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One way to attract more male viewers is to replace Wolf Blitzer with either Carol Costello or better yet Robin Meade. ;D
On a more serious note, I'm not surprised that CNN ranks 4th place in the 25-54 age catagory. Fox has all the right-wingers; MSNBC the Obama lovers, and Jon Stewart everyone from the age of 18 through 65.
One does have to ask how does CNN fare when it comes to an audience made up of 54 + ? Those are the people who tend to watch TV news, even though advertisers shun them.
On a more serious note, I'm not surprised that CNN ranks 4th place in the 25-54 age catagory. Fox has all the right-wingers; MSNBC the Obama lovers, and Jon Stewart everyone from the age of 18 through 65.
One does have to ask how does CNN fare when it comes to an audience made up of 54 + ? Those are the people who tend to watch TV news, even though advertisers shun them.
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I still maintain that CNN does the best job of the cable networks being mostly neutral with little political slant. MSNBC, and to some extent, Fox, have a perceived bias. In the case of MSNBC, they wear it on their sleeve.
Evidently this is what the audience wants. To be extreme is to be successful, to be moderate is to lose. I find that disturbing.
Anderson Cooper is one of the best anchor/reporters on cable. Wolf Blitzer, Jon King, and Campbell Brown are all capable. Larry King may have lost a little of his edge, but I still tune in just about every evening to see what he is talking about. I'm not sure what more CNN can do. I have noticed more raucus panel discussions lately, perhaps taking the attitude if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Evidently this is what the audience wants. To be extreme is to be successful, to be moderate is to lose. I find that disturbing.
Anderson Cooper is one of the best anchor/reporters on cable. Wolf Blitzer, Jon King, and Campbell Brown are all capable. Larry King may have lost a little of his edge, but I still tune in just about every evening to see what he is talking about. I'm not sure what more CNN can do. I have noticed more raucus panel discussions lately, perhaps taking the attitude if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Fox most definitely has a bias t words the right. Hannity. O'Riely . At least MSNBC has Scarborough
and Buchanen to balance things out. As for cnn? They're hosts outside of Anderson Cooper seem pretty bland. They definitely could use some fresh blood. The way Rachel Maddow (like her or hate her) breathed some life into a listing msnbc.
and Buchanen to balance things out. As for cnn? They're hosts outside of Anderson Cooper seem pretty bland. They definitely could use some fresh blood. The way Rachel Maddow (like her or hate her) breathed some life into a listing msnbc.
searadiofreak said:
I have to disagree with the assessment of the CNN personality lineup. Wolf Blitzer is arguably one of the least-talented reporters out there when it comes to the kind of time slots and gigs he gets on that network. There's an old adage in broadcast news...we "show", not "tell". Yet every time I turn on CNN during a Blitzer show, there's good ol' Wolf telling me exactly what I'm about to see or have just seen ("a tragic scene there"..."a very interesting speech from"...etc). This guy must blow through every commonly-used adjective in the dictionary each time he's on the air. Why not just show people by using verbs, and letting images and news stand up under its own merits. Blitzer isn't that good; of course, in the realm of cable news he's in the upper echelon, so in that regard I'll agree with you.
The other folks--Cooper, King, Brown--c'mon. They are there for one reason and one reason only: Sex appeal. Every cable news network is bringin' in the hotties these days...CNN just happens to be able to get some reporters that have slightly better experience and delivery style than, by comparison, the weekend blondes on FNC. Just look at the age desparity between the anchors CNN had 10 years ago and the ones they have today, for example. Judy Woodruff, Bernard Shaw...those days are long gone.
Sister network HLN (former Headline News) is now beating CNN. When your smaller sibling is kicking your rear end...you have issues.
The big problem is the 8 PM time slot, with Nancy Grace, Keith Olbermann, and O'Reilly as the competition. Larry King still gets a good audience (although in that undesirable demographic). They need to move Larry King to 8 PM for a bit and see how it fares. If it tanks...the show can go back to 9 PM with little to no damage.
Another option is Anderson Cooper at 8 PM.
Or...fight fire with fire. Move CNN's sole opinion show...Lou Dobbs...to 8 PM. An opinion show may be CNN's only hope at that time slot.
Or...dare I say it...Katie Couric? Of course...the last time CNN did this with Connie Chung...it backfired.
Bottom line...CNN needs a powerhouse show at 8 PM. Campbell Brown cannot deliver the goods. It will take someone already established in TV news (either at CNN or elsewhere) to get that time slot back.
The big problem is the 8 PM time slot, with Nancy Grace, Keith Olbermann, and O'Reilly as the competition. Larry King still gets a good audience (although in that undesirable demographic). They need to move Larry King to 8 PM for a bit and see how it fares. If it tanks...the show can go back to 9 PM with little to no damage.
Another option is Anderson Cooper at 8 PM.
Or...fight fire with fire. Move CNN's sole opinion show...Lou Dobbs...to 8 PM. An opinion show may be CNN's only hope at that time slot.
Or...dare I say it...Katie Couric? Of course...the last time CNN did this with Connie Chung...it backfired.
Bottom line...CNN needs a powerhouse show at 8 PM. Campbell Brown cannot deliver the goods. It will take someone already established in TV news (either at CNN or elsewhere) to get that time slot back.
Yes, Wolf Blitzer and John Roberts of the morning show both have years of experience - but you can tell that changes have recently taken place on CNN involving these two.
First, of course, Wolf gave up hosting the Sunday show, which has been completely revamped and called "State of the Union" with John King hosting. (Howie's "Reliable Sources" is still on, though now engulfed in the "SOTU" banner; only a matter of time before this show is cancelled too? I hope not.) John King's done a good job thus far on Sundays, and I'm sure he will be a shoo-in to replace the elder King on the network - Larry - when he retires. Of course, Larry has the name recognition that he will step down on his own terms. But still, "John King Live" has a nice ring to it.
As far as John Roberts' show, "American Morning..." Have you noticed they have profusely added interactive elements to the show in an attempt to "hip" it up, under the name "amFIX", i.e. their Twitter, Facebook and even their new toll-free comment number all have the letters "A M FIX" in them. It would not surprise me if the other shoe drops and we tune into CNN's morning show and it is competely rebranded "amFIX". Then people will wonder if they are in fact watching HLN, because a show with that title certainly sounds like it belongs there.
CNN was once the leader of cable opinion shows. They had it, with "Crossfire". They need to "re-spark" that fire in a hurry.
First, of course, Wolf gave up hosting the Sunday show, which has been completely revamped and called "State of the Union" with John King hosting. (Howie's "Reliable Sources" is still on, though now engulfed in the "SOTU" banner; only a matter of time before this show is cancelled too? I hope not.) John King's done a good job thus far on Sundays, and I'm sure he will be a shoo-in to replace the elder King on the network - Larry - when he retires. Of course, Larry has the name recognition that he will step down on his own terms. But still, "John King Live" has a nice ring to it.
As far as John Roberts' show, "American Morning..." Have you noticed they have profusely added interactive elements to the show in an attempt to "hip" it up, under the name "amFIX", i.e. their Twitter, Facebook and even their new toll-free comment number all have the letters "A M FIX" in them. It would not surprise me if the other shoe drops and we tune into CNN's morning show and it is competely rebranded "amFIX". Then people will wonder if they are in fact watching HLN, because a show with that title certainly sounds like it belongs there.
CNN was once the leader of cable opinion shows. They had it, with "Crossfire". They need to "re-spark" that fire in a hurry.
Yeah, CNN has always been the most basic, considering they've started all this nearly 30 years ago.searadiofreak said:
And speaking of Anderson Cooper...he is #1 at 10:00 among the 25-54s, and the promo they occasionally run proves it.
kms575 said:I'm sorry, did you just equate Larry King to sex appeal?
Oh, maybe you meant Jon King. ;D
Yikes! I should have put that in there. Definitely not Larry. Of course, there might be some who think he's got that cute-grandpa, Hugh Hefner thing going on or something.
......let's change the subject before that mental image gets permanently stained into my brain cells.
trock said:
Yeah, Geraldo Rivera is well known as being a hard-right conservative! :
The difference between Fox and MSNBC is that the liberal opinions on MSNBC continue on into the news programming and reporting. Fox's reporters pride themselves on being straight down the middle. Yes, their talk programs are skewed right. And, MSNBC's are skewed hard left (except Scarborough - Buchanan is a contributor and resident clay pigeon and Fox has plenty of liberals on for use as clay pigeons too).
CNN gently leans left, but it's a lot more subtle than MSNBC. Honestly, I think that they try really hard to stay in the center but sometimes the personal biases slip out - which can tend to happen. They also have the least in the way of "opinion" based programming and keep the focus more on news and documentary.
CNN International, on the other hand, is definitely biased toward the left. There's nothing like being in Venezuela on business and seeing a CNNI report on how marvelous Chavez has been for the country! Clearly, the reporter had either never visited the country or was given the VIP red carpet treatment and free rum by the Chavistas. Either way, CNNI misrepresented reality on that one and had me wondering how many other lies are told on a nightly basis. Let's ask Christiane Amanpour.
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This is spot-on. I can't comment on CNNI because I've never viewed it.BRNout said:trock said:
Yeah, Geraldo Rivera is well known as being a hard-right conservative! :
The difference between Fox and MSNBC is that the liberal opinions on MSNBC continue on into the news programming and reporting. Fox's reporters pride themselves on being straight down the middle. Yes, their talk programs are skewed right. And, MSNBC's are skewed hard left (except Scarborough - Buchanan is a contributor and resident clay pigeon and Fox has plenty of liberals on for use as clay pigeons too).
CNN gently leans left, but it's a lot more subtle than MSNBC. Honestly, I think that they try really hard to stay in the center but sometimes the personal biases slip out - which can tend to happen. They also have the least in the way of "opinion" based programming and keep the focus more on news and documentary.
CNN International, on the other hand, is definitely biased toward the left. There's nothing like being in Venezuela on business and seeing a CNNI report on how marvelous Chavez has been for the country! Clearly, the reporter had either never visited the country or was given the VIP red carpet treatment and free rum by the Chavistas. Either way, CNNI misrepresented reality on that one and had me wondering how many other lies are told on a nightly basis. Let's ask Christiane Amanpour.
When I watch MSNBC news during the daytime, it seems fair.
I do know that MSNBC rarely if ever has guests of opposing views on the Olbermann show for certain, though Hardball does. You do see many opposite guests on O'Reilly and Hannity. I don't watch Hannity, BTW.
I have been watching Fox more for news, but have preferred CNN in the a.m. and with Woolf Blitzer and Dobbs, as the network pretty much provides a nuts-and-bolts, bread-and-butter, just-the-facts news reportage.
I find Fox in the morning much too chatty,much like GMA and Today Show, which I stopped viewing decades ago because of the chattiness and focus on celebrity fashions, etc. Radio provided me more news in the a.m. than the TV morning shows of the past.
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