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ClearChannel Must sell Stations in Houston

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truthsayer

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Any word of possible buyers?

Do you think any real players will buy them?

Why would CC sell to real players and risk real competition?
 
Where did you get this info from???? Don't believe everything you hear about the "Evil Empire" It might come back and bite you in the a##
 
I looked up said company to have interest in this market. I would not be surprized if they were all sold to non English speaking format companies. This eliminates competition!
 
omega said:
Don't belive me but word on the street is that bmp has big plans for some stations in Houston.
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I don't believe you.
 
truthsayer said:
I would not be surprised if they were all sold to non English speaking format companies. This eliminates competition!
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You're assuming the language barrier exists for everyone. You would be surprised to know how many listeners of ethnic-formatted stations are multilingual. In other words they listen to mainstream stations, too. for example they may punch back and forth between KRBE and KAMA. Ethnic stations do compete with the English language stations for the listeners' time.
 
fredcantu said:
truthsayer said:
I would not be surprised if they were all sold to non English speaking format companies. This eliminates competition!
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You're assuming the language barrier exists for everyone. You would be surprised to know how many listeners of ethnic-formatted stations are multilingual. In other words they listen to mainstream stations, too. for example they may punch back and forth between KRBE and KAMA. Ethnic stations do compete with the English language stations for the listeners' time.
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True, I like to switch from Mana, Fonseca, and Nek (KHZS) to Alan Jackson, Randy Rogers Band, and Kevin Fowler (KAGG) to Kanye West, Coldplay, and Flobots (KRBE) to David Lee, Freddy Fender, and Homeown Boys (KXTN) here at my place. But that's just me, I'm weird! But I know I am not the only one that does that. I can guarantee you that every Hispanic that listened to the old version of Mega also listened to KPTY, KBXX, and KRBE.

I also know lots of Gringos who listen to Intocable, Vicente Fernandez, and Mana and these people are not multi-lingual. A handful of Gringos who are Texas Country music junkies also like to listen to Tejano. But that really has nothing to do with Fred's point. The point is that Hispanics that listen to Spanish radio are bound to switch the dial to stations like KKHH and KRBE.
 
oldjohnny said:
I can guarantee you that every Hispanic that listened to the old version of Mega also listened to KPTY, KBXX, and KRBE.
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Mostly KRBE. There is very little KLOL sharing today with KBXX and Party, and it was not much more before they changed the music mix away from reggaetón.

The point is that Hispanics that listen to Spanish radio are bound to switch the dial to stations like KKHH and KRBE.
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The nearly 60% of Houston Hispanics who are Spanish dominant rarely if ever use English language radio. Among bilinguals, there is a close balance, often favoring Spanish. Only the "mostly English" and "Only English" give lots of time to the English language stations.
 
The nearly 60% of Houston Hispanics who are Spanish dominant rarely if ever use English language radio. Among bilinguals, there is a close balance, often favoring Spanish. Only the "mostly English" and "Only English" give lots of time to the English language stations.
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I should have been a bit more clear, what I meant to say is the listeners of KAMA and KLOL. I know that listeners of KTJM won't switch to stations like KTBZ and KRBE as much as the listeners of KAMA and KLOL.
 
Spanish stations will be the norm on Houston Radio by 2012. My guess is there will only be 3 {maybe} at most English stations. The population stats will indicate the need.
 
Yeah, 2012, only 3 english stations you say? Something tells me that if you were slapped in the face today with next week's winning lotto numbers, you would still loose.
 
truthsayer said:
Spanish stations will be the norm on Houston Radio by 2012. My guess is there will only be 3 {maybe} at most English stations. The population stats will indicate the need.
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Just to test this theory, what stations would those be and exactly how would they fill the needs of this nation's No. 5 market? There are a lot of Spanish speaking folks in this town, but it'll be more than four years from now - if ever - when they dominate this area to that extent.
 
schmave said:
truthsayer said:
Spanish stations will be the norm on Houston Radio by 2012. My guess is there will only be 3 {maybe} at most English stations. The population stats will indicate the need.
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Just to test this theory, what stations would those be and exactly how would they fill the needs of this nation's No. 5 market? There are a lot of Spanish speaking folks in this town, but it'll be more than four years from now - if ever - when they dominate this area to that extent.
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Spanish dominance will never happen. Many first generation Hispanics in the US are the only ones that hold Spanish as their dominant language. Usually, their off-springs will be bi-lingual, and their off-springs will likely loose a lot of spanish language influence. It has happened with allmost all of the European immigrants, and it will happen with all the Latin American Immigrants.
 
Don't forget many young people from Latin America grew up hearing English pop songs on the radio. Will they listen to the mainstream pop stations in Houston or stick with the ones where the jocks speak their language?
 
fredcantu said:
Don't forget many young people from Latin America grew up hearing English pop songs on the radio. Will they listen to the mainstream pop stations in Houston or stick with the ones where the jocks speak their language?
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In general, and of course subject to exceptions, those young people tend to be middle and upper socioeconomic class (A, B and C+) and among the most unlikely to leave their culture, family, friends and overall environment.
 
Slap my face! YES!

Maybe 3 is a bit low but my point stands. Kids are less and less listening to the radio. Ipod rules! Pay for Radio will grow I believe. Upscale America will buy in to Pay radio thus fewer listeners to Free Radio. Whites are not procreating at the percentage as Hispanics. That's not a racist comment it is a fact.

I hope I am wrong!

Now slap my face one more time. THANKS!

Do you have a lite?
 
truthsayer said:
Slap my face! YES!

Maybe 3 is a bit low but my point stands. Kids are less and less listening to the radio. Ipod rules! Pay for Radio will grow I believe. Upscale America will buy in to Pay radio thus fewer listeners to Free Radio. Whites are not procreating at the percentage as Hispanics. That's not a racist comment it is a fact.

I hope I am wrong!

Now slap my face one more time. THANKS!

Do you have a lite?
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Tell me, what are the exact numbers and under what assumption are you making your conclusion. Or give me the link to your assumption. What makes you think Hispanics won't buy into Satellite radio in the future? Maybe XM-Sirius will one day look into creating an Hispanic Package for Satellite Radio. Sounds like a good idea to me.
A Duranguense channel
A Norteno channel
A Rock en espanol
A Pop en Espanol
A Ranchera channel
A Salsa channel
A Reggeton channel
and the list could go on. You have a wide variety of choices for Spanish language programming just as you do for english (remember, spanish is not format). ESPN Deportes and maybe a Hot Talk en Espanol. Have the equivalent of Howard Stern (Mhh, I think that is Luis Jimenez). The question is, would this be a good idea for XM-Sirius? Is there any money to be made from this? I wouldn't know, but sounds like an intriguing venture for satellite radio to me.
One thing that is for shure is that you are over exaggerating the future of Houston radio.

Slap in the face twice? We wouldn't want you to loose the lotto twice now do we?
 
Dear Old John,

I like your arguement but the fact is Houston Radio is moving this direction already. This is a sad reality that unless a massive change occurs in the marketplace we will see this. John, I did re-think the number 3 and would like to change this number to 5 English. In politics this is known has a {FLIP}.

Hispanics will own XM and other such media out there. The word UPSCALE includes all races.

Now SLAP ME it's been a hard day and a long time.
 
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