chas108 said:SirRoxalot said:I could point out that this is the Buffalo/Niagara Falls/Rochester board, which NYers outside of NYC would identify as WESTERN New York. "Upstate" is 250 miles east of here.
Respectfully SirRox, isn't this a little bit picky? LOL
Having lived in Niagara Falls (although on the Canadian side), Westchester and Onondaga/Cortland counties, and with my wife's family scattered all over CNY, WNY and up and down the Hudson...I've always taken "Upstate" is a relative term.
Back in the days when the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle was run by people who were actually from Rochester, and back in the days when a Sunday newspaper in a city the size of Rochester still had its very own local rotogravure magazine, the Sunday magazine insert in the D&C was called...yup...
"Upstate."
The term seems to have fallen out of some favor around here in recent years (replaced by the fingernails-on-blackboard "ROC-whatever" construction), but I don't think you'd find many Rochesterians of a certain vintage who'd deny that we live "upstate," and even fewer who'd say that Albany (or, worse yet, the Hudson Valley) is "upstate."
I also find it interesting that only two states (at least in my experience) seem to have areas routinely known as "upstate" or "the upstate." The other is South Carolina, and the line seems to be much more clearly drawn there: if you're west of Columbia, you're in "the upstate."