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May as well complete the trifecta and do the TV stations.

I will just be talking about the local aspects of the stations.

WKYC-NBC
Good block of syndicated shows (headed by Dr. Phil, Ellen, and Entertainment Tonight).

Top notch news department, solid weather team, and Jim Donovan is the King of Cleveland Sports Media (TV 3 sports director, Browns radio, and probably Indians TV)

Thinks outside the box with newscasts, (11am and 7 pm instead of traditional noon and 5 pm.)

Getting the Tribe is a major coup.

"The Point After" is must watch for Browns fans.


WEWS-ABC
Has the top line syndicated shows (Regis, Oprah, Wheel, and Jeopardy)

Good newsteam (Ted Henry and Lee Jordan are now the longest running current anchor duo in Cleveland--12 years as of '06)

Has found stability in weather and sports.


WJW-FOX
After rocky transition, found it's footing as a FOX affiliate.

Excellent morning show.

Bill Martin and Stacey Bell are worthy succesors to Tim Taylor and Wilma Smith.

Tim and Wilma are being allowed to ease out gracefully.

Dick Goddard=legend, Tony Rizzo is aces on sports.

The "Judge Judy" led courtroom shows during the day beat out WUAB and WBNX in daytime.


WOIO-CBS
Whoa, boy.

Their newscasts have been a revolving door of formats and personalities since becoming CBS in 1994.

Only Denise Dufala has been there from the start.

Remember the 2 woman experiment in 1997?

For better or worse, seems to has found itself as "19 Action News".

Has second tier syndicated shows padding out daytime.

Home of the Browns--and they won't let you forget it either.


WVIZ-PBS
Only 3 things are certain in life:
Death, taxes, and channel 25 being a top PBS station nationally.

WUAB-UPN
A former top independant station, 43 now looks like a cookie cutter UPN station.

Home of the Cavaliers, which is a plus.

Definitly the "little brother" in the Raycom duopoly.

Pretty much cedes Sundays to WOIO by only having infomercials and "Best of Johnny Carson" reruns till 5pm.


WBNX-WB
Take away Ernest Angley, and is pretty much an assembly line WB station.

It's funny watching 55 try to stay true to their roots by censoring what shows they can, but letting others slide because they have no control over them.

Has by far the best weekend schedule, especially compared to 43.


WQHS-Univision
Why?

Cleveland is not exactly a prime market for serving the Spanish community.

Would be better off (in my opinion) as an "old school" independant station.

A few current shows + a good helping of oldies + THE GHOUL would give my 61 a retro/kitchy feel and would go over better in the market as a whole.
 
> WOIO-CBS
> Whoa, boy.
>
> Their newscasts have been a revolving door of formats and
> personalities since becoming CBS in 1994.

And imaging, too. Remember "Cleveland Television News?" (The disasterous first incarnation of the 19/43 news duopoly in 1995) Or "Hometown 19/Hometown 43?"

> Only Denise Dufala has been there from the start.
>
> Remember the 2 woman experiment in 1997?

Not that I would feel bad for Gretchen Carlson - she is, IIRC, now an anchorette for Fox News Channel.

> For better or worse, seems to has found itself as "19 Action
> News".
>
> Has second tier syndicated shows padding out daytime.
>
> Home of the Browns--and they won't let you forget it either.


> WUAB-UPN
> A former top independant station, 43 now looks like a cookie
> cutter UPN station.

Well, it HAS "19 Action News" at 10:00 PM! What would you expect?

> Home of the Cavaliers, which is a plus.

But lost the Indians in 2001. UPN never will fill that void AT ALL.

> Definitly the "little brother" in the Raycom duopoly.
>
> Pretty much cedes Sundays to WOIO by only having
> infomercials and "Best of Johnny Carson" reruns till 5pm.


> WQHS-Univision
> Why?
>
> Cleveland is not exactly a prime market for serving the
> Spanish community.

Univision got the station as a part of a nationwide HSN sell-off. It was nothing more that a throw-away - and Cleveland is not only not a "prime market," but is one of the smallest Hispanic markets in THE NATION. And that's with the small ethnic pockets in Cleveland and South Lorain.

> Would be better off (in my opinion) as an "old school"
> independant station.
>
> A few current shows + a good helping of oldies + THE GHOUL
> would give my 61 a retro/kitchy feel and would go over
> better in the market as a whole.
 
Re: OT/Cleveland TV

> WUAB-UPN
> A former top independant station, 43 now looks like a cookie
> cutter UPN station.
>
> Home of the Cavaliers, which is a plus.
>
> Definitly the "little brother" in the Raycom duopoly.
>
> Pretty much cedes Sundays to WOIO by only having
> infomercials and "Best of Johnny Carson" reruns till 5pm.

It's a shame what has happened to this channel.

> WBNX-WB
> Take away Ernest Angley, and is pretty much an assembly line
> WB station.
>
> It's funny watching 55 try to stay true to their roots by
> censoring what shows they can, but letting others slide
> because they have no control over them.
>
> Has by far the best weekend schedule, especially compared to
> 43.

This station is what WUAB used to be. Now if WBNX would just broadcast in stereo.

>
> WQHS-Univision
> Why?
>
> Cleveland is not exactly a prime market for serving the
> Spanish community.
>
> Would be better off (in my opinion) as an "old school"
> independant station.

Actually, the NE Ohio market is very much prime for this station. Putting Univision on 61 was a good move. Anything else would've been a money losing venture.
 
Ummmm....

In case we've forgotten, this is a RADIO board. I do let the occasional TV thread go, but that's not an open invite to start talking shop about TV in general and creating multiple threads (which is why the thread about TV61 was deleted).

Yeah, yeah yeah...this board is slow yada yada yada. It's also the holidays -- not much happens.

Keep it to radio, please.
 
Re: Ummmm....

> In case we've forgotten, this is a RADIO board. I do let
> the occasional TV thread go, but that's not an open invite
> to start talking shop about TV in general and creating
> multiple threads (which is why the thread about TV61 was
> deleted).
>
> Yeah, yeah yeah...this board is slow yada yada yada. It's
> also the holidays -- not much happens.
>
> Keep it to radio, please.
>

Oh, let us have our fun. It's good to hear people's thoughts about TV in Cleveland. TV IS radio... with pictures! It's not like the board is clogged with TV posts. If people are truely bothered by TV posts, they can choose not to read the thread. Or here's an idea, add a Cleveland TV area. I know I'd visit to see what people are saying.

Please, the FCC is bad enough, we don't want censorship here!

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Igor
www.IgorRadio.com</P>
 
Re: Ummmm....

> Oh, let us have our fun. It's good to hear people's thoughts
> about TV in Cleveland. TV IS radio... with pictures!

You clearly missed the point/part where I mentioned the part about creating multiple threads about TV.


> It's
> not like the board is clogged with TV posts.

That's not the point.


> If people are
> truely bothered by TV posts, they can choose not to read the
> thread.

That's not the point, either.

Or here's an idea, add a Cleveland TV area.

Ummm, no! Then we'd have to create a TV board for every market.


> I know
> I'd visit to see what people are saying.

Cleveland.com has a pretty pathetic TV forum.

> Please, the FCC is bad enough, we don't want censorship
> here!

Aw geez Edith, not this again. I am not gonna bother explaining censorship to someone who should know when and when it does NOT apply.

Case closed.
 
Just One Man's Opinion

This comes up from time to time here.

I don't see what the problem is. Local TV has pretty much always been considered to be on-topic here.

And by "local TV", I mean stuff like local stations' operations, news departments, and other local programming. Obviously, stuff like network and syndicated programming is off-topic here.

One big reason local TV should be on-topic here is the cross-pollinization of personalities across radio and TV - i.e. people like Bob Golic, both on WNIR/100.1 and WOIO/19...former WTAM traffic reporter Rick Abell, now on 19...Tony Rizzo, WJW/8 sportscaster who's done much radio, etc. And the local news/programming operations of area TV stations are similar to radio news/programming.

But, this is the first time the moderators here have really had even the smallest problem with any TV-related talk on this board. As XL noted, TV threads are generally left alone here. I'm guessing XL doesn't wanna see thread after thread about "Survivor" or the Thursday night NBC lineup...

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
Re: Ummmm....

> > Please, the FCC is bad enough, we don't want censorship
> > here!
>
> Aw geez Edith, not this again. I am not gonna bother
> explaining censorship to someone who should know when and
> when it does NOT apply.
>
Bit of trivia: Annually, the FCC disallows (or finds no basis for) almost 3 times the number of obscenity complaints than they allow.

Thanks, XL. People who are not parrotting Howard "Well, now I have no schtik since I've moved to Sirius" Stern know what censorship IS and what the FCC's for: Don't paint the walls purple if the landlord told you not to in the lease.

-Brady (at work)
 
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