automated fine art drawing. Music scheduling software is a tool. The better the PD, the better they use the available tools and resources.

What these programs can do is prevent inconsistent horizontal and vertical rotation, consistent tempo balance, things like segues of songs that both test low in a specific demos or audience subset, etc. In other words, things that would needlessly take hours and hours and hours to do manually.
 
The song they play that I hate is 'the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald', I mean, 'The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down, 'bout the big lake they call Gitchy Gooomy.' Give me a break.

But you guys know how it goes, either you play Jimi Hendricks and Jim Croce, or you get called for not playing enough variety. And besides, I guarantee you that every song on K-slacks is tested against their target demographic. If it tests, it gets played. If it doesn't, it don't.
 
God- that's the worst song Gordon Lightfoot ever recorded. Some music sucks no matter how they test. Billy Joel sucks, Stxy suck, Supertramp sucks, most Eagles songs suck ("the only good thing about Eagles albums is they keep dust off your turntable'" said Tom Waits.

Thank God for Sirius/XM !
 
radiobum said:
God- that's the worst song Gordon Lightfoot ever recorded.
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Aw, c'mon! The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald is one of the best cures for insomnia ever invented! ;D

Thank God for Sirius/XM !
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And KCDX (when they're not broadcasting dead air, that is).
 
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