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Clear Channel bashing!

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unluckylistener

Some hate the CC chain and perhaps you have a reason. I sometimes question the reason our forefathers allow such a hold in a market legal. The Clear Channel policies really are no different than radio past. I even would say they are no different than most large companies today. I too miss the good ol' days of radio.
I do wish jocks ran wild into the night on the radio. Those days are gone. I miss the local all night local talk shows. The truth is it is gone. Dont blame the Clear Answer or the gang. They are just playing the game!

Why not trade ideas I know those of you who work at other types of jobs could program a major market radio station. Lets see what ideas you come up with. <P ID="signature">______________
If I could I would program!</P>
 
First of all, they have changed the game and our company has dealt with many radio clusters. Hands down, CC is the most unscrupulous of the bunch. Even if you were to give any one of the poor schmucks on this board a job as a program director, it wouldn't really matter because the CC PD's in Houston don't program. They are nothing more than corporate yes men who make no pivitol decisions. It wasn't always this way. In the late 90's their PD's still had some say so. The Buzz will never recapture the numbers they had when Jim Trapp was running the show. Mix is sucking wind. Sunny is the cash cow and that can literally run on auto pilot. Then you have to factor in the human touch. While it's true that difficult decisions have to be made, the fact that certain corporate dickweeds take delight in other's suffering is disgusting.
 
> Some hate the CC chain and perhaps you have a reason.

Why do you feel it's limited to local program direction?

Artists, promotion companies, venue owners and many, many listeners would be happy if Clear Channel had a sudden corporate culture change or a visit from the SEC.

It's not "bashing" when the feelings are genuine.
Just ask around. The truth will find you.
 
> First of all, they have changed the game and our company has
> dealt with many radio clusters. Hands down, CC is the most
> unscrupulous of the bunch. Even if you were to give any one
> of the poor schmucks on this board a job as a program
> director, it wouldn't really matter because the CC PD's in
> Houston don't program. They are nothing more than corporate
> yes men who make no pivitol decisions. It wasn't always
> this way. In the late 90's their PD's still had some say
> so. The Buzz will never recapture the numbers they had when
> Jim Trapp was running the show. Mix is sucking wind. Sunny
> is the cash cow and that can literally run on auto pilot.
> Then you have to factor in the human touch. While it's true
> that difficult decisions have to be made, the fact that
> certain corporate dickweeds take delight in other's
> suffering is disgusting.
>


I ask you this how is CC worst than any other fortune 500?
I contend you need a few more employers and you will see my thought thru!
Any company would love the eliminate employees except the government and automate. Please dont be fooled. Yes Men have always been in middle management thats how the world turns. PD's have always been yes men until the day they are no longer there. No PD is a have it my way or its the highway to any GM.
The Buzz is banging every dudes radio while doing all the fun things dudes do.
Mix is the only thing I agree with you on. Poor management? Look at the PoInT
That station needs help. The music is ok needs more songs added. The presentation needs help. Jocks they need to go. Jack would do good. Atleast mix sounds put together. The PoInT really is a mess!<P ID="signature">______________
If I could I would program!</P>
 
Not sure if you were typing with your feet, but I think you are wrong on several points. Prior to the Vince days, the Buzz was riding at a 4.6. (This was without a morning show). Even without another rock competitor in the market, they can't seem to get back to those days. (KIOL doesn't count, that isn't a station). Mix's glory days were the mid 90's. This too was done without a talk intensive morning show. How an alternative can play 70% gold material is beyond me. How an AC station that has changed it's positioning statement 10 times in five years is beyond me. Instead of fixing the music, they brought back a morning guy who wasn't pulling in numbers in the first place. I hope CC isn't this bad in every market and that Houston just happens to be that one poorly run market, but I would be surprised if this didn't go on elsewhere. It just seems these guys can't open up a radio chart and play hits. If you combine the age of the two PD's CC Houston has, you would have an age of 105. That is a problem. If you look at what those two have done prior to Houston, you have another problem. If you take into consideration that these guys have shot down so many of our ideas and keep rehashing the same (BLEEP), that doesn't work, over and over, that is a problem. There isn't a sales rep or firm in town that enjoys working with those numbnuts. No vision, no balls, no talent. If you possess these traits, please send your resume to Ken Charles today. (remember to stuff it with cash, that's the only thing that gets him to move on something).
 
> If you take into consideration that these guys have shot
> down so many of our ideas and keep rehashing the same
> (BLEEP), that doesn't work, over and over, that is a
> problem. There isn't a sales rep or firm in town that
> enjoys working with those numbnuts.

so it's the job of the programming department to (BLEEP) out the station to whatever (often-times lame) promotion a client comes up with? wasn't aware of that.. thanks for educating me.

the biggest problem with promotions that originate with sales and/or clients is they're usually solely concerned with what they think will benefit the client, regardless of whether it has any true benefit to the listener. throwing promotions on the air that listeners don't really care about becomes clutter, and doesn't really benefit the station OR the client..
 
> Spoken like a true PD
>

former pd actually, along with on-air, production, promotions. and at every station I was at, if it weren't for prodgramming filtering out all the lame promotional ideas they got inundated with, the airwaves would have been wall-to-wall garbage with no redeeming value for the listener. i actually think it's kind of encouraging to see various companies starting to back off the (BLEEP)-out-everything mentality that was so prevalent 5 years ago... sorry if that bruises your "my ideas are so creative that listeners should have them forced upon them" ego.
 
> I would like to ask those of you who doubt my word, go to 5 of your friends that do not work in radio and ask them about the compant they work for. Try to besure they work for a fortune 500 company. I bet that they can tell you similar stories about thier company. Formatics aside you will find I am correct. Then come back an post what you have found!

I enjoy typing with my left foot and blindfolded. The Buzz is CC's 2 hottest station in Houston next to Sunny. Nobody can argue there. I do not think they VT which I give them kudos there. It always sounds like they are there by comments they make about whatever may be going on now with live remotes and phone callers.

Mix is a mess but they do sound atleat a put together mess. Where has the PoInT is a mess and only a mess. Glad to hear a new PD is on the way. The station needs sincere attention. Like a format change soon! What if they go AC up with Sunny. One monent please while I remove fungas from my left little toe. Ahh much better. What do you think?
>
<P ID="signature">______________
If I could I would program!</P>
 
> PD's have always been yes men until the day they are
> no longer there.

Agree with most of what's been said here, but the above is simply not true. It is true that the GM and PD have always had to get along, but some of us remember when GMs actually had local authority, and if they were smart, hired hot PDs to run the on-air stuff. Take KRBE in the 80s...nothing corporate there, just killer programming backed up by hip management. THAT is gone. Even the local GM has no say anymore--it's all corporate handed-down battle plans (if one can call them that.) PDs, whether they have experience, ability or not, only get to execute whatever idiot plan upper management has decided on. This may indeed be how Fortune 500 companies all work--I don't know, since I've always been in radio. It would explain why The Sharper Image is The Point of retailers, I guess. For the sake of our country I can only pray that most companies are not operated like today's radio. And I pray that we don't let these wretched groups own even more stations in one market, because independent competition is the only thing that can save us. And believe me, put any good PD up against any of the corporate-run stations--any format--and that corporate bag of (edit) is going down!
 
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