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Conan on CTV

OhioMediaWatch

OhioMediaWatch

A quick check of the CTV website shows that "Conan" will air at 1 AM ET (!!). That's actually later than the start for his original NBC "Late Night" show!

Question: Will U.S. cable systems that carry CTV black out this show?
 
jnorth said:
FYI it's also on Comedy Network at 11PM EST
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I saw that, though they've apparently moved that airing to midnight EST. They were gonna move "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" up to 10 PM to make room for Conan at 11, but I guess airlng before the first U.S. airing was a non-starter.
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
A quick check of the CTV website shows that "Conan" will air at 1 AM ET (!!). That's actually later than the start for his original NBC "Late Night" show!

Question: Will U.S. cable systems that carry CTV black out this show?
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1:05 actually. The 11:30 news likes to end at 12:05 moving things over by 5 minutes.
I think they took lessons from TBS ;)
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
jnorth said:
FYI it's also on Comedy Network at 11PM EST
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I saw that, though they've apparently moved that airing to midnight EST. They were gonna move "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" up to 10 PM to make room for Conan at 11, but I guess airlng before the first U.S. airing was a non-starter.
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As far as I know, it's not acceptable to get ahead of American programming in Canada.
 
I'd check the Comedy Network schedule online, but their deal with Comedy Central means you can't even access the Comedy Network site in the U.S. (or the Comedy Central site in Canada).
 
Yeziknoradio said:
As far as I know, it's not acceptable to get ahead of American programming in Canada.
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Used to be in the past, Canadian stations would show some US programs or movies before they air in the US (usually a couple days or so). The simsub laws changed all that -- they now try to schedule US programming at the same time as the US networks, so the cable systems could be forced to replace the US signal with the Canadian station.

OhioMediaWatch said:
I'd check the Comedy Network schedule online, but their deal with Comedy Central means you can't even access the Comedy Network site in the U.S. (or the Comedy Central site in Canada).
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Could anyone who's neither American nor Canadian access either site?

For those who can't get Comedy Network for their schedules, try zap2it.com -- use "M5J 1A7" for the zip code (that's the post code for city hall in Toronto).
 
Ah, I forgot about the all-important simsub. But CC may not even have the shows (TDS/TCR) AVAILABLE for Comedy Network at 10. I don't know what editing lead time there is, or when the shows tape (I believe they tape at around 5-6 PM ET or so, like most "late night" shows do in the U.S.).

azumanga said:
Could anyone who's neither American nor Canadian access either site?

For those who can't get Comedy Network for their schedules, try zap2it.com -- use "M5J 1A7" for the zip code (that's the post code for city hall in Toronto).
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As noted, I am actually able to access comedynetwork.ca on this connection (a U.S. cell phone). I know it had been redirecting to Comedy Central in the past.

Maybe they relaxed it a bit, and only block/redirect online video now.
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
Question: Will U.S. cable systems that carry CTV black out this show?
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Time Warner never blacks out the Canadian CTV and CBC networks we get on cable in Upstate NY. They've been pulling them in OTA for years and I don't think anybody pays attention. Im not even sure what the rules are for that. CTV usually has the same exact show that a US network has at the same time. Another funny this is that CTV is usually several seconds ahead in the program due to the digital lag from the US networks, since they are still bringing in CTV/CBC in analog.

CBC/CKWS usually looks pretty decent since the transmitter in Kingston isn't far from the cable headend, but the CTV/CJOH-6 transmitter is a ways away and its always ghosting. I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped drawing this channel in soon since its basically all US programming and Ottawa news/commercials. But i guess we will see what the DTV transition in Canada does for the cable company.
 
I'm wondering the same about carriage of CBET/9 (CBC Windsor) here in the states.

TWC Northwest Ohio dropped it a year or so ago, part of an overall process that saw them pare many "out of market" local stations in fringe areas. (The same process saw TWC Mid-Ohio dump NBC affiliate WCMH/4 Columbus in areas like Mansfield/Ashland, which is on the far southwestern edge of the Cleveland market.)

Toledo-based Buckeye Cablevision still carries CBET, presumably picking up the analog 9 OTA signal. They also then feed that down to Sandusky, where they run what used to be called Erie County Cablevision.

As for the blackout, I believe I have watched both TDS and TCR on CTV while in Buffalo, but I can't remember if it was OTA or cable. I seem to recall that TWC's Dunkirk/Fredonia system actively blacks out U.S. syndicated shows on CTV/CFTO.
 
The CBC and CTV signals being on cable in Upstate NY date back to the days when cable was first starting out and acted as the community antenna system as well as bringing in satellite channels as the technology became available. These two Kingston signals come in decently in Watertown, NY with an antenna and so early cable providers distributed them. The same is true in the Potsdam and Massena markets. But Ottawa's newer channels (global, etc) haven't been added there.

They are also still pulling in CBOT as an analog channel in Potsdam/Massena, despite the fact that CBOT has a digital signal and no plans of going back to channel 4 yet Time Warner hasn't switched to the digital signal. The ghosting and lack of channel in the digital tier is how you can tell. And with CBOT analog scheduled to be off next year, what will happen? I can't see them putting any money into these receiving these channels with the abundance of channels on cable nowadays, and I don't think people will care. After all nobody has made a fit about TWC not carrying Global, City, etc all of which are available OTA in the area from Ottawa.
 
There is one factor which may keep those stations on cable in U.S. border towns - hockey.

"Hockey Night in Canada" is very popular in Detroit, and is one reason CBET has even been added to newer systems like AT&T U-verse.
 
spunker88 said:
CBC/CKWS usually looks pretty decent since the transmitter in Kingston isn't far from the cable headend, but the CTV/CJOH-6 transmitter is a ways away and its always ghosting. I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped drawing this channel in soon since its basically all US programming and Ottawa news/commercials. But i guess we will see what the DTV transition in Canada does for the cable company.
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While doing some research for another thread, I was looking up the Time Warner channel line-up for Aroostook County in northern Maine...they apparently have dumped CKLT Saint John (CTV Atlantic) from the line-up, though they do get Canadian channels CBAT Fredericton (CBC), CBAFT Moncton (Radio-Canada) and CIMT Riviere-du-Loup (TVA); most likely the latter two are carried due to the fact that there are a lot of people in the St. John River Valley of Acadian/French-Canadian descent on both sides of the river. And Bangor also carries CBC on their cableco, from CBMT Montreal.
 
I heard that the cable system in Bangor carries CBC programming. But it isn't CBC Channel 4 from New Brunswick, it's CBMT 6 from Montreal. That's odd. I wonder how they get the signal?

The Maine TV Guide used to carry listings for both CBC 4 and CTV 9 in New Brunswick for viewers near the Canadian border. And I believe a few cable systems in Maine (Lewiston area?) and New Hampshire (Manchester area?) may still carry Radio-Canada CKSH 9 from Sherbrooke for their French-Canadian clients. Again, I wonder how they get the signal?


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Gregg said:
I heard that the cable system in Bangor carries CBC programming. But it isn't CBC Channel 4 from New Brunswick, it's CBMT 6 from Montreal. That's odd. I wonder how they get the signal?
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They get it via satellite. Many cable systems in Michigan (notably the Charter systems in Bay City, Midland, Alpena and Marquette) also carry CBMT.

Gregg said:
I believe a few cable systems in Maine (Lewiston area?) and New Hampshire (Manchester area?) may still carry Radio-Canada CKSH 9 from Sherbrooke for their French-Canadian clients. Again, I wonder how they get the signal?
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In this case, I believe they get it via microwave. As for how -- search me.
 
azumanga said:
They get it via satellite. Many cable systems in Michigan (notably the Charter systems in Bay City, Midland, Alpena and Marquette) also carry CBMT.
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Correct, and verified as recently as a year or two ago.

I still haven't gotten an answer as to why those Michigan systems carry CBMT, when CBET in Windsor is MUCH closer.
 
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