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Cords, Cables, and Funny-Looking Gadgets..."Newbie" Question II: The Return

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At the station I work at there are a few boxes of cords, cables and other...stuff. I'm not a techie, really, and so have little idea what any of it is or even how to find out what any of it *is*.

So my question is two-fold: I need to "organize" this stuff so...
1 - Anyone willing walk me through what's what if I posted pictures of the stuff (here or via email...I don't know what the site's policies are on images)? I'd love to learn what all of this is! I find this business fascinating :) I could also do it over the phone, if that's easier (given my utter lack of background in this, however, I don't think this will be the case).

2 - If one assumes that I somehow figure out what these are, what is the best way to organize them so that an engineer could glance at wherever I end up putting them and be able to find what s/he is looking for with the least amount of resistance? What do engineers like to see when they encounter a pile of extra...randomness...?


This n00b thanks you in advance for any and all guidance!
 
Re: Cords, Cables, and Funny-Looking Gadgets..."Newbie" Question II: The Return

The short answer is that what you have probably isn't worth the cost of shipping across the street. About 7 years ago I ended up with three large storage units filled to the rafters with equipment taken out of service. Most of it was still fully functional including multitrack PR&E consoles, complete STL systems, cart machines, cassette decks and much other perfectly salvagable gear. I couldn't give it away, so except for a few of the STL pieces and a console or two that were picked up by an engineering friend of mine, it all went into a construction sized dumpster. Broke my heart. A lot of that stuff had been installed by me when it was state of the art.
 
Re: Cords, Cables, and Funny-Looking Gadgets..."Newbie" Question II: The Return

Ha ha - I suspect that you are correct, but there is probably a tidbit worth knowing in this case: The station I'm at is newish...but using the same equipment that was here 10 years ago. Our GM also goes looking for cables and cords of various sorts (tosses around words I don't recognize) around this station fairly frequently and we will be setting up a second station in here...probably not using new equipment, if I know his style at all (we're slowly moving away from our production computers using Win98, for example). Funds are tight and he's the resourceful sort.

So basically, if it's something that can be used on 10-year-old-or-older equipment, it's something he's interested in keeping for now. No exaggeration, we have 4 pieces of "new" equipment in here. That's the entire (albeit small) building and those are only because the items we started with finally gave out. ::)

So...my questions remain the same, though with the addition of wondering exactly what is useful to even this station (and the one to-be). I have a limited amount of space to work with for storage (technically none...the tops of shelves, really) so the more I can do to weed out the potentially-useful from the was-only-useful-in-the-days-of-yore, the better. :)
 
Re: Cords, Cables, and Funny-Looking Gadgets..."Newbie" Question II: The Return

It that case, for simplicity sake you may just want to get a few plastic bins and put like connectors with each other. ID XLR, 1/4, RCA, "other". Are most of these home built cables or store bought?
 
Re: Cords, Cables, and Funny-Looking Gadgets..."Newbie" Question II: The Return

They look like mostly store bought...Rather, they all look store bought, but some appear to have been otherwise manipulated in ways I suspect would void their warranty...for lack of a better way to put it :)

Connectors...there's one of those silly words that under any other circumstance would make sense to me (rolls eyes at self) ...You're talking about the end parts of them, right?
 
Re: Cords, Cables, and Funny-Looking Gadgets..."Newbie" Question II: The Return

That's sad to hear that some functional, good old equipment was just thrown in a dumpster. I'm in the market for new/like-new/or excellent quality 3-head cassette decks. At the station I'm at, a couple of show hosts use the cassette deck to give themselves an echo effect. Still others record their shows for pesonal aircheck purposes. It's cheap and easy. We keep having the machines repaired. We don't use cart machines on-air, but I had one repaired so we can archive some old stuff onto CD. We also have, and occasionally use turntables. I'm wondering about getting another one in case one breaks down for good. We have a reel-to-reel in production that has come in handy a few times, sitting right next to the new digital equipment.
 
Re: Cords, Cables, and Funny-Looking Gadgets..."Newbie" Question II: The Return

John, send me an email address. I have a large stack of MK 112-Bs, let's negotiate.
 
Re: Cords, Cables, and Funny-Looking Gadgets..."Newbie" Question II: The Return

A couple of simplifications:

A connector is the thing on the end of a cable that goes into something. They usually have two different type of ends--male with exposed pins (sometimes with a cover around them), and female, with sockets something plugs into. Common example: an extension cord--plug with exposed pins goes into the AC wall outlet, socket on end takes the plug from that gadget that is 3 feet too far from the outlet.

A plug is usually the male connector, the jack is normally the female connector mounted in a piece of equipment or on a panel or wall. I'll assume you've already figured out why they are called that.

1. The power cords that come with computers (plug end into wall--other squarish end that goes into back of the computer) --are virtually universal. You can use them for computer monitors, small printers, many types of audio amplifiers, small consoles, and just about anything else they will fit into. Usually what happens is a monitor or computer dies, the old one is pulled out and junked, but the power cord is so tangled up under a desk that the new device is plugged into the old power cord. There is usually a brand new one in the box. So keep them corralled some place--that way if a cord gets lost or damaged you have a new spare.

Caveat: Some equipment--such as a big copier or printer--will use a power cord like this, but it is heavier (thicker) than usual. That's because it takes a lot of power (current). Don't switch the heavy cord for a thinner one.

2. Audio cables. Microphone cables use three pin connectors--typically the female end plugs into the mike, the male end into a mike jack on a mixer. You can daisy chain mike cables together if you need longer ones.
A number of other devices will have jacks that will take mike cables but are designed for louder signals. Some monitor amplifiers have what look like mike jacks for inputs, these require a higher-level --louder--signal to work. Usually these gadgets are already wired in place so you don't have to mess with them.

There are three other common types of cables: "RCA" or pin plugs and jacks. Very common on things like CD players, outputs from FM tuners, etc. Typically you use a male to male cable with RCA plugs from a tuner into an amplifier--these are the paired cables with white and red plugs so you can tell left and right (Red=Right).

1/4 inch plugs and jacks. Your headphone jack on the console is usually a 1/4 inch jack. These cables can be either mono or stereo--look at the plug: Mono plugs have a tip--plastic insulator ring-then barrel or ring of the plug. A stereo plug has a second plastic ring.

1/8 inch plugs and jacks. Small devices like cassette players, portable radios,digital recorders have these smaller jacks, and the cables and headphones used with them have corresponding plugs. Same as the 1/4 inch plugs--mono plugs have one plastic insulating ring, stereo, two. Common now to ship headphones with an 1/8th inch plug and an adapter that plugs into the larger 1/4 inch jack. The adapters tend to get lost or get stuck in the console headphone jack--much to the annoyance of the talent with the wrong type of plug on his headphones.

3. Computer stuff: Monitors use multi-pin cables with what are called "D" connectors on each end. Again, these have male--exposed pins, and female connectors. Same story with monitor cables as with computer power cords--when the old monitor is replaced usually the old cable is just plugged into the new monitor. Leaving a brand new, orphan monitor cable. This is usually a miniature 15 pin D--other common cables use 9 pin D connectors or 25 pin D connectors. Older printers have a 25 pin D connector on the computer end.

Cables with D connectors are often used with specialized broadcast equipment, usually either 9, 15 or 25 pin connectors.

The other types of cables used with your computer are the familiar USB cable--which have a flat end on one end and normally a squarish end for the equipment. There are some specialized USB cables that are used with things like cameras (really tiny plug on one end) or cell phones.

RJ-45: This is the network cable that plugs into the back of the computer or printer. It looks like a a cable used for a telephone, but the plug is fatter.

Weird cables: Such as the one that runs between the console and power supply. Or runs the Marti unit off battery power. They are specially made--if you have to keep track of what it does, buy one of those P-touch labels and put a label on it saying what it is: (e.g.--battery power cable Marti).

Hope this helps.
 
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