CNN down to 25,000 viewers?

[DToTheJ]

Anderson "Tea Bags" Cooper...

Take it outside. ;D

 

[BRNout]

Anderson "Tea Bags" Cooper...

Take it outside. ;D

You're right D, I am already putting on my jacket....but I just couldn't resist!

 

[koolestcat]

CNN were hoping for a Tsunami in Hawaii on the weekend but that didn't happen either. They only have decent numbers during disasters.

As for Anderson Cooper CBS would do them a favor to hire the guy away.

CNN should have probably kept Lou Dobbs, not let Glenn Beck go, dumped Cooper and Campbell Brown, retired Larry King. Then come up with a new fresh lineup of shows with Dobbs and Beck doing a revamped format from what they used to, picked up (ie buy) someone from other networks like Morning Joe Scarborough on MSNBC and/or Megyn Kelly from FOX. Keep Wolf during the day but basically clean everything else up.

Not sure about Sanchez but he definitely needs a talking to. The way he treated that geologist during the tsunami show on the weekend was definitely bush league TV and then he topped it off with a comment about the Yin and the Yang of Ocean Waves. It was priceless and if run in its entirety, untouched on SNL would look like a good parody on goofs on TV.

 

[YEKIMI]

I'm talking about taking it to a much higher level, even combining their name when it comes to the news

such as CBSNN? It would have to be that because I don't think CNNBS would fly to well except maybe for hoots & hollers of laughter.

 

[YEKIMI]

but I guess it could also be CBCNN or CNCBS but that just makes them sound like some funky spin-off of NCIS.

 

[searadiofreak]

but I guess it could also be CBCNN or CNCBS but that just makes them sound like some funky spin-off of NCIS.

Well, I'm not sure what they would call it, but BRNout hit it on the head. This is the future of TV news. Outsourcing brands to the cable nets. Maybe "CNN, powered by CBS News", or even the reverse, "CBS News, powered by CNN". Perhaps both could be used at the same time, who knows? Things will be changing in the next 5-10 years, there is no question.

 

[mescutia]

I would think the obvious thing for CNN to do would be to stop competing with itself and merge with HLN, taking the best from each channel and dropping the rest like dead fish.

 

[DToTheJ]

I predict at some point, the morning shows on CNN and HLN will merge and simulcast on both networks... can you say Robin Meade on CNN primetime?

 

[DToTheJ]

CNN should have probably kept Lou Dobbs, not let Glenn Beck go, dumped Cooper and Campbell Brown, retired Larry King. Then come up with a new fresh lineup of shows with Dobbs and Beck doing a revamped format from what they used to..

You have to admit, at least on FOX News, Beck is "in his element". :

 

[LKellerIII]

CNN were hoping for a Tsunami in Hawaii on the weekend but that didn't happen either. They only have decent numbers during disasters.

As for Anderson Cooper CBS would do them a favor to hire the guy away.

CNN should have probably kept Lou Dobbs, not let Glenn Beck go, dumped Cooper and Campbell Brown, retired Larry King. Then come up with a new fresh lineup of shows with Dobbs and Beck doing a revamped format from what they used to, picked up (ie buy) someone from other networks like Morning Joe Scarborough on MSNBC and/or Megyn Kelly from FOX. Keep Wolf during the day but basically clean everything else up.

Not sure about Sanchez but he definitely needs a talking to. The way he treated that geologist during the tsunami show on the weekend was definitely bush league TV and then he topped it off with a comment about the Yin and the Yang of Ocean Waves. It was priceless and if run in its entirety, untouched on SNL would look like a good parody on goofs on TV.

I disagree about Dobbs and Beck. We don't need another Fox News. I doubt it would help CNN anyway - Fox News is better at being itself than CNN could ever be.

I agree about Sanchez. He comes off as uninformed and clueless. He's not very articulate, either. I realize some viewers might like his "regular guy" personna, but I find it irritating. I want my news anchors to be more informed and better spoken than me, not worse. And I ususally don't find deep voices irritaing, but his voice and vocal mannerisms are really grating.

 

[EZway2go]

I was trying to remember if they were a straight newcast back in the days of Bernard Shaw on CNN and Lynne Russell on Headline News, or if they had the opinion panels and commentary they seem to have now. I can remember watching Bernard Shaw every night during the first Gulf War, but now I never really consider watching CNN and especially HLN. Times have changed indeed.

 

[searadiofreak]

I was trying to remember if they were a straight newcast back in the days of Bernard Shaw on CNN and Lynne Russell on Headline News, or if they had the opinion panels and commentary they seem to have now. I can remember watching Bernard Shaw every night during the first Gulf War, but now I never really consider watching CNN and especially HLN. Times have changed indeed.

CNN had perhaps fewer of these type of panel shows, but they almost invented the confrontational left vs. right format with "Crossfire" in the early 80's, first hosted by Tom Braden and Pat Buchanan, and later Robert Novak and others. It was the first time I remember people yelling at each other on this type of show.

 

[BRNout]

I was trying to remember if they were a straight newcast back in the days of Bernard Shaw on CNN and Lynne Russell on Headline News, or if they had the opinion panels and commentary they seem to have now. I can remember watching Bernard Shaw every night during the first Gulf War, but now I never really consider watching CNN and especially HLN. Times have changed indeed.

CNN had perhaps fewer of these type of panel shows, but they almost invented the confrontational left vs. right format with "Crossfire" in the early 80's, first hosted by Tom Braden and Pat Buchanan, and later Robert Novak and others. It was the first time I remember people yelling at each other on this type of show.

Almost is the key word. Prior to Crossfire, there was The McLaughlin Report. Crossfire was basically a freshened version of the TMR concept. And, let's not forget the Point/Counterpoint segments on 60 Minutes back in the 70s, which often were so contentious that early SNL parodied it with Dan Aykroyd's signature line: "Jane, you ignorant slut!"

 

[JeeperOne]

Wow,Thats all.How will CNN will live on that.It's sad to see Ted's channel going down the drain.They have to do something to reorganize the programming and get their priorities ironed out.
there is to many talk shows on the channel personally what I see.

Which is why I was FLOORED when I saw that Wolf Blitzer got YET ANOTHER hour - 7 PM ET - for his Situation Room program (Like there's anything new beyond The Cafferty File??) in lieu of John Roberts, who could just as easily do what Lou (In his own unique way) did when he was at CNN - ANCHOR A NEWSCAST.

If they don't wanna put John Roberts on at 7 PM ET, then FOR GODS SAKE give Rick Sanchez HIS OWN hour on weekdays instead of making him split time with Don Lemon on CNN Newsroom. At least Rick Sanchez would be able to lure viewers from FNC & Shepherd Smith WITHOUT boring people (Something that can't be said for Wolf Blitzer OR Chris Matthews).

BTW.....This is coming from one of THE STAUCHIEST supporter of MSNBC too.

Just my opinion.....

Cheers

 

[searadiofreak]

No worries, the way things are going there will be another complete shakeup at CNN before the summer. It's par for the course with this network.

Right now, I am noticing that they are trying to brand themselves as the "breaking news" channel, which is fine, except when we start to see stories branded as such that aren't really. Then it gets pathetic.

 

[JeeperOne]

(Personal opinion: when news reporters and anchors "spin" the news in a certain direction and drift from the facts of the story, that counts as "opinion" in my book, and opinion has no place in a news operation unless you label it as such (a throwback to the early days of news).

Which is what Rick Sanchez does (And does well I might add). He's CNN's answer to Keith Olbermann (MSNBC) & Bill O'Really (FOX Noise). Not only that but Edward R. Murrow used to be opinion-driven back in his day as was WALTER CRONKITE back in his day.

Today's journalists are no different than their predecessors of yesteryear. They just have different (As one person put itin this thread) "Toys" in which to do it.

Just my opinion.....

Cheers

 

[JeeperOne]

I would think the obvious thing for CNN to do would be to stop competing with itself and merge with HLN, taking the best from each channel and dropping the rest like dead fish.

Speaking of combining networks, I bet The CW gets better ratings than HLN does.

Thoughts?

Cheers

 

[sandiegoinexile]

HLN

I bet The CW gets better ratings than HLN does. Thoughts? Cheers

That's sorta like saying that an apple is better than a potato. CW programs a whopping 10 hours a week. HLN programs 24 hours a day.

The average CW rating (for their two hours) amounts to about 2.1M viewers (.7 rating X 2.90M per rating point). An average HLN day is about 300,000 viewers.

The top two hours of HLN primetime are Nancy Grace and Joy Behar, which regularly get 500,000 viewers. Even the lowest CW shows (Melrose/90210) get at least 600,000 viewers.

CW: http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/nielsen-network-tv-ratings-season-to-date
HLN: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_thursday_mar_4_154183.asp#more

Of course, the CW only cares about how many females age 12-24 are watching. That's their target demo for advertisors. HLN targets the 25-54 female.

 

[Ultimajock]

And [Anderson Cooper] already does pieces for 60 Minutes.

...as has Christiane Amanpour...

 

[koolestcat]

Some interesting numbers for Cable News......

CABLE NEWS RACE
TUES, MARCH 9, 2010

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,499,000
FOXNEWS BECK 3,406,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,901,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,686,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 2,243,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,027,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,004,000
MSNBC MADDOW 994,000
CNNHN BEHAR 785,000
CNN KING 699,000
CNN COOPER 582,000

As you can see CNN continues to scrape the bottom of the barrel and thats with the shows that are mentioned. I would hate to see the shows that were not mentioned.

Hannity must be p'd off at Beck's numbers. When you consider that Beck's show is nowhere near primetime on the west coast and that he is early prime on the east coast he did incredibly well. Hannity and OReilly have the best slots on FOX both east and west coast.