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Comparing Mike and some Jacks

I was in Los Angeles last week, and was able to check out their Jack FM station. And let me tell you, it makes Mike FM pale in comparison.

As many of you know, KCBS-FM experienced a large growth in listeners since they dumped classic rock for Jack. The music blend was quite good, I'd say the basis was of the station was 80's and 90's rock hits, with a sprinkling of some 70's music. I don't recall hearing any real current stuff, either. 93.1 Jack FM stayed away from most rhythmic tracks as well. One song I heard twice, though, Tone Loc's "Funky Cold Medina", seemed quite out of place. I'm not a big fan of the retro-sounding jingles that Jack and Mike use, and KCBS did not use them at all (that I heard).

I also got to hear KKJJ/Las Vegas and KFMB-FM/San Diego. "100.7 Jack FM" in San Diego frankly didn't sound too much like a Jack to me. Songs like Pink's "My Own Worst Enemy" just seemed out of place, and the voice of this Jack was about 50% Howard Cogan and 50% some lady who only said "Jack FM". Looking at the playlist online right now, the station looks like a Jack, but when I listened it sounded like a Hot AC that wanted cost-cutting. They also used a ton of the "we play what we want, on Jack F-M-" jingles, which I didn't really care for either. However, KFMB-FM is locally owned and not part of Infinity, so I'm certain that is why the station is so different from the other two.

I didn't hear KKJJ, "100.5 Jack FM", in Las Vegas too long, but it sounded pretty good. I was unfamiliar with a few of the songs which the station played, but the station seemed overall quite good. KKJJ played many listener calls, all positive, and wasn't bad on the jingles.

One thing that I liked about KKJJ and KCBS were the amount of local references and the like. These Jacks have tons of them, and they are far better than "The Big Dig has a bunch of dirt, and, uh, we have a bunch of songs" and "more hits than Whitey Bulger". KCBS' legal ID goes "KCBS-FM Los Angeles. Broadcasting from a dumpy little building in beautiful Culver City, this is 93.1 Jack FM." One that I can recall, going to commercial on KCBS, was "Everyone in Southern California spends more than they make. Here's some suggestions". Jack pokes fun at the commercials, which just made the station more interesting to listen to and I guess the commercials more bearable.

One last thing is the voice and additude of Jack. On all of the Jack stations, Cogan makes Jack sound like a guy that's just laid back and enjoys having fun and playing music. Nothing against Mike's voice-over guy, but he frankly sounds like an (insert explative for annoying person here) compared to Jack.

I've said enough in the past about how much I'd like to see Jack in Boston, even with Mike, but Mike just seems set up to flop. Right now, Mike is playing Justin Timberlake's "Rock Your Body". KCBS and KKJJ would not be caught dead playing this song, and I'd doubt that it's in heavy rotation on KFMB-FM. Jack's variety of songs is much better, the voice is better, the presentation is better; frankly, I can't think of anything that Mike does better than Jack. I'd bet that even a simulcast of KCBS-FM could probably beat Mike in the ratings.
 
> One last thing is the voice and additude of Jack. On all of
> the Jack stations, Cogan makes Jack sound like a guy that's
> just laid back and enjoys having fun and playing music.
> Nothing against Mike's voice-over guy, but he frankly sounds
> like an (insert explative for annoying person here) compared
> to Jack.

Since Mike is the only variety station I've really heard, I've nothing to compare it to. How long I listen depends on what's on. For me, it's a button-pusher but I have to say I keep coming back more often when I'm in that mood because of the unpredictability. I'm still doubtful about the long-term prospects for success for these formats but from a listener standpoint I like it.

As far as Mike's voice, at first I thought he would get old quickly but I think he's taken on a personality of his own between the almost deadpan delivery & corny liners that no live jock would be caught dead saying. I think it's a good idea if you insist on being jockless to at least establish the station's voice as one that has some kind of personality even if it's one that basically delivers bad one-liners. I wonder how many listeners actually wait to see what doofus thing he's going to say next.
 
As a former Boston resident (now living on Long Island) I'd have to agree with the first post...

My biggest gripe about Jack when it began (and to this day) is the lack of air personalities...however, any other complaints I had have been proved wrong.

Infinity, who is leading the Jack crusade, seems to be doing it best. Here in NYC, with WCBS 101.1 Jack-FM, it is very similar to what was described in L.A. The music variety is strong...there is some rhythmic (Madonna - Vogue, Pink - Get the Party Started, Bobby Brown - My Perogative), but it doesn't seem out of place, because after all, this is variety hits radio. I even heard Elvis Presley - Fools Rush In one afternoon. I haven't listened to Mike that much, so i don't know if the music selection has been altered at all...

What I've really found though, is that image is everything. If I put Mike-FM on back home, maybe the music isn't quite as good, or maybe it is...but regardless, the imaging and voice of the station just doesn't seem as fun...I can honestly say I've occasionally found myself laughing out loud a little to some of the lines uttered by the voice of Jack...he's sarcastic, pokes fun at the commercials: "Ok, odds or evens...odds I play commercials, evens you get more music...huh, looks like I win again." I don't know what it is, but the whole feel of Mike doesn't generate as much enjoyment for me as Jack does, and hence, if I'm happy, I'm less likely to flip stations, unless I'm getting bored...

~RM
 
> I even heard Elvis Presley - Fools Rush
> In one afternoon.

Are you sure it wasn't Rick Nelson? Never knew Elvis did the song...certainly never was a hit by him.
 
> As many of you know, KCBS-FM experienced a large growth in
> listeners since they dumped classic rock for Jack. The music
> blend was quite good, I'd say the basis was of the station
> was 80's and 90's rock hits, with a sprinkling of some 70's
> music. I don't recall hearing any real current stuff,
> either. 93.1 Jack FM stayed away from most rhythmic tracks
> as well.

> I've said enough in the past about how much I'd like to see
> Jack in Boston, even with Mike, but Mike just seems set up
> to flop. Right now, Mike is playing Justin Timberlake's
> "Rock Your Body". KCBS and KKJJ would not be caught dead
> playing this song, and I'd doubt that it's in heavy rotation
> on KFMB-FM. Jack's variety of songs is much better, the
> voice is better, the presentation is better; frankly, I
> can't think of anything that Mike does better than Jack. I'd
> bet that even a simulcast of KCBS-FM could probably beat
> Mike in the ratings.
>


You seem to have contradicted yourself here. First you said that KCBS is mostly rock hits with very little current or rhythmic product. Then you claimed more variety than on Mike, which plays both. If it's mostly rock, it really isn't "variety" imho.

Mike has grown on me. Didn't care for them at first...the music mix seemed a bit schizophrenic (hearing an early 70s pop tune into an unfamiliar altrock song into some disco, etc.), but they seem to have (for the most part) gotten away that.
 
> You seem to have contradicted yourself here. First you said
> that KCBS is mostly rock hits with very little current or
> rhythmic product. Then you claimed more variety than on
> Mike, which plays both. If it's mostly rock, it really
> isn't "variety" imho.
>
> Mike has grown on me. Didn't care for them at first...the
> music mix seemed a bit schizophrenic (hearing an early 70s
> pop tune into an unfamiliar altrock song into some disco,
> etc.), but they seem to have (for the most part) gotten away
> that.

But the problem is that extensive variety just doesn't work; look at Nine FM in Chicago. It has a huge variety, but it's too big for a listener to like every (or at least most) of the songs.

KCBS has a contained variety; other than the noted "Funky Cold Medina", the blend and variety (of rock hits) was very good. Most of the "train-wreck" segues weren't really bad; the Police into Dave Matthews sounds actually quite good.

It's Mike's emphasis on 70's classic rock, disco, and awkward 00's stuff that seems to me to be a problem. I've heard Everclear on Mike, but songs like Dave Matthews Band's "Ants Marching" are a good staple on KCBS while they are just a song on Mike.

I'd expect that in the end, the ratings will decide the fate of Mike. Currently, KCBS has made huge strides in the Los Angeles market, and was launched less than month before Mike (March 17). KCBS definately had a better lead-in audience from classic hits "Arrow 93.1", though. I'd hope Mike to make some strides in this next ratings book. If the station starts going into the 1's, Entercom must be looking into tweaking the music blend or something else (93.7/103.7 WEEI-FM)? Enabling 98.5 Jack FM?
 
Elvis called it "Can't Help Falling In Love"...and it was a #1 hit for him...so I'd assume you've heard the song before....
 
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