Clear Channel Atlanta - what a dump!

[musicman3355]

I know many of you know this already but CC Atlanta has to be the WORST cluster CC has. What an embrassment, especially for major-market Atlanta. Seriously, 3 of the 5 FMs (96.7 The Legend, El Patron 105.3, Groove 105.7) look/sound broken, while 94.9 The Bull and Project 9-6-1 sound fine to me. Even 640 WGST is terrible, the whole schedule is syndicated! Plus, the 3 FMs I mentioned don't even have full market coverage after looking at the Radio-Locator maps. How embrassing!

 

[Sgeirk]

Their signals are a problem, but pale in comparison to what their billing has done in the last decade: off around 15-20 million.

When WGST had a 4.0 share, WKLS was top 3 Men 25-54, and Peach was still top 5 or 7 25-54, on average...that cluster was actually doing juuuuust fine.

It's a total disaster.

 

[jabba17]

105.3 and 105.7 are both move-ins, both previously having been at 105.5. They are what they are. 96.7 is a longtime itty-bitty signal.

94.9 and 96.1 are both intown 100k signals. As Sgierk posted, the old WGST, 96 Rock, and Peach once did a lot better than they do today. Heck, WGST was beating WSB-AM at one point....albeit with a little help from 105.7.

CC makes Planet Radio look like a ratings juggernaut.

 

[DToTheJ]

Even 640 WGST is terrible...

"Even"? Where have you been, WGST has been a dump for years.

 

[RTibbs]

105.3 and 105.7 are both move-ins, both previously having been at 105.5. They are what they are. 96.7 is a longtime itty-bitty signal.

94.9 and 96.1 are both intown 100k signals. As Sgierk posted, the old WGST, 96 Rock, and Peach once did a lot better than they do today. Heck, WGST was beating WSB-AM at one point....albeit with a little help from 105.7.

CC makes Planet Radio look like a ratings juggernaut.

Remember though when many of these stations were in their heyday there was a lot less signals. Look at all the move-ins over the last 10 -12 years that those station did not have to compete against. Granted Peach and 96 rock were better run stations then but the competition wasn;t these either.

 

[jabba17]

105.3 and 105.7 are both move-ins, both previously having been at 105.5. They are what they are. 96.7 is a longtime itty-bitty signal.

94.9 and 96.1 are both intown 100k signals. As Sgierk posted, the old WGST, 96 Rock, and Peach once did a lot better than they do today. Heck, WGST was beating WSB-AM at one point....albeit with a little help from 105.7.

CC makes Planet Radio look like a ratings juggernaut.

Remember though when many of these stations were in their heyday there was a lot less signals. Look at all the move-ins over the last 10 -12 years that those station did not have to compete against. Granted Peach and 96 rock were better run stations then but the competition wasn;t these either.

Dunno about that...
95.5, 105.3, and 100.5 moved in in the 00's.
105.7 moved in in the early 90s.
97.1, 104.1, 104.7, and 106.7 moved in back in the 80s (although 104.1 and 104.7 did move closer in still in the 90s and 106.7 in the 00s, but 106.7 was already a presence in the ATL market before they moved to the Fish stick).

There are also all of Radio One's fill-in signal Heathkit transmitters, but none of those ever competed in the AOR or AC formats (except maybe WJZZ).

96 Rock and Peach were holding their own well into the 90s, after the move-ins of the 80s and 90s. 105.3 doesn't have good NE coverage, and 100.5 doesn't have good northside exurban coverage (especially NE where it competes with WSSL). The only metrowide move-in signal from last decade would be 95.5. All the "big" move-ins were from the 80s and early 90s.

Peach managed outlast all AC comers from the 1980s except B98.5, outlasting the move-in, soft hits of the 60s, 70s, and 80s edition of Fox 97, WLTA/Warm 100/99.7, 94Q (although you could argue Star 94 is reprising 94Q's old hot AC role), and Lite 106. All this despite Peach being the last of ATL's Beautiful Music stations to flip.

 

[thefirstgenesis]

105.3 and 105.7 are both move-ins, both previously having been at 105.5. They are what they are. 96.7 is a longtime itty-bitty signal.

94.9 and 96.1 are both intown 100k signals. As Sgierk posted, the old WGST, 96 Rock, and Peach once did a lot better than they do today. Heck, WGST was beating WSB-AM at one point....albeit with a little help from 105.7.

CC makes Planet Radio look like a ratings juggernaut.

Remember though when many of these stations were in their heyday there was a lot less signals. Look at all the move-ins over the last 10 -12 years that those station did not have to compete against. Granted Peach and 96 rock were better run stations then but the competition wasn;t these either.

Dunno about that...
95.5, 105.3, and 100.5 moved in in the 00's.
105.7 moved in in the early 90s.
97.1, 104.1, 104.7, and 106.7 moved in back in the 80s (although 104.1 and 104.7 did move closer in still in the 90s and 106.7 in the 00s, but 106.7 was already a presence in the ATL market before they moved to the Fish stick).

There are also all of Radio One's fill-in signal Heathkit transmitters, but none of those ever competed in the AOR or AC formats (except maybe WJZZ).

96 Rock and Peach were holding their own well into the 90s, after the move-ins of the 80s and 90s. 105.3 doesn't have good NE coverage, and 100.5 doesn't have good northside exurban coverage (especially NE where it competes with WSSL). The only metrowide move-in signal from last decade would be 95.5. All the "big" move-ins were from the 80s and early 90s.

Peach managed outlast all AC comers from the 1980s except B98.5, outlasting the move-in, soft hits of the 60s, 70s, and 80s edition of Fox 97, WLTA/Warm 100/99.7, 94Q (although you could argue Star 94 is reprising 94Q's old hot AC role), and Lite 106. All this despite Peach being the last of ATL's Beautiful Music stations to flip.

Peach 94.9 held their ground pretty good even into the 2000's. When they switched to the Lite 94.9 FM name in 2003, their ratings dropped but still were a tad higher than 98.5. Remember Steve Goss? He was pretty much one of the anchors to this station and one of the greatest radio personalities in Atlanta during that time. And of course, one of the stupidest decisions made in Atlanta radio history was to flip 94.9 in 2006. Looks like more Internet streaming from the next the AC station, WBBQ in Augusta for me. At least they have a good mix of AC hits from yesterday and today compared to the so called "light rock" station here.

 

[RoddyFreeman]

106.7 was already a presence in the ATL market before they moved to the Fish stick)

The Fish stick? You're making me hungry!

 

[jambox]

Now, if you have nothing to say nice, say nothing at all Roddy. :-X

 

[DToTheJ]

CC/Atlanta certainly couldn't be as big a dump as CC/Washington - from what I've read, sales managers are literally getting into fights with other employees over there!

 

[FloydB]

106.7 was already a presence in the ATL market before they moved to the Fish stick)

The Fish stick? You're making me hungry!

But, is it minced, and how does this affect...

 

[Nyte Ryder]

The only appropriate Fish comment here is "beating on Clear Channel Atlanta is like shooting fish in a barrel." They have screwed up so many good opportunities over the last decade and there are only two common denominators.

John Hogan and Marc Chase.

They should be sleeping with the fishes, job wise. Okay, that's a second fish reference. I stand corrected.

 

[secondchoice]

106.7 was already a presence in the ATL market before they moved to the Fish stick)

IIRC 106.7 was on 97.1 tower a little lower on the tower but still a good signal in the Northern Burgs which has a large concentration of county listeners.

 

[jabba17]

106.7 was already a presence in the ATL market before they moved to the Fish stick)

IIRC 106.7 was on 97.1 tower a little lower on the tower but still a good signal in the Northern Burgs which has a large concentration of county listeners.

My daughter reminded me that 106.7 was indeed on the Chateau Elan tower with 97.1 when they first moved in, with higher power (close to a full 100k? vs. 77k) but a lower HAAT compared to their current transmitter on the Fish stick.

 

[littlejohn]

106.7 was put on the WFOX owned tower when Katz Broadcasting bought it from Jacobs Media. It did the full 100KW in the main lobe, had half a degree of beam tilt, which resulted in 99KW horizontal. Moving to the current location lost it considerable coverage. I'm told t was moved because on paper, there is greatter signal over more of the population. The problem is, that's on paper. In the real world, the initial location put good signal over the population If memopry serves, it did about a 8 share 12+ bacjk in the 80s once. The move allowed other stations on the same and adjacent frequencies to movr closer to the city. Consequently, now you lose it sooner, and lose it to interference rather than to noise.