WQAL, WDOK, and WFHM (yes, they are Christian AC) have each said goodbye to one jock on either middays (John Connor for WQAL) or afternoons (Dan Deely for WDOK and Chris Fox for WDOK). WQAL has already hired Rob Kruz for evenings to replace Tim Richards, who took over for John on middays. WFHM tapped Josh Booth to take over afternoons. WDOK is still looking. What are your thoughts?
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Uggh. Message Board Etiquette 101 is now in session.\CleveFan said:
If you're going to initiate a thread on something like this, how about sharing YOUR thoughts as well. And since this is your first post, that just makes people suspicious... :
Okay, I think all those changes stink. John was a great personality and really gave Q104 a great sound overall. I don't know why they didn't keep him, but I wish him well. Dan was also great on The Fish and they way he was pulled off the air was bull. Same with Chris at WDOK. It's a shame that, while John was able to say goodbye, Dan and Chris weren't.
It's seems to be a matter of freshing up those stations' sound.
Also, is it that important to give opinions to every message I post. I was simply just asking opinions, but I don't always have to give mine. I don't like being singled out.
It's seems to be a matter of freshing up those stations' sound.
Also, is it that important to give opinions to every message I post. I was simply just asking opinions, but I don't always have to give mine. I don't like being singled out.
I think that maybe Dan Deely was too old for his target audience.
74WIXYGrad said:
And Alan Freed wasn't?
I guess stations will have to start hiring 16 year olds but they won't be able to work late on a school night!
Age discimination is illegal.
Deeley landed at WDOK, which should be an excellent gig for him. And for the record, there is a difference between being old and sounding old. Remember, radio is theatre of the mind. You can be 101 but if you sound like you're 25 the audience will never know.
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Is Jay Lynn still on WQAL? He was there even back in it's easy listening days.
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I believe they got rid of Jay Lynn about 5-6 years ago.
My favorite Jay moment...I heard him talk up a record with the weather (I think it was Sugar Ray's "Fly," if I can remember). He got part way through "today" before stepping on the post. He waited until the next instrumental break and continued through "tomorrow," stepped on some more vocals, waited for another instrumental break, and finished (still stepping on vocals at the end). Priceless...
Almost as good as Bob Friend on MJI talking up "Papa Was a Rolling Stone" by reading the on-air/board-op schedule and shift times. The list included non-airstaff board ops and air staff's ACTUAL names (most of which were mispronounced). It was an internal memo...made beautifully external. I know Dwayne Robinson, Scott Howard, Chuck Gregg, Nick TAH-Zee, Dan Zullo, Shannon Krow-stick, Andy Pah-pul, and me, Jesse Hayes, appreciated the plugs.)
Age matters (like in the cases above) when you can't hold it together and bring the numbers. If you've got a name, though, you gotta get pretty "up there" before age, itself, becomes the issue. Elvis Duran, Casey Kasem, Rick Dees, Kurt Loder (MTV News), etc...
My favorite Jay moment...I heard him talk up a record with the weather (I think it was Sugar Ray's "Fly," if I can remember). He got part way through "today" before stepping on the post. He waited until the next instrumental break and continued through "tomorrow," stepped on some more vocals, waited for another instrumental break, and finished (still stepping on vocals at the end). Priceless...
Almost as good as Bob Friend on MJI talking up "Papa Was a Rolling Stone" by reading the on-air/board-op schedule and shift times. The list included non-airstaff board ops and air staff's ACTUAL names (most of which were mispronounced). It was an internal memo...made beautifully external. I know Dwayne Robinson, Scott Howard, Chuck Gregg, Nick TAH-Zee, Dan Zullo, Shannon Krow-stick, Andy Pah-pul, and me, Jesse Hayes, appreciated the plugs.
)Age matters (like in the cases above) when you can't hold it together and bring the numbers. If you've got a name, though, you gotta get pretty "up there" before age, itself, becomes the issue. Elvis Duran, Casey Kasem, Rick Dees, Kurt Loder (MTV News), etc...
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Age never meant anything in radio, if you are good, you had the job. For example, Bill Gordon, Bill Randle, Carl Reese, Phil McClain, Norm Nite, Casey Kasem, Joe Finan were still getting radio jobs after the age of 50, and you can't leave out Cleveland Dean of radio Wayne Mack who worked 68 straight years on the air in Cleveland radio. If your good, and you have a voice for radio and can create that picture in someone's mind, you have the job and will remain on the air. These people all entertained us.
JesseJames:
Bob Friend did WHAT on WMJI?
He used to be so good, what happened? Why would anybody try to walk up that long long l-o-n-g intro unless you were reading a PSA or promo or something.
Bob Friend goes way back in personality AM rock radio and should have had better chops. Was he just losing it by the MJI days?
Bob Friend did WHAT on WMJI?
He used to be so good, what happened? Why would anybody try to walk up that long long l-o-n-g intro unless you were reading a PSA or promo or something.
Bob Friend goes way back in personality AM rock radio and should have had better chops. Was he just losing it by the MJI days?
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jessejames44
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Yeah...he basically read the control room operator schedule for the week. It started out a solid break! It was when we first got the Browns (99) and we had to include "the home of the Cleveland Browns" in every break. Well, he did...then ad-libbed something about us also being the home of the greatest tunes of the 50's and 60's...that led to him saying "and we're the home of Lanigan and Malone in the morning, with Chip Kullik (which was mispronounced), and Mark Munch Bishop (Doc was left out, which made for good teasing later, as Doc was about the ONLY air-staff member he didn't mention). THAT led to him picking up the control room operator schedule that was laying next to him and...well, like I said...he just started reading it...saying "AND the home of Dwayne (his pronunciation) Robinson, Scott Howard (again, his pronunciation), etc, etc. Thus the reason he read Chuck and my "real" names and included board ops. It was as if he got so far along in that marathon intro, that he just wanted to finish the race and needed SOMETHING to complete the thought.
Bob was an absolute sweetheart of a man...LOVED having him take the board after me. Never heard him say a bad thing about anyone...minus the time I heard him curse the reel to reel from down the hall, lol. Though his LONG talk up was one of those "KRUD Radio" moments and provided for some entertaining, and sometimes exaggerated, stories (i.e. reading off the entire log's worth of artists, etc)...it was kind of a signal that Bob had slowed a bit. The more I think about it, though...I don't think AGE was the biggest factor. Bob DID slow down some and WAS a little out of his element from time to time, but...Bob was only there on Sunday mornings...that's it. He was out of touch with the station. An OCB grad could've easily made the same mistake. Just grasping at straws for SOMETHING to say when you missed your "exit." Know your subject ahead of time, ya know? We've all done it.
Ya gotta give it up for Bob, ol' man Lanigan, Scott Howitt, etc...they all learned the new technology of "Prophet" just like the rest of us. The Buddy-O Scottster STILL ran a tighter board than anyone I had ever seen! Bob HAD slowed, BUT...I think if he was on every day on a "music of your life-type" format, he would've been just as good, if not better than, the rest of us!
Bob was an absolute sweetheart of a man...LOVED having him take the board after me. Never heard him say a bad thing about anyone...minus the time I heard him curse the reel to reel from down the hall, lol. Though his LONG talk up was one of those "KRUD Radio" moments and provided for some entertaining, and sometimes exaggerated, stories (i.e. reading off the entire log's worth of artists, etc)...it was kind of a signal that Bob had slowed a bit. The more I think about it, though...I don't think AGE was the biggest factor. Bob DID slow down some and WAS a little out of his element from time to time, but...Bob was only there on Sunday mornings...that's it. He was out of touch with the station. An OCB grad could've easily made the same mistake. Just grasping at straws for SOMETHING to say when you missed your "exit." Know your subject ahead of time, ya know? We've all done it.
Ya gotta give it up for Bob, ol' man Lanigan, Scott Howitt, etc...they all learned the new technology of "Prophet" just like the rest of us. The Buddy-O Scottster STILL ran a tighter board than anyone I had ever seen! Bob HAD slowed, BUT...I think if he was on every day on a "music of your life-type" format, he would've been just as good, if not better than, the rest of us!
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Mike Sheridan said:
Alan Freed?? Maybe there is a more contemporary example.
However I do agree with you completely. Alan only lived to be 43.
But he was able to connect with those younger than him...which is the key!
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jessejames44
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As a side note...I know a lot of people who started when they were 16-18 yrs old...
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