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Clear Channel in SF

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1069_KIFR

Which stations will be sold off. The headline at the home page reads, "CC to spin stations in SF, Las Vegas, Houston, Cincy"
I know the CC stations in San Jose have been discussed before on this board. But since they are saying SF and not SJ, I wonder who will be sold?!
 
The way I read it...all of them in SF.

It didn't say some (though it didn't maybe read as all, either).

But I am thinking CC will have to be complete out of SF, along with Houston, and Vegas.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the San Jose stations fall under the San Francisco umbrella and will likely be the ones which are moved. Otherwise, Clear Channel is within FCC ownership guidelines in the market.
 
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If I'm not mistaken, the San Jose stations fall under the San Francisco umbrella and will likely be the ones which are moved. Otherwise, Clear Channel is within FCC ownership guidelines in the market.
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I too think it'll be the SJ stations. I can't see them selling the prime real estate and keeping the in-law units.
 
problem is - the new owners of CC have interests in other stations in the bay area...

so who knows which stations will be spun to keep competition...um..."fair".

:p
 
I agree, but the issue is not the cap of statons, it is the fact that Bain and Co. own a % of some of the other groups in the market (Cumulus, Univision I think as well).

So to me it is about selling the CC stations to avoid conflict of interest, not about market share.
 
Selling the San Jose properities still leaves Bain & Company as owners of San Francisco stations run by two groups: Clear Channel and Cumulus. I think this is what the DOJ is saying cannot happen. This ruling may mean that both the San Jose and San Francisco stations must not be owned or run by Clear Channel.
 
The Wall Street Journal is saying, "In both Las Vegas and San Francisco, the company must sell a Spanish language station."
 
Here's the actual press release from the Department of Justice:

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/February/08_at_115.html

Paragraph 3 is the kicker:

The divestitures are required to assure continued competition in markets where the transaction would otherwise result in a significant loss of competition. ... Clear Channel and Univision own competing Spanish-language radio stations in Houston, Las Vegas and San Francisco. THL and Bain’s acquisition of a controlling interest in Clear Channel—combined with their existing ownership interests in Cumulus and THL’s ownership interest in Univision—gives them the incentive and the ability to reduce competition between Clear Channel and Cumulus and/or Univision. ... Under the terms of the proposed settlement, Clear Channel must divest stations in Cincinnati, Houston, Las Vegas and San Francisco to buyers approved by the Department’s Antitrust Division.

The way it reads to me is that the DOJ is not saying that CC must divest ALL of its San Francisco stations, just the ones that compete in "Spanish-language" -- which is, of course, not a format.

What then would stop CC from selling one Spanish-language station, then, after this transaction is complete, flipping one of their other stations to a Spanish-language format of some sort?

DJ
 
weav said:
1069_KIFR said:
OR flip the spanish stations to polka or something and keep em all!
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Ya, sure, they'll make a bundle programming Polka in the San Jose market.

A one and a two...
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Hey, watch that! One of my favorite shows on the old (old old) KLOK was the daily Polka Party show, right before Joaquin Esteeves delivered the news in Portuguese and the fruit frost report!

That's how I got my taste for Frankie Yankovic (no relation to Al, though they once did play together). Thanks to Polka Party (is this kind of show always named Polka Party?) I can now tell the difference between a polka and an oberek.

If a Bay Area station decided to play polkas I'd definitely assign a preset to it.
 
David Kaye:

You crack me up! I started in radio at the age of 15 at WICH in Norwich, CN. Every wedensday night we had "The Polka Party"

.....it's STILL on!

Yeah, I actually liked that stuff. I guess you could call it the Polish Soul music.

I couldn't tell the difference between a Polka and an Oberek either...and how about a Shodish. (probably spelled wrong).

Oddly: when I did Rock and Roll record hops back in the '60s the kids often asked for a polka....and they would stomp around like a herd of elephants. It was a mind blower.

Thanks for the memories.

Jerry Gordon

KNUU Las Vegas

[email protected]
 
Hey - a kid I grew up with in LA in the 60s runs the Cable Radio Network. I don't know of any cable outlets that carry CRN in the Bay Area, but you can also stream it online. Here's a link to "Dick Sinclair's Polka Party"

http://www.crni.net/polkaparty/

Dick's show was on radio (and TV, I think) back when I was a kid, and I'm 56...so Dick must be getting on. Of course, CRN also runs George Putnam's talk show, and George is in his 90s. If you grew up in LA back then, you'll remember Putnam - the inspiration for newsman Ted Baxter on the Mary Tyler Moore show.

And don't forget that KTEH 54 runs old Lawrence Welk shows. Polka lives!
 
Lest you think I'm some heartless a-polka-ist, I want it known that I keep pestering Trevor Simpson to throw in a polka in one of his mix shows just to scare people. But does he listen to me?....
 
I'll admit to not liking them. Had a friend who played sax in a road band years ago. He had a disagreement with the famously nasty bandleader and left them in the Midwest somewhere...Ohio, maybe. Joined a polka band for 3 months, then quit. he put the sax in the case and never played again...did a dog-puppet act in Vegas for the next 20 years. For those polka fans out there, maybe you've never had to play "the Flying Dutchman" for an entire 50 minute set...
 
JEREMIAH said:
David Kaye:
You crack me up! I started in radio at the age of 15 at WICH in Norwich, CN. Every wedensday night we had "The Polka Party"
.....it's STILL on!
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Omigosh...THE Jerry Gordon! I wondered what became of you. Used to listen to you a lot on Autry's KSFO. And off this topic, I'd also wondered how you managed to use your own name with Metro Traffic when nobody else could. You must have magic powers or something. (We radio geeks notice all this stuff.)

Yeah, I actually liked that stuff. I guess you could call it the Polish Soul music.
Oddly: when I did Rock and Roll record hops back in the '60s the kids often asked for a polka....and they would stomp around like a herd of elephants. It was a mind blower.
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A longtime friend of mine, Ron Romanovsky, who used to tour internationally with much success as half of a gay singer/songwriting duo, Romanovsky & Phillips, dropped his guitar, picked up an accordion and began playing polkas a few years ago. He hasn't looked back. There is something magical about polkas.

I couldn't tell the difference between a Polka and an Oberek either...and how about a Shodish. (probably spelled wrong).
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A polka is a 2-step (a 1-2 beat) and an oberek is in fast waltz time (oom-pah-pah beat). A Shodish is sort of a slow polka with some intricate steps that I'm too clumsy to master.
 
SFStatic said:
he put the sax in the case and never played again...did a dog-puppet act in Vegas for the next 20 years.
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Hmmm....I'm booking shows in a small theatre venue. I could use a dog puppet show as a tweener.

For those polka fans out there, maybe you've never had to play "the Flying Dutchman" for an entire 50 minute set...
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In yet another life I play button accordion for rich people's parties. I can't begin to count the times I've been asked to play O Solo Mio and Beer Barrel Polka. I refuse. I prefer Hey Mister Tambourine Man and Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit. Hasn't cost me any gigs....yet.

But then polka audiences can be another story.
 
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