Computer (voice) as Host/"Talent"

[TheBigA]

How close in style can the vocals/song be (the Vanilla Ice situation ~30 years ago):

That's up to the judge. In the case you cite, Vanilla Ice ultimately gave credit and a portion of the royalties to the original artists.

In today's litigious world, it behooves the DJ or whoever to offer the credit and split before it goes to court. Because they will be sued. Just as computers can mimic music, computers can also be used to detect a copy.

 

[PTBoardOp94]

Regardless of the artistic issues, there are also legal issues. This DJ is creating a vocal "in the style of Eminem."

In the past, this kind of thing has been difficult to prove. How many bands began to emulate The Beatles in the 1960s, and ended up losing a lawsuit of this sort?

But... if you literally tell the bot "in the style of Destiny's Child", that does seem to be a different case.

 

[SomeRadioGuy]

Weatherology (Which offers weather forecasts to stations) does this as far as I can tell

The station I work for has a service where a 'voice' does the weather forecast, time and temperature. It's straight out of a computer and sensitive to local names/places. While I joke she sounds much like Alexa, it's a bunch of words spoken by a real person assembled by the computer as needed. I appreciate how the station has it worked up. Nothing is worse than a Tornado Watch where every word is read (including the 48 counties in the watch area). Ours simply says "for our listening area" or only for the counties affected (we only reach 5 counties). The interesting thing is one program I looked at for another station a couple of years ago had the ability to rephrase the forecast or severe weather warning each time it aired. I don't recall the number of variations before repeating.

We use Weatherology on KLMI... and i just discovered that WEatherology has a smartphone app good for any city anywhere.. and theyll even read your forecast to you and you can choose the meteorologist that reads your forecast.. even works for me in mcgrath

 

[Kelly A]

How close in style can the vocals/song be (the Vanilla Ice situation ~30 years ago):

Ice Ice Baby - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Here's a recent copyright example where two artists lost:

Robin Thicke, Pharrell Williams to pay $5 million in final "Blurred Lines" verdict

The five-year legal battle has ended with a verdict in favor of Martin Gaye's estate, who sued claiming "Blurred Lines" copied Gaye's "Got To Give It Up"

www.nbcnews.com

 

[boombox4]

That's up to the judge. In the case you cite, Vanilla Ice ultimately gave credit and a portion of the royalties to the original artists.

In today's litigious world, it behooves the DJ or whoever to offer the credit and split before it goes to court. Because they will be sued. Just as computers can mimic music, computers can also be used to detect a copy.

Vanilla Ice actually bought the song used in the sample. Problem solved.

 

[TheBigA]

Vanilla Ice actually bought the song used in the sample. Problem solved.

Not exactly true. A judge required Ice to pay Bowie & Queen $4 million plus their share of all future royalties. Bowie & Queen still own the original song.

 

[kfbkfb]

What's the end game, maybe use another AI based system to evaluate songs?


Kirk Bayne

 

[kevtronics]

Regardless of the artistic issues, there are also legal issues. This DJ is creating a vocal "in the style of Eminem."

Soundalike albums have been around since the 1950s. AI simply allows them to sound even more like the original artist.

Think You’re Listening to Maroon 5? You’re Not.

Digital music platforms are filled with “soundalikes” — duplicitous remakes motivated not by artistry, but by money

medium.com

 

[boombox4]

Not exactly true. A judge required Ice to pay Bowie & Queen $4 million plus their share of all future royalties. Bowie & Queen still own the original song.

Vanilla Ice told Dan Patrick that he bought the song.

 

[TheBigA]

Vanilla Ice told Dan Patrick that he bought the song.

He has problems remembering the truth. That's a nice way of putting it.

After that interview aired, another article came out with the other side of the story:

Vanilla Ice Claims He Owns Queen's 'Under Pressure'

Vanilla Ice claimed he owns Queen's 'Under Pressure' in July 2017.

ultimateclassicrock.com

A spokesman for Queen tells Ultimate Classic Rock that Vanilla Ice's statement is inaccurate. "An arrangement was made whereby the publishing in the song was shared."

Here are the songwriting credits on the song:

Songwriters: David Bowie, Brian May, Freddie Mercury, John Deacon, Roger Taylor, Mario Johnson, Robert Van Winkle, Floyd Brown.

So as you can see, they all share writers credits, and they each get paid an equal amount when the song is played. As I said, Ice paid $4 million, so he may think that gave him 100%, but it didn't.

This is why I say any of this AI stuff is opening a huge can of worms as far as who owns what and how they get paid.

 

[Kelly A]

He has problems remembering the truth. That's a nice way of putting it.

Terms like: d*uche or loser come to mind. The guy couldn't even keep a reality show on HGTV.

 

[kfbkfb]

AI-generated Drake and The Weeknd song goes viral

The track, which has not been approved by either musician, has been viewed eight million times on TikTok.

www.bbc.com

^^^
...a broad coalition of musicians and artists have launched a "Human Artistry Campaign", whose aim is to ensure artificial intelligence will not "erode" human creativity.


(other thread about computer written songs is closed [too old I guess])


Kirk Bayne

 

[kevtronics]

I just found this LP at the thrift store. It is not by the Beatles, and "the Manchesters" weren't even British.

 

[kwthom]

I just found this LP at the thrift store. It is not by the Beatles, and "the Manchesters" weren't even British.

Thousands of "cover bands" have been out there for generations.

 

[kfbkfb]

Maybe the social media originated "blue checkmark" could be used for recorded media - this song/album is actually by the artist and not a computer.


Kirk Bayne