comparing K-rock to the new 104.1 in CT

[Ozman]

for most this doesn't apply, but on k-rocks east side listening audience 104.1 is back in CT.
which do you suppose is better. I'd say 104.1 is better for now but I am sure that will change unfortunately, 104.1 doesn't make it as far as greenwich but dies in stamford

both are online
krockradio.com k-rock
http://1041music.com -the new station's website
radio104.com for the hell of it.. since its different than the new 104

-OZ

 

[Brooklyndon]

Do you think they'll be playin anit nuthin but g thang like they were every fifteen minutes before they flipped the first time?

 

[radio220]

once again....the "east side" of k-rock's audience, meaning lower fairfield county, you cannot pickup 104.1....go on a mountain somewhere or drive up past Bridgeport or up to Danbury, or get a car radio with EXCELLENT selectivity, then you'll pick it up in spots. The markets where K-Rock gets ratings aka Stamford and Bridgeport, really wont be affected and 104.1 doesn't market to those cities anyways.

 

[mjb1124]

I'm giving it a listen online, and so far it sounds like a clone of Radio 104.5 in Philly. Which means it's on the soft side and doesn't play much new music, but still brings a sound that is both more focused and less predictable than K-Rock. Then again, that's not difficult to achieve.

 

[p_herring]

Still not enough focus on new music but I love the wide range of gold cuts I'm seeing played, particularly the female-based ones (Mazzy Star, Frente, K's Choice). Oh well, guess I'll have to settle for wall-paper radio here in NYC.

 

[KML0224]

Gave K-Rock a listen when I was in Manhattan earlier today. It sounds a lot like 104.1 does, but with more Foo Fighters. (Ha ha!)

As for the east side of the market? Here's what I posted on the Connecticut board about my reception of both K-Rock and 104.1:

I came back from Manhattan early this afternoon. I left my Panasonic CD/AM/FM "Walkman" on 92.3 K-Rock up until about I-95 mile marker 20 in Westport. It was solid to decent to the Stamford/Greenwich city line. It got washed out completely in Stamford with the overload from the nearby 96.7 FM tower. It popped in a few more times and had almost nothing by Westport. At that point, I tuned over to the "new" 104.1 FM. I didn't really start getting a useable signal until Stratford or so. The signal was hardly there at all in the parking lot of New Haven's Union Station. Once I got onto CT Route 34, past the ominous lot that was the Coliseum, the signal came back solid and was good the whole way up I-91.

 

[Ozman]

when 96.7 moves to NY I bet 104.1 Might make it to greenwich... any guesses? where I live in old greenwich is approximately 50 miles from radio 104.1's transmitter.. you have to also remeber that NYC is approximately 29 miles away. If it was not for the straight shot of water AKA the terrain to NYC, I bet all the CT station's would be making some kind of noise here in stamford/greenwich like they do on long island.

Gave K-Rock a listen when I was in Manhattan earlier today. It sounds a lot like 104.1 does, but with more Foo Fighters. (Ha ha!)

As for the east side of the market? Here's what I posted on the Connecticut board about my reception of both K-Rock and 104.1:

I came back from Manhattan early this afternoon. I left my Panasonic CD/AM/FM "Walkman" on 92.3 K-Rock up until about I-95 mile marker 20 in Westport. It was solid to decent to the Stamford/Greenwich city line. It got washed out completely in Stamford with the overload from the nearby 96.7 FM tower. It popped in a few more times and had almost nothing by Westport. At that point, I tuned over to the "new" 104.1 FM. I didn't really start getting a useable signal until Stratford or so. The signal was hardly there at all in the parking lot of New Haven's Union Station. Once I got onto CT Route 34, past the ominous lot that was the Coliseum, the signal came back solid and was good the whole way up I-91.

 

[radio220]

They will not make it any farther because there are stations in NYC off the Empire State with adjacent frequencies aka 104.3 taking over 104.1's signal. The height of the NYC signals being 400 meters up, which is twice as much as the Hartford's, gives them an advantage as well. 96.7's tower has nothing to do with any of those signals not coming in, maybe 96.3 or 97.1 immediately around the tower.

 

[Ozman]

the RF from 96.7 could make a little bit of a difference but not too much you are probably right on that one.

They will not make it any farther because there are stations in NYC off the Empire State with adjacent frequencies aka 104.3 taking over 104.1's signal. The height of the NYC signals being 400 meters up, which is twice as much as the Hartford's, gives them an advantage as well. 96.7's tower has nothing to do with any of those signals not coming in, maybe 96.3 or 97.1 immediately around the tower.

 

[ansky212]

when 96.7 moves to NY I

When is 96.7 moving to NY?

 

[radio220]

I'm not so sure that they are moving the TOWER to NY, just the COL. It would make no sense to target a market where your tower doesn't even exist in, yet the same state.

 

[Brooklyndon]

I gave K-Rock a listen this weekend on the bus out to Rockaway beach...

They seemed to have improved, in that they aren't playing all the classic rock anymore, but they still were playing 90's anthems which are tired and chores to hear, like Sublime's What I got.

I guess my taste in music is so refined that I'll never hear what I want on the radio, ie a mix of 80's british new wave with todays british nu rave, and the odd american band that plays in an 80's influenced style which sounds like nu rave. But more than likely I'll just have to stick to my Williamsburg haunts to her quality music.

 

[p_herring]

I gave K-Rock a listen this weekend on the bus out to Rockaway beach...

They seemed to have improved, in that they aren't playing all the classic rock anymore, but they still were playing 90's anthems which are tired and chores to hear, like Sublime's What I got.

I guess my taste in music is so refined that I'll never hear what I want on the radio, ie a mix of 80's british new wave with todays british nu rave, and the odd american band that plays in an 80's influenced style which sounds like nu rave. But more than likely I'll just have to stick to my Williamsburg haunts to her quality music.

I'm pretty sure Williamsburg Brooklyn people aren't really the target for K-Rock (but hey, what do I know?) That being said, I agree that there are way too many gold cuts being played on the station. There should at least be 3-4 currents an hour (with at least two "new" songs thrown in). It really boggles my mind as to why this station can't get that right.

 

[Ozman]

My questions:
1st off Iv'e been stuck in Vt but its because I am doing what I love which is radio and I'd like to go somewhere in My life with it.
2nd. why the Hell does k-rock play that Jam rock song every 4 hours... i am so sick of it!, yet I am in Vt except 2 weekends i visited and an occasional online listen
3rd.. what the hell happened to the hair metal like they used to play in May? as the summer went on the playlist got duller
4th... do the even have a music director? .. they might be programming it out of L.A. the last I heard.
5. my signature at the bottom say's at all !

-OZ

 

[mikesingh]

4th... do the even have a music director? .. they might be programming it out of L.A. the last I heard.

Yes they do... according to the website (http://www.923krock.com/Station-Info/500411), it's Mike Tierney who is the MD/APD. They also have Danni who was a former co-host of the K-ROCK/FREE FM version of "The Booker Show" and former K-ROCK DJ is currently the Music/Programming Coordinator.

Kevin Weatherly who is the PD (I believe) of KROQ in LA was in NYC to oversee the launch and acted as the PD for a little while since they did not yet hire a PD at the time... Tracy Cloherty is the current PD.

 

[p_herring]

My questions:
1st off Iv'e been stuck in Vt but its because I am doing what I love which is radio and I'd like to go somewhere in My life with it.
2nd. why the Hell does k-rock play that Jam rock song every 4 hours... i am so sick of it!, yet I am in Vt except 2 weekends i visited and an occasional online listen
3rd.. what the hell happened to the hair metal like they used to play in May? as the summer went on the playlist got duller
4th... do the even have a music director? .. they might be programming it out of L.A. the last I heard.
5. my signature at the bottom say's at all !

-OZ

1) Congratulations.
2) Good question, I have no idea (is it even a current?)
3) Hair metal has no place on this format. It was lame even in the 80's, there's no excuse to play it now. Plus we already have a classic rock station here in New York. Why not use the time that you want them to play hair metal as a time to play new songs
4) They do, but they are doing a terrible job.

 

[Brooklyndon]

I gave K-Rock a listen this weekend on the bus out to Rockaway beach...

They seemed to have improved, in that they aren't playing all the classic rock anymore, but they still were playing 90's anthems which are tired and chores to hear, like Sublime's What I got.

I guess my taste in music is so refined that I'll never hear what I want on the radio, ie a mix of 80's british new wave with todays british nu rave, and the odd american band that plays in an 80's influenced style which sounds like nu rave. But more than likely I'll just have to stick to my Williamsburg haunts to her quality music.

I'm pretty sure Williamsburg Brooklyn people aren't really the target for K-Rock (but hey, what do I know?)

Sometimes it sounds like even k-Rock doesn't know what their target is. Sometime it sounds like they are aiming for the high end of the 18-34 demo with the slowed down Eddie Vedder, sometimes it sounds like they are aiming at the middle of the 18-24 when they play Cold War Kids, sometimes it sounds like they sound like they are aiming for the younger end of the demo with Breaking Benjamin, and other times it sounds like they are catering outside of their demos, with teen-pop screamo.

Where does that leave K-Rock? Searching for bands people born between 1973 and 1989 can agree are cool. This group encompasses those who were just coming of age during Woodstock '94 and are just coming of age today. Because this group splits the grundge era, K-Rock is in an awkward positions. Songs like Jeremy and Alive may well be classic rock to this group, but Dissident and Nothingman are modern. Same situation applies to songs like Rusty Cage and Fell on Black Days.

So where does that leave K-Rock? With a proven core of Foo Fighters, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Green Day, and Linkin Park. Solid core artists. But the station lacks any continuity with the past, its willing to acknowledge the years between 91-95 for select bands, but seems to refuse to play songs from 95-2003. Even Z-100 throws in a late 90's track hear and there. I'm okay if K-Rck wants to pretend Nu Metal never happened, but it should feel free to tap with mid nineties alternative well. Maybe I'd like to hear Ruby Soho rather than What I got every once in a while, its a proven hit from the past, but hasn't been played a billion times over and over and over since it came out.

And oh yeah, they need to increase the list of currents.