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Colbie Caillat - Fallin' For You

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carolinaradio

I really dig this song. I bet it will hit #1 after or by Christmas. What do you all think of it? Definitely ACish, and is Caillat's best song yet, IMO.

Michael Buble's "Haven't Met You Yet" is good also. These 2 beat the slop out of The Climb. ::)
 
And that's the reason I hate one-two months of all Christmas, preferring instead the "mix it in" approach, but the numbers speak for themselves.
 
imhomerjay said:
And that's the reason I hate one-two months of all Christmas, preferring instead the "mix it in" approach, but the numbers speak for themselves.
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Give it time. The more stations "sell out" to the all-Christmas sound, the less successful it will be. The earlier they give themselves over to it, the more backlash there will be. If it were really successful for them, they'd do it all year long. Can't have too much of a good thing, now can we?
 
I'm still waiting for a backlash, but each year we've seen it creep earlier and earlier. Admittedly as some stations used it only as a stunt leading into a new format (or otherwise changed formats during the year) some stations don't go back to it, but it seems like a cockroach....one gets killed and another replaces it.
 
Every year the stations that DON"t do Christmas HOPE there will be a backlash. So far, for the stations that go as early as November 1st, there hasn't been one.

Both the Colbie and Buble songs are great. Perfect A/C songs. I think they both have legs to get through the holidays and ino the new year unscathed.
 
Seltzer said:
Every year the stations that DON"t do Christmas HOPE there will be a backlash. So far, for the stations that go as early as November 1st, there hasn't been one.
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Where has a station gone all-Christmas that early? If all-Christmas is so great, then why isn't anyone doing it all year long? If it is such a ratings winner, why limit it to November and December?

The only reason why there hasn't already been a backlash is because only one, or maybe two, stations in any given market is foolish enough to try it.
 
Disliking it as I do, I still have to ask...what's foolish about a substantial increase in revenue? Thankfully, it's not my job to have to make that kind of call, but, really, if it was your job (or bonus or raise or whatever) on the line, wouldn't you do what's best for the business?

Only a few stations making the flip is logical; format flips aside, obviously not all formats are compatible with all-Christmas (at least it should be obvious), and, no, you don't tank the rest of the year for the sake of those two months.

As for year-long, seriously, we should all be able to understand the difference there and why a "good" thing in general doesn't make sense for a year-round format (and again, this is from someone who doesn't care for it).
 
I love the Colbie song and will miss hearing it on the radio this month. That being said all-Christmas will be here each and every year and I don't expect there ever to be a backlash against it.
 
Jay F said:
I love the Colbie song and will miss hearing it on the radio this month. That being said all-Christmas will be here each and every year and I don't expect there ever to be a backlash against it.
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The key is in your statement right there, this month. That is singular, and implies only ONE month, not two. And as long as only ONE station in each market does it. For these stations that have jumped the gun and started in early November, wonder if they'll be rethinking that come mid-December (law of diminishing returns). I don't know of anyone who isn't longing for a return to "normalcy" by then, if not sooner.
 
imhomerjay said:
Disliking it as I do, I still have to ask...what's foolish about a substantial increase in revenue? Thankfully, it's not my job to have to make that kind of call, but, really, if it was your job (or bonus or raise or whatever) on the line, wouldn't you do what's best for the business?

Only a few stations making the flip is logical; format flips aside, obviously not all formats are compatible with all-Christmas (at least it should be obvious), and, no, you don't tank the rest of the year for the sake of those two months.
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Seems to me that if my station is already #1, then tampering with the format for a couple of months is an attempt to fix what isn't broken. Better to let one of the underperforming stations in the cluster go all-Christmas, if the format is so great.
 
Um, no. As one case study, look at Philadelphia. Generally speaking, the longtime AC station is at or near the top of the ratings, month after month. They go all Christmas, and see the ratings spike tremendously, then post-Christmas, remain on top. Thus, they are not fixing something that's not broken, they're taking the window when, apparently, it works to be playing all Christmas and get a bonus out of it. You see the same pattern in market after market....thus, while I realize I'm in the minority in not caring for it so early, from a business standpoint, it's an obvious, natural fit for AC stations (and perhaps, on a case by case basis, some variety hits, classic hits, etc. stations).
 
At least it is still (primarily) limited to AC stations. And at least they still call it "Christmas" music, although the "music" part of that is debatable.

I know that Billboard used to "freeze" their charts for the week between Christmas and New Year's. Maybe they still do. But they should "freeze" their AC charts for the entire month of December. I'll give them December for Christmas music, but they are going to have to fight me for November! :mad:
 
No need to fight you or me...they can do very very well without us (and they DO). I don't see myself ever being ready for non-stop holiday music any time before Thanksgiving (and frankly, I'd rather it be a mixture of regular format/Christmas up until Christmas Eve), but that ship sailed. This is how it is now, and I'll just go with my iPod and the mix I created there to blend my regular songs with holiday tunes. The rest of the world can do as it likes.
 
Magic 98.9 uses "Christmas" all the time.

Where do you all think P!nk's "Please Don't Leave Me" will go? It hasn't done that great of a job moving up the chart, but some were playing it before all-Christmas. I don't think it will go much higher, don't like it.
 
The backlash is, in fact, occurring among stations that are not playing the straight-laced "traditional" Christmas fare and stations whose format is not mainstream AC. A lot of Hot ACs tried all-Christmas music last year, some of which got hit hard in the ratings. New spins on the old classics, as it turns out, are not very popular. Anthony Acampora did some good analysis on the Hot AC format and other non-traditional Christmas stragglers after last year's fall ratings. His thoughts were that a backlash has begun against stations who don't normally do this stuff, since presumably you're going after a much different demographic than normal.
 
carolinaradio said:
Where do you all think P!nk's "Please Don't Leave Me" will go? It hasn't done that great of a job moving up the chart, but some were playing it before all-Christmas. I don't think it will go much higher, don't like it.
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Jury's still out on that one. I really consider her more hot AC than mainstream AC.

Here in Nashville, Mix 92.9 did not play "Who Knew?" back when it was a hit, but I heard it there recently, before they got all "snowed in" with Christmas. But we had a hot AC playing it here at the time it was a hit, and they are gone now. Mix may just be picking up some hot AC tunes.
 
whitfm said:
The backlash is, in fact, occurring among stations that are not playing the straight-laced "traditional" Christmas fare and stations whose format is not mainstream AC. A lot of Hot ACs tried all-Christmas music last year, some of which got hit hard in the ratings. New spins on the old classics, as it turns out, are not very popular. Anthony Acampora did some good analysis on the Hot AC format and other non-traditional Christmas stragglers after last year's fall ratings. His thoughts were that a backlash has begun against stations who don't normally do this stuff, since presumably you're going after a much different demographic than normal.
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Our Christian and AC stations are the ones that went all-Christmas, and both did so around November 20th/21st. I first noticed it on the 21st. That's too early for me! And they always seem to beat to death the ones that are already burnt to a crisp, like "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree"! :mad:
 
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