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(Comcast) cable carriage of local radio stations

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SeattleObserver

Okay, who is in charge of this whole project? Why is "Classic Rock 101" the only Canadian channel in our lineup yet they get several of our channels over Shaw? Also, I personally would like to see a few non-locals added and replacing some of the others if necessary. I would love for CBC Radio 2 to be on cable (easily receivable from Victoria with an antenna the cable co. is likely to have) or 100.3 the Q or 100.5 the Peak or even "JR FM" to give country fans one more country choice beyond "The Wolf" and KMPS. (or I guess KNBQ could be added)

Why are some stations on here and others not? What about the rimshots that probably never get listened to like (sorry students) KUGS or KAOS?
KQMV-FM Ch. 964 92.5 Adult Contemporary
KMPS-FM Ch 965 94.1 Country
KPLU-FM 966 88.5 National Public Radio
KUBE-FM 967 93.3 R&B Rhythm Hits
KUOW-FM 968 94.9 National Public Radio
KWJZ-FM 969 98.9 Smooth Jazz
KCMS-FM 970 105.3 Christian
KISW-FM 971 99.9 Rock
KMTT-FM 972 103.7 Adult Alternative
KPLZ-FM 973 101.5 Adult Contemporary
KZOK-FM 974 102.5 Classic Rock
KNDD-FM 975 107.7 Classic & Modern Rock
KJAQ-FM 976 96.5 Eclectic - Modern
KJR-FM 977 95.7 Classic Rock
KRWM-FM 978 106.9 Adult Contemporary
CFMI-FM 979 101.1 Classic Rock
KUGS-FM 980 89.3 College and Alternative Rock
KAFE-FM 981 104.3 Soft Rock
KAOS-FM 982 89.3 Adult Alternative
KISM-FM 983 92.9 Classic Rock
KXXO-FM 984 96.1 Soft Rock
KIRO-FM 985 97.3 Oldies
KING-FM 986 98.1 Classical
 
SeattleObserver said:
Okay, who is in charge of this whole project? Why is "Classic Rock 101" the only Canadian channel in our lineup yet they get several of our channels over Shaw? Also, I personally would like to see a few non-locals added and replacing some of the others if necessary. I would love for CBC Radio 2 to be on cable (easily receivable from Victoria with an antenna the cable co. is likely to have) or 100.3 the Q or 100.5 the Peak or even "JR FM" to give country fans one more country choice beyond "The Wolf" and KMPS. (or I guess KNBQ could be added)

Why are some stations on here and others not? What about the rimshots that probably never get listened to like (sorry students) KUGS or KAOS?
KQMV-FM Ch. 964 92.5 Adult Contemporary
KMPS-FM Ch 965 94.1 Country
KPLU-FM 966 88.5 National Public Radio
KUBE-FM 967 93.3 R&B Rhythm Hits
KUOW-FM 968 94.9 National Public Radio
KWJZ-FM 969 98.9 Smooth Jazz
KCMS-FM 970 105.3 Christian
KISW-FM 971 99.9 Rock
KMTT-FM 972 103.7 Adult Alternative
KPLZ-FM 973 101.5 Adult Contemporary
KZOK-FM 974 102.5 Classic Rock
KNDD-FM 975 107.7 Classic & Modern Rock
KJAQ-FM 976 96.5 Eclectic - Modern
KJR-FM 977 95.7 Classic Rock
KRWM-FM 978 106.9 Adult Contemporary
CFMI-FM 979 101.1 Classic Rock
KUGS-FM 980 89.3 College and Alternative Rock
KAFE-FM 981 104.3 Soft Rock
KAOS-FM 982 89.3 Adult Alternative
KISM-FM 983 92.9 Classic Rock
KXXO-FM 984 96.1 Soft Rock
KIRO-FM 985 97.3 Oldies
KING-FM 986 98.1 Classical
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I have Comcast too and here's my big question: Where's KKWF, KEXP, KNHC, KFNK and KBKS?

I think this can and should be expanded to include more Canadians (CJJR, CFOX, CBC, CKZZ, CIOC, CKKQ, CJZN, etc.), tiny indies like KRXY, LPFMs like KMRE-LP, KYAO-LP, small public stations like KSER, KSVR, KBCS, and even a few down the coast (KDUX, KXXK) and maybe even some Portland stations (KUFO, KINK, etc.) However, KEEP KUGS and KAOS. They're both awesome stations (especially KUGS, which I'm listening to now here at home as my right knee is recovering.)

I think when Comcast put this together originally, they only had so much space on the grid and only so many stations could participate. I think the time has come where they COULD expand.

But the format descriptions need a lot of work: KNDD - Classic and Modern Rock? KIRO-FM - Greatest Hits?
 
Regarding KNDD, Nirvana and Pearl Jam have been around long enough now to be considered Classic Rock. Maybe KIRO FM is playing the greatest hit stories of the local and national news! ???
 
Lonely Summer said:
....Maybe KIRO FM is playing the greatest hit stories of the local and national news! ???
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:D LOL! That was a good one! I think Dave Ross is going to have an album out soon, actually.

Anyways....It seems that end of Comcast's lineup is heavily neglected and out of date. One time during the summer KUFO from Portland was actually trying to overtake CFMI's signal. Other times i've heard even the Seattle stations with static over Comcast's feed. It's like no one pays attention to what's going out over that part of the lineup. It would be better if they can carry the HD radio feeds instead of the analog counterparts (or in the case of CFMI, the DAB feed), if not a direct feed from the station's studios.
 
swhyde1980 said:
Lonely Summer said:
....Maybe KIRO FM is playing the greatest hit stories of the local and national news! ???
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:D LOL! That was a good one! I think Dave Ross is going to have an album out soon, actually.

Anyways....It seems that end of Comcast's lineup is heavily neglected and out of date. One time during the summer KUFO from Portland was actually trying to overtake CFMI's signal. Other times i've heard even the Seattle stations with static over Comcast's feed. It's like no one pays attention to what's going out over that part of the lineup. It would be better if they can carry the HD radio feeds instead of the analog counterparts (or in the case of CFMI, the DAB feed), if not a direct feed from the station's studios.
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There's a kind of fuzz too with KRWM's feed. But over the air in NW Washington, especially in Bellingham, you can get a blast of CHWF Naniamo. Or a local pirate.

101.1 is a strange and crowded frequency in Seattle. When I was in Seattle a month ago, I had a lot of fun driving around town just hearing a million different little transmitters on that frequency. On top of occasional blasts from CFMI or KUFO, I also heard a pirate on Bainbridge Island (actually IDing from there.) when I was in West Seattle. A few pirates in the U-District (pretty close together, by mere blocks and probably trying to jam each other out - one playing hip-hop, the other playing punk), another pirate on Capitol Hill playing techno. Something on Mercer Island too. All in one night...

You could even be just sitting in one place and hear somebody's car iPod/Satellite FM transmitter on 101.1 go by. Or pull up somewhere near you. Even in my second floor hotel room, I'd hear an FM loaded car on 101.1 with something different on it go by every 10-15 minutes on my portable radio.
 
I think I had cable for at least fifteen years before I learned it had FM stations. In Canada it was bigger deal (decades ago) because much like the TV counterpart, much of the value was in importing US stations to augment a fairly shallow local station offering. Now, there are blocked content rules (US counterpart is simulcast with local station version) when US networks and CDN networks compete for same show/time slot (prime time, mostly) so less of an issue.

Which makes me wonder...if reception around here is decent enough that most people don't rely on cable for signal quality...does anyone rely on the cable for RECEPTION? If that number is small, then you'd wonder how many people rely on the cable for IMPORTED (out of market) content (seems to be little to none of that offered). By the time i/net streams take over the out-of-market and reception issues...cable carrying FM choices is probably going to be moot issue.
 
LITTLEBOYBLUE said:
Now, there are blocked content rules (US counterpart is simulcast with local station version) when US networks and CDN networks compete for same show/time slot
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In Canada, this is an ongoing annoyance for those wanting to see the much anticipated Superbowl TV ads. A large portion of them will be substituted with local commercials (on the national and local CTV network). That means, even if you're tuned to the cable NBC feed, you might as well have the Canadian counterpart dialed in as that is what you're going to get regardless. So you think, "Allright then, I'll just go over to my buddy's place, he's got a dish".
Uh uh; unless it's a grey-market exclusive U.S. service, that'll be blocked too.
The only remaining options are to: (A) Find a local sports bar with a semi-illegal feed. (B) Watch all the ads later on any of the various internet sources. or (C) Drive to Blaine, Point Roberts, or Bellingham.
 
Speaking about the cable-carriage of Seattle stations up north past the border...  Do they get those signals off-air, or do they have a direct link to the studios from Seattle to B.C., and is it the same for Bell & Starchoice?  More specifically the Canadian DBS satellite operators, because I have family in San Diego, who was a "test household" for one of Starchoice's newer satellite recievers made by Motorola (where one of my family members works down there) before the reciever was released to the public, when I was down there a couple years ago.  So last time I was down in San Diego, I got to watch Starchoice, and their feed of the Seattle stations (KOMO, KING, KIRO, KCPQ) was very good, as well as the Spokane stations (KREM, KXLY, KHQ, and I think KAYU was on there as well).   Do the Seattle and Spokane stations send a direct feed from the studios to Canada as well, or do they just get it off the air, or maybe contract with DISH/DirecTV to help deliver those signals to Bell and StarChoice?

Ironically, we got to help make a report of a "bug" that was in that particular reciever.  We ran into a lockup when we called up the program information too many times!  Had to unplug the reciever and plug it back in, before it would respond again.  I guess why it was in a "testing" phase.
 
Satellite uplinks are mostly fed with leased fiber lines for TV...

On cable FM thing, i note that we (KMIH) used to be on comcast but they required that we provide the RF stream and the gear they provided was total junk and was the reason that it sounded much worse on cable than the air... While this could have been solved, it seemed like comcast did not really care about the service and was not maintaining it.
 
Comcast needs to add more channels. KKWF, KBKS, Portland, Aberdeen, Bellingham, KEXP, Vancouver, Victoria. What about Ellensburg? They can add KXLE to give country fans more choices.

-crainbebo
 
I am Surprised that Comcast still has FM cable in Seattle in most other metro areas they dropped it back in 2005 to clear up room for more channels and broadband.

We don't have FM cable in Portland metro area because it was not a requirement of the Franchise agreement that then TCI(which became AT&T broadband then comcast) signed in most of the metro. The only area I know that still has FM cable is parts of West Portland and Comcast was given permisson in June to drop those in September.
 
crainbebo said:
Comcast needs to add more channels. KKWF, KBKS, Portland, Aberdeen, Bellingham, KEXP, Vancouver, Victoria. What about Ellensburg? They can add KXLE to give country fans more choices.

-crainbebo
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I believe most of Central Washington is Charter Communications territory, so unfortunately they might not be so kind to send a feed of KXLE over to this side of the mountains to Comcast.  KXXK from Aberdeen perhaps....KKWF, KEXP, and KBKS I don't know why they don't carry.  One Spokane station (KISC or KXLY would be good) and one Portland station (Maybe KUFO...would be interesting to have 2 "Rock 101s" on that lineup.  One from Vancouver and one from Portland) would be nice (since Comcast is at both places, but only if there's a fiber feed from there to here), as well as the major AMs in the Seattle market.  KUGS, KAFE, and KISM from Bellingham are already carried on Comcast (Channels 980, 981, and 983).  CKZZ and CHQM would be good adds if they could manage it, as well as CIOC from Victoria, which comes in great here in parts of the Puget Sound area.  I wonder if they use an antenna up on Tiger or Cougar mountain to pick the stations off the air?  If so Aberdeen wouldn't be too much of a problem picking up off those elevations (at least KSWW, or perhaps even KYAO if they can get it in by fiber), to send to the master head-end.  A bonus would be if they carried the HD Radio signals instead of the analog counterparts, as well as the sub-channels.
 
The bigger question: Does anyone actually spend much time listening to radio stations carried by the cable TV company?
 
te519 said:
The bigger question: Does anyone actually spend much time listening to radio stations carried by the cable TV company?
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Does anybody spend much time listening to the radio PERIOD anymore?
 
The bigger question: Does anyone actually spend much time listening to radio stations carried by the cable TV company?
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I do I do !!! While Shaw holds a near monopoly on cable up here, Telus offers an alternative (which I subscribe to). Not only are Telus TV offerings far superior to Shaw, they also carry 84 radio stations from various locations throughout B.C. and Alberta. While it's true that most of these stations are also available via their internet streams, it's so much easier cranking the TV volume up and sitting on the deck with a cold one in hand. My only gripe is the fact that they don't carry any U.S. signals.....you would think that people might enjoy listening to Seattle radio a bit more than radio from Lethbridge. Interesting selection nonetheless.
 
Just wondering!!
Is there a technical aspect as to why there aren't any AM's listed or included on the cable carriage?
 
Of those 84 stations mentioned above 20 are AM. So it can be done, but I guess a lot of cable systems just can't be bothered.
 
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