Concern for Title of New Program from the Travel Channel

[Mario500]

The Travel Channel recently announced a new TV program they would begin broadcasting on a regular basis by July titled "Best Daym Take-Out" (with Daymon Patterson of the YouTube channel "Daym Drops" hosting). I believe the title's resemblance to a certain phrase involving a word used in cursing was intentional, even though the host pronounced the "Daym" part with a long "a" sound (like "dame") in one of his YouTube videos. I hope the Travel Channel promotes the program with the word "Daym" pronounced the way the host pronounced it. Personally I would have rejected the title of the program and suggested "Takeout with Daymon".

 

[KeithE4]

The Travel Channel recently announced a new TV program they would begin broadcasting on a regular basis by July titled "Best Daym Take-Out" (with Daymon Patterson of the YouTube channel "Daym Drops" hosting). I believe the title's resemblance to a certain phrase involving a word used in cursing was intentional, even though the host pronounced the "Daym" part with a long "a" sound (like "dame") in one of his YouTube videos. I hope the Travel Channel promotes the program with the word "Daym" pronounced the way the host pronounced it. Personally I would have rejected the title of the program and suggested "Takeout with Daymon".

So what? You don't remember The Best Damn Sports Show, Period on Fox Sports Net (although some people - notably Thom Brennaman - left out the third word when promoting the show on FSN games)?

This isn't 1955. Most folks aren't offended by the word "damn" or anything that might come close to it in some people's minds. Nothing wrong with the title, especially considering it uses the guy's real name.

 

[ShawnHill1]

Concern by others, or concern by you?

I take it that you were probably offended by FSN's old "Best Damn Sports Show" as well, huh?

Edit: Keith beat me to the punch...

 

[Mario500]

I was aware of the program from FOX Sports Net before my original post. As for my using the word "concern" in the title of this discussion, I was referring to my own concern.

 

[Morgan Wick]

What is it about these boards that attracts the prudes? Probably the same thing that attracts classic TV fans...

 

[ShawnHill1]

I like to believe that we're all mature adults here, and if it's your choice to whether or not to use profanity, that's absolutely understandable. I personally use some choice words here and there, but I have the common decency and courtesy to police myself when warranted. Believe me, there are a lot worse profane words than "damn" or any variation of it.

To bottom line this, Mario...you don't have to play the "grammar" or "profanity" police around here. I've posting on these boards for a number of years, and I've always believed that our fellow posters have done a pretty damn good job (sorry, I couldn't resist ;D ) filtering their thoughts without intently being offending someone else.

We're all human here...live a little

 

[w00t]

So, in the interest of fairness for Mario...

I've noticed that these boards draw a significant number of people who have disabilities, especially those who are homebound (understandably so). Mario may have some sort of autism or social disorder that precludes him from seeing some of this as a "gray area" the way the rest of us do.

Benefit of the doubt - give him a break, guys. If it annoys you that much just ignore him.

 

[quadraphonic]

In more fairness to consider in the gray areas (which like w00t said can be ignored by either extreme)...
Does that dude go by "Daym" in real life? Sounds contrived. If he does, that joke's got to get old. Is his life a series of six-week runs through friends, or nicknames? Hmmm.....

It seems like a stretch to make that the title of the show, just to be "edgy."
Does that title make the show worth watching? Who's going to be the advertising targets for that (Godaddy? Hardee's/Carl's Jr.?, Larry Flynt's PAC? Rapper Cognac?).
Any number of people attracted to a show by an edgy (some would say "profane") title are probably going to be outnumbered by "the prudes" who really don't see how it helps and won't watch it, partially because they can't repeat the title to their friends.

And just because FOX Sports did it in 1995 doesn't mean it should be duplicated or repeated.
Finally, using "there are worse profanities out there" as a defense is like saying "Your mom got stabbed to death, but that's not so bad. TWO PEOPLE died in a car wreck last night." The existence of "worse instances" doesn't ameliorate the content or impact of any "lesser instances." BDSSP, GCB, whatever "lesser profane" title you can think of, they're all "profane instances."
Just sayin.' Please be advised.
Signed,
THE ACTUAL GRAMMAR POLICE

 

[KeithE4]

And just because FOX Sports did it in 1995 doesn't mean it should be duplicated or repeated.
Finally, using "there are worse profanities out there" as a defense is like saying "Your mom got stabbed to death, but that's not so bad. TWO PEOPLE died in a car wreck last night." The existence of "worse instances" doesn't ameliorate the content or impact of any "lesser instances." BDSSP, GCB, whatever "lesser profane" title you can think of, they're all "profane instances."
Just sayin.' Please be advised.
Signed,
THE ACTUAL GRAMMAR POLICE

The word "damn" is not considered profane. It has been OK to use it on-air for over 40 years.

If you or anyone else prefers to not use that word, that's perfectly fine. Nobody can force you to use it. If you or anyone else refuses to watch a show with that word in it, that's fine too. Nobody can force you to watch it.

Few people today - especially the television audience in the big markets and younger demographics that advertisers target - find it offensive. You or anyone else has no right whatsoever to criticize anyone else for using that word, other than asking someone not to use it in your presence if you personally object to it. If you and I were having a private conversation and I used it, and you asked me not to, I would respect your wishes. But you can't expect a TV producer to do so. It's your responsibility to change the channel.

Bottom line: Don't like it? Watch something else.

 

[ShawnHill1]

So, in the interest of fairness for Mario...

I've noticed that these boards draw a significant number of people who have disabilities, especially those who are homebound (understandably so). Mario may have some sort of autism or social disorder that precludes him from seeing some of this as a "gray area" the way the rest of us do.

Benefit of the doubt - give him a break, guys. If it annoys you that much just ignore him.

Fair enough...it certainly wasn't my intent to pick on him, and if he does feel that way, I do sincerly apologize.

 

[Mario500]

So, in the interest of fairness for Mario...

I've noticed that these boards draw a significant number of people who have disabilities, especially those who are homebound (understandably so).  Mario may have some sort of autism or social disorder that precludes him from seeing some of this as a "gray area" the way the rest of us do.

Benefit of the doubt - give him a break, guys.  If it annoys you that much just ignore him.

Fair enough...it certainly wasn't my intent to pick on him, and if he does feel that way, I do sincer[e]ly apologize.

I have never been diagnosed for any disease or disorder. I believe I have none.

 

[quadraphonic]

And just because FOX Sports did it in 1995 doesn't mean it should be duplicated or repeated.
Finally, using "there are worse profanities out there" as a defense is like saying "Your mom got stabbed to death, but that's not so bad. TWO PEOPLE died in a car wreck last night." The existence of "worse instances" doesn't ameliorate the content or impact of any "lesser instances." BDSSP, GCB, whatever "lesser profane" title you can think of, they're all "profane instances."
Just sayin.' Please be advised.
Signed,
THE ACTUAL GRAMMAR POLICE

The word "damn" is not considered profane. It has been OK to use it on-air for over 40 years.

If you or anyone else prefers to not use that word, that's perfectly fine. Nobody can force you to use it. If you or anyone else refuses to watch a show with that word in it, that's fine too. Nobody can force you to watch it.

Few people today - especially the television audience in the big markets and younger demographics that advertisers target - find it offensive. You or anyone else has no right whatsoever to criticize anyone else for using that word, other than asking someone not to use it in your presence if you personally object to it. If you and I were having a private conversation and I used it, and you asked me not to, I would respect your wishes. But you can't expect a TV producer to do so. It's your responsibility to change the channel.

Bottom line: Don't like it? Watch something else.

Changing the channel is a great suggestion. But....How do I change the channel now, when we are discussing the thread title, before the show is airing?
Yeah, in the meanwhile, there are other things we can do (like discussing it), since "turn the channel" is kind of impossible at this juncture.

There are different interpretations of "profane." The above is your interpretations. We all have our own. Not all are based on FCC precedence. We all have the right to form our own interpretations.

We also all have the right to criticize whomever or whatever we wish (as far as the mods allow). It's a forum. Besides, criticizing is exactly what you're doing to my post. Why do I "not have the right to criticize anyone else for using that word?" Are TV producers above reproach or criticism? Hmmmmmm don't think so. Sounds kinda 'unfair' there.

How much would you really "respect" my wishes if I asked you to not say a word, with the underlying thought that I do not even have a right to criticize anyone for using the word?

I know, it's a cool word. All the teenagers are using it. Ballplayers. Grannies. TV producers. The FCC even allows it!
But still, it's about the same as all the other word choices in titles or casual conversation or whatever communications. All we can do is discuss our opinions of the word. I wouldn't even try to shut you down if you used it in casual conversation. But I would still expect to have "the right" to discuss it, in a forum.

Do you really think it's worth the risk, from a business perspective?

 

[Brother]

To me, the important thing out of all this is that "Best Daym Take-Out" catches the eyes and ears and intrigues the potential viewer. I had honestly never heard of Daymon Patterson before this thread, but the title intrigued me enough that I clicked on the link Mario provided in his original post. I rather doubt Mario's suggestion of "Takeout with Daymon" would have been anywhere near as catchy and people wouldn't have been as interested.

Many words in "polite" usage sound remarkably similar to their cursing counterparts - gosh, darn, shoot, fudge, heck - and they raise nary an eyebrow. Using "Daym" in this instance will likely be even less of an issue. After all, it's the man's name, not a made-up euphemism.

Anyway, there are bigger fish to fry in this area, Mario - you should try going after Richard Simmons for wearing a "Go to Health" t-shirt in several of his infomercials.

 

[KeithE4]

Anyway, there are bigger fish to fry in this area, Mario - you should try going after Richard Simmons for wearing a "Go to Health" t-shirt in several of his infomercials.

I hope he never has to deal with a customer service manager named Helen Waite. As in "If you have any complaints about our products, go to Helen Waite." ;D

 

[ixnay]

Anyway, there are bigger fish to fry in this area, Mario - you should try going after Richard Simmons for wearing a "Go to Health" t-shirt in several of his infomercials.

I hope he never has to deal with a customer service manager named Helen Waite. As in "If you have any complaints about our products, go to Helen Waite." ;D

I actually saw one of those "Helen Waite" signs in a greasy spoon in an indoor, open-every Fri/Sat/Sun farmer's market in Hares Corner, Delaware (across from New Castle Airport) some years ago. I sometimes ate there (not because of the sign but because they had great burgers and fries).

Back on topic: I had no problem with the title of TBDSSP, and I expect no trouble with the title of Daym. I think it's a nice pun.

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