Columnist: Draft Rush

[bierkenstock]

From RadioDailyNews.com:
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In America's war on terror, the time-honored tradition requiring young people to do the fighting and dying needs to be seriously re-evaluated. Aging males are easily the most gung-ho of all warriors. From Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove right on down to the guys who write letters to the editors of the nation's newspapers, the fiercest warriors are men over 50, men with expanding waistlines and receding hairlines who would tear the enemy a new one if only they could get up off the sofa in less than three tries. Besides, many of these older men work out regularly and eat sensibly. The popular wisdom now has it that 60 is the new 40, and 40 is surely young enough to serve in the military ... Read Full Article - SF Chronicle

 

[dampier]

Limbaugh, like many of these war hawks that seem to be in a hurry to invade this or that, never served a day in the military, making his views on such matters dubious in value.

Bush protected Texas from the Vietcong invaders during the Vietnam War, Cheney was "too busy" to serve, and Limbaugh was excused for his pilonidal cyst (It's a congenital incomplete closure of the neural groove at the base of the spinal cord in which excess tissue and hair may collect and cause discomfort and discharge.) That's the polite definition.

It's actually a real condition - my cousins suffer from it. Most of the time, it's a non-issue, but when it does become infected, it's hell on earth.

Assuming this is actually his true condition, his deferment was legitimate, although Limbaugh himself keeps denying he has it.

http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.htm

 

[parklane]

Don't think that Rush and especially Karl Rove could pass the "don't ask; don't tell test".


> From RadioDailyNews.com:
>
> In America's war on terror, the time-honored tradition
> requiring young people to do the fighting and dying needs to
> be seriously re-evaluated. Aging males are easily the most
> gung-ho of all warriors. From Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove
> right on down to the guys who write letters to the editors
> of the nation's newspapers, the fiercest warriors are men
> over 50, men with expanding waistlines and receding
> hairlines who would tear the enemy a new one if only they
> could get up off the sofa in less than three tries. Besides,
> many of these older men work out regularly and eat sensibly.
> The popular wisdom now has it that 60 is the new 40, and 40
> is surely young enough to serve in the military ... Read
> Full Article - SF Chronicle
>

 

[JohnnyMorganWXJX]

> Limbaugh, like many of these war hawks that seem to be in a
> hurry to invade this or that, never served a day in the
> military, making his views on such matters dubious in value.
>
>
> Bush protected Texas from the Vietcong invaders during the
> Vietnam War, Cheney was "too busy" to serve, and Limbaugh
> was excused for his pilonidal cyst (It's a congenital
> incomplete closure of the neural groove at the base of the
> spinal cord in which excess tissue and hair may collect and
> cause discomfort and discharge.) That's the polite
> definition.
>
> It's actually a real condition - my cousins suffer from it.
> Most of the time, it's a non-issue, but when it does become
> infected, it's hell on earth.
>
> Assuming this is actually his true condition, his deferment
> was legitimate, although Limbaugh himself keeps denying he
> has it.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.htm
>

I'm not sure this belongs here; maybe Off-Air.

 

[raccoonradio]

Only if Franken gets drafted too

Them's fightin' words!

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[coolidge]

That editorial, aside from being rather silly, has little or nothing to do with radio.

 

[parklane]

> That editorial, aside from being rather silly, has little or
> nothing to do with radio.
>
"coolidge?" Wasn't that the punch line to an old Naragansett Beer commerical created by Diane Sawyer's husband, Mike Nichols, when he was part of the team of "Nichols and May"?

 

[Wilkins_Micawber]

> I'm not sure this belongs here; maybe Off-Air.

I don't think many people on this board actually work in radio. It's pretty much a bunch of people who get tired of posting on Moveon.org. It will go on for a while until a conservative responds once to often and then the Mod shuts down the thread.

 

[mr_arbitron]

. It's pretty much a bunch of people who get tired of
> posting on Moveon.org. It will go on for a while until a
> conservative responds once to often and then the Mod shuts
> down the thread.



heh heh heh...DING DING DING!! Award this man $10,000 !!!
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[954]

> In America's war on terror, the time-honored tradition
> requiring young people to do the fighting and dying needs to
> be seriously re-evaluated. Aging males are easily the most
> gung-ho of all warriors.

That's right. Because they've learned from history. Unlike
the naive young liberals who say "if we just give them all
the west bank land they want they'll leave us alone."

I suggest you look up "Neville Chamberlain" and "Sudetenland".
It was more than a generation before my time, but I studied
history.

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

> From Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove
> right on down to the guys who write letters to the editors
> of the nation's newspapers, the fiercest warriors are men
> over 50, men with expanding waistlines and receding
> hairlines who would tear the enemy a new one if only they
> could get up off the sofa in less than three tries.

I see a lot of hate exhibited by a young Peter Pan who is
afraid of getting old himself.

> Besides,
> many of these older men work out regularly and eat sensibly.
> The popular wisdom now has it that 60 is the new 40, and 40
> is surely young enough to serve in the military ... Read
> Full Article - SF Chronicle

Evidently the columnist is ignorant of the fact that the draft
was abolished about 30 years ago.

He's probably also ignorant of the fact that Rush and the
various other 50+ folks he mentioned were college age and in
the draft pool. There's nothing for him to apologize for.

Besides, the military doesn't take volunteers over 40.

I don't have to read the unpleasant article to to conclude
that the SF columnist is a leftist airhole trying to stir up
intergenerational hatred. The childish generalizations
above say it all.

73s from 954
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[954]

> Limbaugh, like many of these war hawks that seem to be in a
> hurry to invade this or that, never served a day in the
> military, making his views on such matters dubious in value.

And a large number of people take the pope's advice about sex.

Does his inexperience in the matter cause his advice to be
considered "dubious in value?"

If not, then what's your justification for your judgement on Rush?

I dare say Rush is more knowledgeable about world politics
and history than about 99% of the people in the military. And
at least 50% of congress.

73s from 954
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[bierkenstock]

He may be knowledgeable. He is also a hypocrite as is anyone who calls for war but but avoids going themselves. Talk is cheap. Supporting the troops does not require commitment; being one does.

And regarding the Pope's advice on sex, I once heard Paul Harvey tell about an Italian woman who had 12 kids. The priest told her to stop having sex. She replied to the priest, "You no play-a the game, you no make-a the rules."

Goooood.....DAY!


>
> And a large number of people take the pope's advice about
> sex.
>
> Does his inexperience in the matter cause his advice to be
> considered "dubious in value?"
>
> If not, then what's your justification for your judgement on
> Rush?
>
> I dare say Rush is more knowledgeable about world politics
> and history than about 99% of the people in the military.
> And
> at least 50% of congress.
>
> 73s from 954
>

 

[bierkenstock]

Bad example. The Palestinians, like the American Indians, had their land taken from them. And like the Indians, they are called "savages" or "terrorists" if they don't roll over. The Palestinians were there first. And here are conservatives supporting a government that spends spies against the US and shields murderers and other criminals from the US.

>
> That's right. Because they've learned from history. Unlike
> the naive young liberals who say "if we just give them all
> the west bank land they want they'll leave us alone."
>

 

[k9ez]

> Bad example. The Palestinians, like the American Indians,
> had their land taken from them. And like the Indians, they
> are called "savages" or "terrorists" if they don't roll
> over. The Palestinians were there first. And here are
> conservatives supporting a government that spends spies
> against the US and shields murderers and other criminals
> from the US.
>

Help me here......

The Palastinians were there first? How do you know that? To me it seems that you have two diverse groups (Jews and Palestinians) that lived in the same area for eons. FOr a while it was called Palastine.

Also looking at the historical map of Palestine, it includes what is now Jordan. Why isnt Jordan giving up part of their land, or why wasnt Jordan considered the Paletinian state?

Also, you say "And here are conservatives supporting a government that spends spies against the US and shields murderers and other criminals from the US." Did not the Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy administrations support Israel as well??? Why are you pigeon holing conservatives here?

 

[k9ez]

Re: Only if Franken gets drafted too

> Them's fightin' words!
>
http://ww> w.humaneventsonline.com/images/FrankenCPAC/FrankenCPAC15.jpg
>

I found it VERY interesting that no one responded to this post. Guess they are too busy ripping on Rush Limbaugh to notice.

 

[954]

I could write pages about this, but I don't intend to. This will be it.

> Bad example. The Palestinians, like the American Indians,
> had their land taken from them.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Anti-semitic leftist propaganda.

The land was taken by Israel while defending itself in 1967 against a coordinated invasion by the countries bordering it on all sides. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and even Lebanon. The 1967 Six Day War was one of dozens of wars since the 1940s started by the Arabs to annihilate Israel. (On Savage Nation last night, I heard the number referred to as 40+ wars. I was shocked!)

No one ever expected Israel to win in '67. Jews are expected to roll over and die.

Would you say the people of Israel are not entitled to defend themselves? Unlike the people of any other country of the world.

Jordan even warned the Palestinians to get out of the West Bank before the 1967 invasion. Did you know that? A majority of Jordan's inhabitants are Palestinians.

Never in the history of the world has a country defending itself against aggression and potential annihilation been termed the agressor, like Israel has. Especially by people who want to take the entire country (Israel), not just the so-called "occupied" land.

> And like the Indians, they
> are called "savages" or "terrorists" if they don't roll

Well, they ARE terrorists. Duh.

> over. The Palestinians were there first.

Wrong again.

Maybe they were there most recently, but they certainly weren't there first.

Like I said, I am not making this a thread about Israel. Troll somewhere else or search Google for info.

Don't expect a response from me, no matter how infalmmatory and hateful your response is. This is it. I'm not interested in wasting my time on the ignorant.

In closing, I'd like to remind you of one thing:
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[doc9464]

Re: Only if Franken gets drafted too

> > Them's fightin' words!
> >
> http://ww>
> w.humaneventsonline.com/images/FrankenCPAC/FrankenCPAC15.jpg
>
> >
>
> I found it VERY interesting that no one responded to this
> post. Guess they are too busy ripping on Rush Limbaugh to
> notice.
>

I think the radio commercial that Jessie Ventura for Operation Truth was doing a good job of explaining that chickenhawks like Rush and the others who talk up this war and never served have no idea in the slightest about fighting a war much less strategizing.

The folks at the Jesus General blog setup a new "project" for chickenhawks:

http://operationyellowelephant.blogspot.com/

 

[bierkenstock]

Not 1967 - 1947. And 1917.

First, rent "Lawrence of Arabia." The Arabs, including the Palestinians, were promised independence after World War I, in return for helping to fight the Ottoman Empire (which at the time, included most of the middle east including Palestine). Instead, the Brits and the allies sold them out and took over.

After World War II, the allies decided to turn most of Palestine over to Zionists. This was supposedly in response to the holocaust but the Nazis were responsible for the holocaust, not Arabs. Palestinians were dispossesed and had their homes taken from them. And sympathy for Palestinians is not "anti-semetic" because Palestinians are Semites.

So it is questionable who is the "invader" here. And a lack of respect and compassion for the plight of native Palestinians betrays the ethical principles of Judaism. It's no different than the attitudes of Europeans toward American Indians in the 19th, 18th and 17th Century.

Strange: why is it impossible for anyone to criticize Israel (on anything) without being called an anti-semite?

Yes, both Democratic and Republican administrations have followed similar policies on Israel, apparently motivated by a desire not to alienate Jewish voters and political contributors. And to appease the Christian religious right (which thinks that any day now, Israel will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem and Jesus will return). Politics always trumps principle.

 

[Wilkins_Micawber]

Palestinians

> Bad example. The Palestinians, like the American Indians,
> had their land taken from them. And like the Indians, they
> are called "savages" or "terrorists" if they don't roll
> over. The Palestinians were there first. And here are
> conservatives supporting a government that spends spies
> against the US and shields murderers and other criminals
> from the US.

And this pertains to radio how?

 

[2001]

> Bad example. The Palestinians, like the American Indians,
> had their land taken from them. And like the Indians, they
> are called "savages" or "terrorists" if they don't roll
> over. The Palestinians were there first. And here are
> conservatives supporting a government that spends spies
> against the US and shields murderers and other criminals
> from the US.
>
> >

Actually, if go you waaaay back, I mean waaaaaaaaaaaaay, waaaaaaaaaaaay back, "Bierk", the Jews had their land taken away from them. (I'm talking about during Biblical times, my friend.)

So the whole "Native American-thing" on your part is bogus too.


> > That's right. Because they've learned from history. Unlike
>
> > the naive young liberals who say "if we just give them all
>
> > the west bank land they want they'll leave us alone."
> >
>