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I just have to say this. I don't know about others, but the commercials for Reliant Energy are terrible. "Hi. I'm Bob." Hi I'm Jim, Bob...." "Hi Jimbob" "No, I'm Jim." Thats not excatly the way it goes. But I know many must have heard it. Its just stupid. Can't they come up with something better?
 
> I just have to say this. I don't know about others, but the
> commercials for Reliant Energy are terrible. "Hi. I'm Bob."
> Hi I'm Jim, Bob...." "Hi Jimbob" "No, I'm Jim." Thats not
> excatly the way it goes. But I know many must have heard it.
> Its just stupid. Can't they come up with something better?
>

But the goal of the commercial seems to have worked in that you are talking about it and spreading the word of Reliant Energy.

That said, I'd rather hear the Reliant commercial any day over a Mattress Mac commerical where he's screaming at you and rushing to cram every last word in. The Reliant commericals, while debated as to being stupid, are at least mellow and don't require that you run for the radio dial to switch channels or drop the volume -- as is the case for me with the Mattress Mac commercials.

JMHO
 
>The Reliant commericals, while debated as to being stupid, are at least
> mellow and don't require that you run for the radio dial to
> switch channels or drop the volume -- as is the case for me
> with the Mattress Mac commercials.
>

I don't like the Gallery furniture commercials either. I shop for furniture at Star and Fingers. I get my electricity from TXU. I don't care whether it works for Reliant or not. Mellow, but stupid.
 
In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> I just have to say this. I don't know about others, but the
> commercials for Reliant Energy are terrible. "Hi. I'm Bob."
> Hi I'm Jim, Bob...." "Hi Jimbob" "No, I'm Jim." Thats not
> excatly the way it goes. But I know many must have heard it.
> Its just stupid. Can't they come up with something better?
>

If I may be brutally honest with you...ad agencies know the potential customer/consumer they serve or hope to serve. That kind of ad appeals to the 95% of the Houston knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, pickup-driving BillyBobs and Bobbettes who find that kind of inane drivel to be entertaining. Houston, in spite of protestations, is still more Hicktown than Uptown.

High-brow, literate, catchy and cutting-edge spots are, unfortunately, in short supply. They tend to make the BillyBobs/Bobbettes stare blankly at the radio and grunt..."Whu-u-u-tt?"

In spite of the howls of protest I know will tumble out, in Houston, you go with what sells; that kind of "hoomer" does just that. I research and produce both TV and Radio ad campaigns for clients in Houston and across the US; we conduct tons of focus groups, test marketing and comparison marketing. "Hick Humor" sells better in Houston than any other major city. Even Dallas scores higher.

And, please! Don't shoot the messenger. :)
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

Could you break that down into mono-syllables for me? It's hard to understand those big words for us folks who's nephew is also their son. Hee - Haaaww !!!

>
> If I may be brutally honest with you...ad agencies know the
> potential customer/consumer they serve or hope to serve.
> That kind of ad appeals to the 95% of the Houston
> knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, pickup-driving BillyBobs
> and Bobbettes who find that kind of inane drivel to be
> entertaining. Houston, in spite of protestations, is still
> more Hicktown than Uptown.
>
> High-brow, literate, catchy and cutting-edge spots are,
> unfortunately, in short supply. They tend to make the
> BillyBobs/Bobbettes stare blankly at the radio and
> grunt..."Whu-u-u-tt?"
>
> In spite of the howls of protest I know will tumble out, in
> Houston, you go with what sells; that kind of "hoomer" does
> just that. I research and produce both TV and Radio ad
> campaigns for clients in Houston and across the US; we
> conduct tons of focus groups, test marketing and comparison
> marketing. "Hick Humor" sells better in Houston than any
> other major city. Even Dallas scores higher.
>
> And, please! Don't shoot the messenger. :)
>
 
The one that gets me is the "I love Lucy" commercial for the Texas lottery. Also the "Heheh, heads up bbq lovers looks like your burger is ready" makes me want to pull out my hair.
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> If I may be brutally honest with you...ad agencies know the
> potential customer/consumer they serve or hope to serve.
> That kind of ad appeals to the 95% of the Houston
> knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, pickup-driving BillyBobs
> and Bobbettes who find that kind of inane drivel to be
> entertaining. Houston, in spite of protestations, is still
> more Hicktown than Uptown.
>

Well, Val...you sure do have your opinions, don't you? That's your PERCEPTION of Houston. Take it from this old "Yankee Transplant" from Milwaukee/Chicago/Cleveland....there's a lot more to Houston than the perceptions you derive from market research. I've had tons of "debates" with Dave Eduardo over his claims to "devine knowledge" attained from mounds of research. You only get out of research, that which you put in.

Your research didn't tell you that Houston is second, only to New York, in the number of theater seats. Not movie theaters. REAL theaters. Houston is one of only four cities in the U.S. that has its own opera company, symphony, theater company (a couple of them), and ballet company. Most cities can only manage a couple of the above.

Houston is home to one of the nation's largest, and arguably, finest fine art museums. In fact, when you take into account the Houston Museum of Fine Arts, the Gassell School, the Contemporary Arts Museum, and the DeMenil Museum, you'll find Houston nipping on the heals of New York and Chicago, again, in the field of art. We have Rice University, and don't laugh...the University of Houston, home to the Hilton School of hotel and restaurant management (one of the world's best). U of H is, also, home to one of the nation's best law schools, business schools, schools of architecture, and its school of physical science is a great piece of work.

There was a time, only a few years ago, when I could go downtown after 7pm, stand in the middle of Travis Street at Polk, and roll a bowling ball down Travis to Franklin, and not hit anybody. Today, you can't find parking downtown at night. Houston's nightlife is on fire! Too bad Leapy Brown had to tear up all the downtown streets. If that job is ever finished, downtown will be a real showplace.

In terms of size, Houston is the fourth largest city in the USA, in terms of population. However, in terms of square mileage, Houston is the largest city in the Western Hemisphere. We've got room!


> High-brow, literate, catchy and cutting-edge spots are,
> unfortunately, in short supply. They tend to make the
> BillyBobs/Bobbettes stare blankly at the radio and
> grunt..."Whu-u-u-tt?"
>

Perhaps, the "high-brow" segment of Houston prefers other forms of personal entertainment. With satellite radio and other, more appealing forms of personal entertainment, why bother with the impersonal medium of radio? Why suffer through clusters of six, seven, or even eight commercials in a row?


> In spite of the howls of protest I know will tumble out, in
> Houston, you go with what sells; that kind of "hoomer" does
> just that. I research and produce both TV and Radio ad
> campaigns for clients in Houston and across the US; we
> conduct tons of focus groups, test marketing and comparison
> marketing. "Hick Humor" sells better in Houston than any
> other major city. Even Dallas scores higher.
>

Hey, I can identify with that. I produce radio and TV spots, day in and day out. One of the biggest frustrations I feel is that no one wants an "artfully done" radio commercial. The only thing clients want is the "Mattress Mack-scream-yell and pound-your-chest" kind of spot. All you can do is offer your input, and when the client rejects it, just do it their way. I'd rather have a satisfied client. It's the client who pays my invoices, not the thousands of armchair critics. And, that's what matters when I reconcile my checkbook.

> And, please! Don't shoot the messenger. :)

I'm not shooting, believe me. It's just that Houston has so much to offer. The fact that the "city fathers & mothers" are too dense to promote it only points out the poor choices we've made in selecting our city government. The Houston Convention and Visitors' Bureau needs new management. The Houston Film Commission is no more. That's a darned shame!

Another thing about Houston I love is, it's a friendly city. My last trip to Chicago/Milwaukee last year emphasized that. Walk into almost any business up there, from hotels to retail, and most folks act like they're doing you a favor by being there. In Houston, you could be out shopping, socializing, or enjoying a happy hour somewhere, and find yourself rubbing shoulders with a millionaire who's 'just one of the gang'. Drive through River Oaks. You'll drive past seemingly enless rows of mansions, and you'll see more Chevy Suburbans parked out front than you will Rolls Royces. Sure, they're rich. But, the vast majority of those people are friendly and unpretentious. This is a city made up of good people. And, when the rest of the country suffers a recession, Houston doesn't bother to slow down. We just boogie on. And don't compare Houston to Dallas. Sure, there's a rivalry, of sorts, between the two cities. It's always been that way. It's all in fun, and nothing more. To compare Houston to Dallas is like comparing apples to oranges. We're not only two different cities, we're two different cultures. The best part is, we're both Texan, and that makes us both great places to live and work.

Finally, since I've lived here most of my life, I can't begin to tell you what a warm feeling I get when I'm in a place like Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Atlanta, or even Honolulu and see the Lone Star displayed in some form or fashion. Does anyone know what the New York, California, Illinois, or Hawaii state flags look like?
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> However, in terms of square
> mileage, Houston is the largest city in the Western
> Hemisphere. We've got room!


Umm, recheck that. Jacksonville, FL & Anchorage, AK cover more land area than Houston...and that's in the US only.

G
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> > However, in terms of square
> > mileage, Houston is the largest city in the Western
> > Hemisphere. We've got room!
>
>
> Umm, recheck that. Jacksonville, FL & Anchorage, AK cover
> more land area than Houston...and that's in the US only.
>
> G
>

I may have to stand corrected on that, however, with this last annexation that the City Council pulled off, it was my understanding (thanks to a U.S. Government document on the Net) that Houston surged to the top, again. I know that, thanks to all the golf courses, Jacksonville held the top spot for a good while, see-sawing with Houston. Anchorage must've pulled off another annexation, too.

Just the same, I always thought that it was odd that, when you hear Houston mentioned on the evening news, they always say, "Houston, Texas". You mean that Houston...the 4th largest city in the USA....is so obscure that you have to qualify its name by adding, "Texas"?

Just for fun, I'll go back and see what I can find on "size" (of cities), again. The figures do change a lot. At one point, Sao Paulo, Brazil was the "big one" for the hemisphere. But, due to the faster economic growth, Houston moved out ahead. Jacksonville's square mileage is largely golf courses and wetlands.

And, while I'm spouting all these useless facts....mistaken as some may be...I'll add one that I forgot. Houston has Texas' largest, and third largest business districts. Now, gang, go out there and SELL THIS CITY!!! It's a great place, and if you don't believe me, visit Detroit. And if you can't do that, Google "The Fabulous Ruins of Detroit" and have a good look. But, while you're looking at all the depressing Detroit photos, bear in mind that Detroit radio is still some of the country's best. Go figure!
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> In terms of size, Houston is the fourth largest city in the
> USA, in terms of population.

While technically true, it's a somewhat dubious claim, since the population growth was acheived by annexing areas such as Clear Lake, Greenspoint, Kingwood, West Oaks, etc. against the will of people who lived there.
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

Boy, did you say a mouthful, Uncle Guido. Add to that one of the most long-standing and diverse blues communities in the whole world, from Little Joe Washington or New Jack Hippies to the originators, from the late Doug Sahm (who should be in the Rock 'N Roll Hall Of Fame) to ZZTop and Kenny Cordray, we've got ex-members of Steppenwolf living on royalties and teaching music lessons to keep busy, Carolyn Wonderland while we're still lucky enough to have her, big band leaders, jazz legends, and original 1940's guitarslingers playing cafes for tips, and that up-and-coming band you might see at a summer gig one year could very well turn out to be the darling of the Grammy awards ceremonies the next *having left Houston because there's only so far you can get without local media support*.

Despite all the great things going for Houston, I have to say that more than anything, I was a bit shocked at the previous poster's assessment of the listeners. They're our whole reason for being, the people who make this city great, and the very last people in the world I want to see slammed. They are the lifeblood of Houston radio, and are by and large the most loyal I've ever met. Lose their trust, though, and it's gone for good. I'm not entirely convinced that a consultant can truly serve a market with that sort of demeaning attitude about its people.

I'd feel pretty rotten if the listeners stumbled across this board and thought that we all shared the same negative opinion of them. We don't.

Respectfully,
J

P.S. Do I owe you an email, Guido? I think I do.





> > If I may be brutally honest with you...ad agencies know
> the
> > potential customer/consumer they serve or hope to serve.
> > That kind of ad appeals to the 95% of the Houston
> > knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, pickup-driving
> BillyBobs
> > and Bobbettes who find that kind of inane drivel to be
> > entertaining. Houston, in spite of protestations, is still
>
> > more Hicktown than Uptown.
> >
>
> Well, Val...you sure do have your opinions, don't you?
> That's your PERCEPTION of Houston. Take it from this old
> "Yankee Transplant" from
> Milwaukee/Chicago/Cleveland....there's a lot more to Houston
> than the perceptions you derive from market research. I've
> had tons of "debates" with Dave Eduardo over his claims to
> "devine knowledge" attained from mounds of research. You
> only get out of research, that which you put in.
>
> Your research didn't tell you that Houston is second, only
> to New York, in the number of theater seats. Not movie
> theaters. REAL theaters. Houston is one of only four
> cities in the U.S. that has its own opera company, symphony,
> theater company (a couple of them), and ballet company.
> Most cities can only manage a couple of the above.
>
> Houston is home to one of the nation's largest, and
> arguably, finest fine art museums. In fact, when you take
> into account the Houston Museum of Fine Arts, the Gassell
> School, the Contemporary Arts Museum, and the DeMenil
> Museum, you'll find Houston nipping on the heals of New York
> and Chicago, again, in the field of art. We have Rice
> University, and don't laugh...the University of Houston,
> home to the Hilton School of hotel and restaurant management
> (one of the world's best). U of H is, also, home to one of
> the nation's best law schools, business schools, schools of
> architecture, and its school of physical science is a great
> piece of work.
>
> There was a time, only a few years ago, when I could go
> downtown after 7pm, stand in the middle of Travis Street at
> Polk, and roll a bowling ball down Travis to Franklin, and
> not hit anybody. Today, you can't find parking downtown at
> night. Houston's nightlife is on fire! Too bad Leapy Brown
> had to tear up all the downtown streets. If that job is
> ever finished, downtown will be a real showplace.
>
> In terms of size, Houston is the fourth largest city in the
> USA, in terms of population. However, in terms of square
> mileage, Houston is the largest city in the Western
> Hemisphere. We've got room!
>
>
> > High-brow, literate, catchy and cutting-edge spots are,
> > unfortunately, in short supply. They tend to make the
> > BillyBobs/Bobbettes stare blankly at the radio and
> > grunt..."Whu-u-u-tt?"
> >
>
> Perhaps, the "high-brow" segment of Houston prefers other
> forms of personal entertainment. With satellite radio and
> other, more appealing forms of personal entertainment, why
> bother with the impersonal medium of radio? Why suffer
> through clusters of six, seven, or even eight commercials in
> a row?
>
>
> > In spite of the howls of protest I know will tumble out,
> in
> > Houston, you go with what sells; that kind of "hoomer"
> does
> > just that. I research and produce both TV and Radio ad
> > campaigns for clients in Houston and across the US; we
> > conduct tons of focus groups, test marketing and
> comparison
> > marketing. "Hick Humor" sells better in Houston than any
> > other major city. Even Dallas scores higher.
> >
>
> Hey, I can identify with that. I produce radio and TV
> spots, day in and day out. One of the biggest frustrations
> I feel is that no one wants an "artfully done" radio
> commercial. The only thing clients want is the "Mattress
> Mack-scream-yell and pound-your-chest" kind of spot. All
> you can do is offer your input, and when the client rejects
> it, just do it their way. I'd rather have a satisfied
> client. It's the client who pays my invoices, not the
> thousands of armchair critics. And, that's what matters
> when I reconcile my checkbook.
>
> > And, please! Don't shoot the messenger. :)
>
> I'm not shooting, believe me. It's just that Houston has so
> much to offer. The fact that the "city fathers & mothers"
> are too dense to promote it only points out the poor choices
> we've made in selecting our city government. The Houston
> Convention and Visitors' Bureau needs new management. The
> Houston Film Commission is no more. That's a darned shame!
>
> Another thing about Houston I love is, it's a friendly city.
> My last trip to Chicago/Milwaukee last year emphasized
> that. Walk into almost any business up there, from hotels
> to retail, and most folks act like they're doing you a favor
> by being there. In Houston, you could be out shopping,
> socializing, or enjoying a happy hour somewhere, and find
> yourself rubbing shoulders with a millionaire who's 'just
> one of the gang'. Drive through River Oaks. You'll drive
> past seemingly enless rows of mansions, and you'll see more
> Chevy Suburbans parked out front than you will Rolls Royces.
> Sure, they're rich. But, the vast majority of those people
> are friendly and unpretentious. This is a city made up of
> good people. And, when the rest of the country suffers a
> recession, Houston doesn't bother to slow down. We just
> boogie on. And don't compare Houston to Dallas. Sure,
> there's a rivalry, of sorts, between the two cities. It's
> always been that way. It's all in fun, and nothing more.
> To compare Houston to Dallas is like comparing apples to
> oranges. We're not only two different cities, we're two
> different cultures. The best part is, we're both Texan, and
> that makes us both great places to live and work.
>
> Finally, since I've lived here most of my life, I can't
> begin to tell you what a warm feeling I get when I'm in a
> place like Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Atlanta, or even
> Honolulu and see the Lone Star displayed in some form or
> fashion. Does anyone know what the New York, California,
> Illinois, or Hawaii state flags look like?
>
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> Just for fun, I'll go back and see what I can find on "size"
> (of cities), again. The figures do change a lot. At one
> point, Sao Paulo, Brazil was the "big one" for the
> hemisphere. But, due to the faster economic growth, Houston
> moved out ahead. Jacksonville's square mileage is largely
> golf courses and wetlands.

You're right about these lists changing all the time. According to the latest list from City-data.com here are the top 10 cities by land area:

1 Sitka AK (2874.0 sq. mi.)
2 Juneau AK (2716.7 sq. mi.)
3 Anchorage AK (1697.2 sq. mi.)
4 Jacksonville FL (757.7 sq. mi.)
5 Anaconda-Deer Lodge County MT (737.0 sq. mi.)
6 Butte-Silver Bow MT (716.1 sq. mi.)
7 Willow AK (684.8 sq. mi.)
8 Healy AK (669.0 sq. mi.)
9 Oklahoma City OK (607.0 sq. mi.)
10 Houston TX (579.4 sq. mi.)

The top two are combined areas (city and surrounding borough), as are the two entries for Montana cities. The definition of a city comes into play here, and I believe that unless you change the name of the "combined" area, only the "city" part counts in terms of rank. Incidentally San Antonio was ranked 17th, Dallas 21st and Fort Worth 29th on the list.

In any event, even with the recent land acquisition by Houston it probably wouldn't push them that much further up the list. Now if you were talking about a combined Houston-Harris County (which would never, ever happen) it would come in third on the list with 1764 square miles. That wouldn't help with national recognition, though, since like you said the national media feels that it has to explain that Houston is in Texas, even if it is the fourth most populous city in the country.
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> > In terms of size, Houston is the fourth largest city in
> the
> > USA, in terms of population.
>
> While technically true, it's a somewhat dubious claim, since
> the population growth was acheived by annexing areas such as
> Clear Lake, Greenspoint, Kingwood, West Oaks, etc. against
> the will of people who lived there.
>

Sure, but that's how all major cities grew. And, you have to consider the fact that most of those people who ended up as "annex-ees" were making their livings in Houston, working for Houston-based firms. Now, if only the essential services got better AFTER annexation....we'd on on to something, eh?
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> I'm not entirely convinced that a consultant can truly serve a market with
> that sort of demeaning attitude about its people.
>

Great point! Then again, there are those people who blow into town for that "dream gig", take what they can, and move on, without contributing. Worse yet, they never take the time to notice all the terrific assets their community has, probably because they have no interest.

>
> P.S. Do I owe you an email, Guido? I think I do.
>

Ha! Yes you do. Bring it on!
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

Thanks for the great list! I can see that the "Great Land Grab" is still alive and well...and it seems to be going on everywhere, these days. Hey, land is the only thing worth owning, and no one knows that better than your various governments. There's no such thing as worthless land.

What's funny, or tragic, depending on how you look at it, is when a city grows beyond the signal strength of some of its radio stations. I remember when KNUZ (1230 AM) served all of Houston!
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> P.S. Do I owe you an email, Guido? I think I do.
>
>

Jeez...would you two just go get a room somewhere? :)
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> Could you break that down into mono-syllables for me? It's
> hard to understand those big words for us folks who's nephew
> is also their son. Hee - Haaaww !!!
>

Thanks for the humor; may I return the favor? I'd like to pay for your parents to get married. Umm...cousins CAN still marry in Houston, can't they? :)
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> > > However, in terms of square
> > > mileage, Houston is the largest city in the Western
> > > Hemisphere. We've got room!
> >
> >
> > Umm, recheck that. Jacksonville, FL & Anchorage, AK cover
>
> > more land area than Houston...and that's in the US only.
> >
> > G
> >
>
Jacksonville also annexed the city of Jax Beach, so it's included. There were also a good many charges of political gerrymandering involved in Jacksonville's expansion throughout the 70's and 80's (true or not), which could explain why some Duval County lines meander over hills and through streams and henhouses.
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> >
> Jacksonville also annexed the city of Jax Beach, so it's
> included. There were also a good many charges of political
> gerrymandering involved in Jacksonville's expansion
> throughout the 70's and 80's (true or not), which could
> explain why some Duval County lines meander over hills and
> through streams and henhouses.
>

There's a lot of beautiful land surrounding Jacksonville. On a quiet day, you can hear the distant sound of real estate developers drooling.
 
Re: In Houston, They're "Cow-mercials"

> > P.S. Do I owe you an email, Guido? I think I do.
> >
> >
>
> Jeez...would you two just go get a room somewhere? :)
>


Whatsa matter, Val? Feeling neglected, these days? Mojo and I are just friends......really!
 
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