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comparing NYC Active Rock to Boston, Providence, Hartford, Philly...

wow.. I'm in Boston for the day Listening to WBCN.. I do that anyways from my outside antenna in St Johnsbury VT 160 Mi Away ( your guess is as good as mine how in the world I get it...) but I wanted to Try to compare NYC Ie 92.3 k-rock and q 104.3 to other markets for the playlist. WSOU kicks butt but does not make it north of NYC say to like CT where I am based out of so I can't really add them to the list. I was noticing already that WAAF, and WBCN play a majority of songs that k-rock does not play or used to play... The same is going from my current location Wrentham MA where I get 95.5 WBRU and 94.1 WHJY. Also on my weeks of travel, I go through Hartford and Springfield Ma where I am getting the same thing with 106.9 WCCC,102.1 WAQY Springfield, Lazer 99.3 and WAAF depending on where you are and if they ever put their signal back on Paxton MA. I would give you guys a playlist but I could be here all day. the only thought I have for K-rock with their shortened stale playlist is No competition, trying to please the shareholders... (What shareholders these days?) and advertisers. as for q 1-104.3 great station however I am more focused on active rock. (rock 102.1 has alice Cooper on nights...)
thoughts?
 
Please, 93.5 The Beach blows them all out of the water! exceptions are CCC and lazer, they still lean very active. As far as i'm concerned AAF is a joke, and don't even get me started on 92.3 lame-rock, haven't turned them on in a while and don't plan on anytime soon. Although there's a rumor of them possibly going alternative in 09, I won't take my chances to subject my ears to such garbage. Just my thoughts. Give the beach a listen at www.wzbhrocks.com ny'ers will be impressed.
 
I agree completely with Hardrocker 9. 93.5 The Beach is what an Active Rock station should sound like - a deep playlist with lots of heavier rock bands thrown in. Calling K-Rock "Active" or "Alternative" is complete ludicrous. They don't sound quite like 94.1 WYSP in Philly but they're pretty close - for all intents and purposes, they're a slightly younger leaning classic rock (more like chicken rock) station with maybe a handful of new songs thrown in. Their low ratings have nothing to do with NYC not being a rock market as some have claimed, but rather the rock stations available in NYC being embarrassments to the formats they supposedly represent. Some people may also claim that fans of rock music subscribe to Sirius XM - I would say that their low subscriber rates again prove otherwise. The fact is that the options that NYC rock fans have are weak, and I feel that both RXP and K-Rock would be wise to shift to Alternative and Active Rock respectively, and if the latter patterns itself after The Beach, it will earn solid ratings - there's no reason a station like that with this signal can't receive shares in the 3's or even low 4's.
 
Hardrocker9 knows nothing about rock. He should listen to Wbab or wrcn on Long Island to hear real rock. He should open his ears. !!!
 
WBAB, WFOX, WRKI (I can barely get in Greenwich unless their main tower is off), (WPLR vagely) all sound the dame stale Rock/Classic Rock I wouldn't really call it active rock but more like "melow rock" bands like Godsmack for example are not played on these stations...

As for WZBH That station Kicks some serious ass!!! I listen to in on my way to Virgina Beach. good ole Route 13 I can get that station for a goood 2-3 hours from Virgina to almost the Deleware Bay Bridge.
remember what I say is just IMHO.

hamNcheese said:
Hardrocker9 said:
Hardrocker9 knows nothing about rock. He should listen to Wbab or wrcn on Long Island to hear real rock. He should open his ears. !!!


WRCN is Rock again?
 
SoulCrusher said:
I agree completely with Hardrocker 9. 93.5 The Beach is what an Active Rock station should sound like - a deep playlist with lots of heavier rock bands thrown in. Calling K-Rock "Active" or "Alternative" is complete ludicrous. They don't sound quite like 94.1 WYSP in Philly but they're pretty close - for all intents and purposes, they're a slightly younger leaning classic rock (more like chicken rock) station with maybe a handful of new songs thrown in. Their low ratings have nothing to do with NYC not being a rock market as some have claimed, but rather the rock stations available in NYC being embarrassments to the formats they supposedly represent. Some people may also claim that fans of rock music subscribe to Sirius XM - I would say that their low subscriber rates again prove otherwise. The fact is that the options that NYC rock fans have are weak, and I feel that both RXP and K-Rock would be wise to shift to Alternative and Active Rock respectively, and if the latter patterns itself after The Beach, it will earn solid ratings - there's no reason a station like that with this signal can't receive shares in the 3's or even low 4's.

I don't know if an active rocker could do 3's or 4's here in New York but I bet it could perform decently well. The thing is, it'd have to a be an all new station, with a clean slate. Listeners are so fed up with K-Rock that they associate it with crappy, safe, redundant radio. A new station could play the angle of being "NOT K-Rock" and gain listeners that way.
 
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