CONSERVATIVE programmers are a disgrace

[B.B. Lean]

What you people fail to get is that many 'conservative' talkers DO spend a great amount of time talking about things other than politics. YOU don't listen enough, or at least critically enough, to hear it.

I don't listen to Rush much anymore (work schedule won't allow it) but I can recall many times he spent talking about golf, about football, about pop culture... etc etc.

Savage? Have you heard his show lately? He did an hour the other day on how he wants to buy a boat. Nothing political whatsoever.

Beck? Spends a ton of time doing pop culture topics.

I know I'm wasting my time here - none of you will change your minds or even concede a point - but it's obvious to me you're completely ill-informed and don't REALLY listen to the hosts you constantly complain about. Just go back to daydreaming about some fantasy host who will do the show YOU want to hear.

 

[SeanMGilbow]

My paycheck can beat yours...

Such an elaborate example of progressive thinking Mr. Gilbow.

It's a disgrace.

Money talks. I have it to spend on advertising. You don't.

 

[BiggusPrimus]

Money talks. I have it to spend on advertising. You don't.

Sadly, the folks that actually make programming decisions of import don't pay nearly enough attention to the MLM soap moguls of America. How they can blithely walk away from all that money on the table is beyond me.

Have you considered sending them some of your detergent sampler packs? Maybe then they'll start listening to reason.

Your friend forever,
Biggus

 

[SeanMGilbow]

Money talks. I have it to spend on advertising. You don't.

Sadly, the folks that actually make programming decisions of import don't pay nearly enough attention to the MLM soap moguls of America. How they can blithely walk away from all that money on the table is beyond me.

Have you considered sending them some of your detergent sampler packs? Maybe then they'll start listening to reason.

Your friend forever,
Biggus

Biggus sweetie:

I just sponsored an appearance by Stephanie Miller which filled a meeting room with a capacity for 1500 people.

I used to attend Quixtar meetings in that room five years ago. Never were there as many people as Stephanie drew to the Makoy Center.

As for the soap mogul stuff...that would be Rich DeVos. I have a state job which pays roughly $43,000 annually with a revenue-generating agency. It's a matter of public record. And you would be hard pressed to find a radio person in the Columbus market who makes that much. They're there, but the numbers continue to shrink as companies like Clear Channel trim budgets and rely on satellite dishes with conservative talking heads.

1500 people--not bad for a station whose sound quality has been deemed inferior by pros in the market who post on the Columbus board.

The general manager has a track record. He started Columbus' first alternative music station (locally owned). And he has garnered advertiser and community support way ahead of where Clear Channel's progressive talk station was after just three months. It has actually added staff, and local news and high schools sports are a major part of the schedule.

Many advertisers may blow cash on radio spots to gain customers and (hopefully) profits. The advertisers behind WVKO see our dollars as an investment in our community. And most will not advertise on other radio stations.

You can be as facetious as you want, but those who cut the checks to radio stations have control over those who receive checks from radio stations. And it will take many of the posters here being the recipient of a pink slip before they actually get it.

 

[cm454]

Money talks. I have it to spend on advertising. You don't.

Sadly, the folks that actually make programming decisions of import don't pay nearly enough attention to the MLM soap moguls of America. How they can blithely walk away from all that money on the table is beyond me.

Have you considered sending them some of your detergent sampler packs? Maybe then they'll start listening to reason.

Your friend forever,
Biggus

Biggus sweetie:

I just sponsored an appearance by Stephanie Miller which filled a meeting room with a capacity for 1500 people.

I used to attend Quixtar meetings in that room five years ago. Never were there as many people as Stephanie drew to the Makoy Center.

As for the soap mogul stuff...that would be Rich DeVos. I have a state job which pays roughly $43,000 annually with a revenue-generating agency. It's a matter of public record. And you would be hard pressed to find a radio person in the Columbus market who makes that much. They're there, but the numbers continue to shrink as companies like Clear Channel trim budgets and rely on satellite dishes with conservative talking heads.

1500 people--not bad for a station whose sound quality has been deemed inferior by pros in the market who post on the Columbus board.

The general manager has a track record. He started Columbus' first alternative music station (locally owned). And he has garnered advertiser and community support way ahead of where Clear Channel's progressive talk station was after just three months. It has actually added staff, and local news and high schools sports are a major part of the schedule.

Many advertisers may blow cash on radio spots to gain customers and (hopefully) profits. The advertisers behind WVKO see our dollars as an investment in our community. And most will not advertise on other radio stations.

You can be as facetious as you want, but those who cut the checks to radio stations have control over those who receive checks from radio stations. And it will take many of the posters here being the recipient of a pink slip before they actually get it.

Does anybody ever actually GET a "pink slip" anymore?

 

[BiggusPrimus]

I just sponsored an appearance by Stephanie Miller which filled a meeting room with a capacity for 1500 people.

I used to attend Quixtar meetings in that room five years ago. Never were there as many people as Stephanie drew to the Makoy Center.

Bring me up to speed here, because I'm appallingly ignorant about these things- Quixtar is Amway, right? If that's the case then both you and Ms. Miller deserve a hearty round of applause. Drawing a bigger crowd than an Amway meeting is no small achievement. Kudos!

I have a state job which pays roughly $43,000 annually with a revenue-generating agency. It's a matter of public record.

But I assume your advertising dollars are being used to promote the multi-level marketing soap and herbal supplement products available on your website, yes?

Many advertisers may blow cash on radio spots to gain customers and (hopefully) profits. The advertisers behind WVKO see our dollars as an investment in our community. And most will not advertise on other radio stations.

That kind of loyalty is something you just can't buy, isn't it? It certainly sounds like you've found the perfect audience for what you're selling.

You can be as facetious as you want, but those who cut the checks to radio stations have control over those who receive checks from radio stations.

Believe me, I wouldn't have it any other way, but you wound me with the suggestion I was being facetious. I'm quite serious. Just imagine the look on a programmers face when he opens up your package and finds a delightful sample-size selection of cleaning products, all labeled "CLEAN UP IN THE RATINGS WITH PROGRESSIVE TALK!" That's just the kind of innovative, outside-the-box marketing that can help open their eyes to the possibilities of progressive programming.

Your friend forever,
Biggus

P.S.- You could even customize the various cleaning products with different marketing slogans. "Smell that? It's not just the fresh scent of pure citrus oil, but the sweet smell of ratings success!"

P.P.S.- "Lemony Limbaugh Remover! Filled with the cleansing power of progressive talk!"

P.P.P.S.- "Bloviating Blowhard Toilet Bowl Cleaner! Flush those right-wing talkers down the drain and leave your toilet bowl, and your ratings, sparkling fresh!"

 

[jaymarvin]

Just dropped by to see what was going on. There are plenty of hosts out there who do not do politics all the time. I'm one then there's Neil Rogers, Jake Hartford (late of WLS) there's KSLX in LA as well as many others. The trick is you do the "A" story of the day, and try to be as local as you can. I've said this here a million times it's not about politics it's about doing good radio. Doing non political topics doesn't mean cooking shows, and book authors. It means doing topics from a right or wrong point of view.

 

[SeanMGilbow]

I just sponsored an appearance by Stephanie Miller which filled a meeting room with a capacity for 1500 people.

I used to attend Quixtar meetings in that room five years ago. Never were there as many people as Stephanie drew to the Makoy Center.

Bring me up to speed here, because I'm appallingly ignorant about these things- Quixtar is Amway, right? If that's the case then both you and Ms. Miller deserve a hearty round of applause. Drawing a bigger crowd than an Amway meeting is no small achievement. Kudos!

I have a state job which pays roughly $43,000 annually with a revenue-generating agency. It's a matter of public record.

But I assume your advertising dollars are being used to promote the multi-level marketing soap and herbal supplement products available on your website, yes?

Many advertisers may blow cash on radio spots to gain customers and (hopefully) profits. The advertisers behind WVKO see our dollars as an investment in our community. And most will not advertise on other radio stations.

That kind of loyalty is something you just can't buy, isn't it? It certainly sounds like you've found the perfect audience for what you're selling.

You can be as facetious as you want, but those who cut the checks to radio stations have control over those who receive checks from radio stations.

Believe me, I wouldn't have it any other way, but you wound me with the suggestion I was being facetious. I'm quite serious. Just imagine the look on a programmers face when he opens up your package and finds a delightful sample-size selection of cleaning products, all labeled "CLEAN UP IN THE RATINGS WITH PROGRESSIVE TALK!" That's just the kind of innovative, outside-the-box marketing that can help open their eyes to the possibilities of progressive programming.

Your friend forever,
Biggus

P.S.- You could even customize the various cleaning products with different marketing slogans. "Smell that? It's not just the fresh scent of pure citrus oil, but the sweet smell of ratings success!"

P.P.S.- "Lemony Limbaugh Remover! Filled with the cleansing power of progressive talk!"

P.P.P.S.- "Bloviating Blowhard Toilet Bowl Cleaner! Flush those right-wing talkers down the drain and leave your toilet bowl, and your ratings, sparkling fresh!"

Biggus sweetie, methinks you have raided Mama's box wine inventory.

Welcome back, Jay.

 

[Don62]

Just dropped by to see what was going on. There are plenty of hosts out there who do not do politics all the time. I'm one then there's Neil Rogers, Jake Hartford (late of WLS) there's KSLX in LA as well as many others. The trick is you do the "A" story of the day, and try to be as local as you can. I've said this here a million times it's not about politics it's about doing good radio. Doing non political topics doesn't mean cooking shows, and book authors. It means doing topics from a right or wrong point of view.

I find such programming far more compelling, interactive and down right more interesting to listen to than some blowhard schilling for some political party (either "liberal" or conservative).

All politics, all the time, gets boring quickly, as anyone with an ear will learn by listening to that fair-haired boy who comes on at 3:00 p.m. EST from NYC.

 

[Ultimajock]

Just dropped by to see what was going on. There are plenty of hosts out there who do not do politics all the time. I'm one then there's Neil Rogers, Jake Hartford (late of WLS) there's KSLX in LA as well as many others.

...KSLX is the classic rocker here in Phoenix; it's KLSX that's in Los Angeles. And it's perhaps telling that you didn't mention WGN, who regularly cleaned everyone's clock (including WLS and WLS-FM) when you were in Chicago. And, of course, there's Howard Stern, who got millions to pay good money to listen on a new radio technology...

 

[willcail]

I find it funny that the followers of conservite take is still defending a format that is about to implode itself. Citidel and Clear Cannel are cutting positions, loosing money, relying on low talent talkers that advertisers doesn't want to deal with.

Savage show lost 87% of its advertisers. While Ed Schultz and other Jones Progressive Talkers are incressing their station affilates and advertisers. Most radio markets are saturated with one talk radio format. They are loosing revenue and that is why they are cutting local talkers and favoring c list talkers. Just look at Columbus Ohio where I'm from. WTDA, WRFD, and WYTS all low rated low revenue generated stations. (I know WLW reaches C-Bus but it is a Cincy station) Now when I monitor those stations WYTS and WRFD hardly have any any local advertisers. WTDA does a better job. WYTS now relies on paid programming during the weekings to generate revenue.

WVKO 1580AM dispite with its technical issues (they are working on them) local advertisers are buying air time. I'm hearing more local ads on WVKO AM then on the former WTPG AM. There are five local shows. Whats What airs 5-6PM weekdays, Black Politics 11AM Saturdays, Blue State Diner 12PM Saturdays, and two gospel shows on Sunday Mornings. There is more local talk on WVKO AM than WYTS, WRFD and WTDA put together. Ohio's new home for Progressive Talk is doing a better job than CC did with the format.

I can give WTDA for not having all conservitive talk all the time. Rush is loosing listeners.

 

[radiotower40]

I find it funny that the followers of conservite take is still defending a format that is about to implode itself. Citidel and Clear Cannel are cutting positions, loosing money, relying on low talent talkers that advertisers doesn't want to deal with.

Savage show lost 87% of its advertisers. While Ed Schultz and other Jones Progressive Talkers are incressing their station affilates and advertisers. Most radio markets are saturated with one talk radio format. They are loosing revenue and that is why they are cutting local talkers and favoring c list talkers. Just look at Columbus Ohio where I'm from. WTDA, WRFD, and WYTS all low rated low revenue generated stations. (I know WLW reaches C-Bus but it is a Cincy station) Now when I monitor those stations WYTS and WRFD hardly have any any local advertisers. WTDA does a better job. WYTS now relies on paid programming during the weekings to generate revenue.

WVKO 1580AM dispite with its technical issues (they are working on them) local advertisers are buying air time. I'm hearing more local ads on WVKO AM then on the former WTPG AM. There are five local shows. Whats What airs 5-6PM weekdays, Black Politics 11AM Saturdays, Blue State Diner 12PM Saturdays, and two gospel shows on Sunday Mornings. There is more local talk on WVKO AM than WYTS, WRFD and WTDA put together. Ohio's new home for Progressive Talk is doing a better job than CC did with the format.

I can give WTDA for not having all conservitive talk all the time. Rush is loosing listeners.

Where did you get the 87% figure for Savage? Could you please back that up with some facts such as were you derived that
figure. In case anyone does not know by now Savage is being attacked by a group called The Council On American Islamic Relations (CAIR)
He has filed a lawsuit against them for what they are doing to him now. I know he has lost some hi-profile advertisers due to their boycott
of his show. This is a group that has some less than wholesome characters now and in the past in it's organization. If you don't believe that
do some research and see some of the people that are associated with that group or have ties to that group. I'm afraid you will find some
things out about them and what their real agenda is. To say that cost him 87% of his advertisers, I believe is absurd, however if you can show
some unbiased proof of this I'm willing to look at it. As for Rush if he is losing so many listeners how come Senator Clinton just won Texas and
Ohio? Is there any chance that Rush advised his vast audience to switch over and vote for her to keep the democrats fighting amongst each
other a little bit longer? I can't speak to WVKO's advertising and listeners, but if Sean is doing well and helping to provide a true community
radio station that is attracting lot's of local ad revenue I say good job, you are truly someone who understands the value that local radio which
offers something to a community can be.