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Could an Urban AC station work here in SD?

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I'm a big fan of Suite 62 on XM an Urban AC format. (Jill Scott, Erykah Badu, Brian McKnight, Maxwell)
There's nothing else like it here in San Diego.
Could that kind of format work here?
It seems like there is a market for those urban listeners who are
too grown up for R&B Hip-hop (Jay Z & Beyonce) and too tired of Old School R&B I would think.
 
Well, San Diego does have 5-6% black population.

The problem with most of these type of stations is they need at least a 10% base to work with and sell to advertisers.

In addition, you need other type of listeners ie latino to listen to such a station. But as has been seen in cases where a UAC exists, the Latin population doesn't embrace it. Why? Well, the music just isn't familar to them, they may hear too much neo soul or too many deep cuts and not enough of the crossover cuts they know from their Low Rider days, that is why XHRM works so well. In addition the younger kids are more likely to be hip hop fans, another reason why you see XHTZ, XHMORE, and KHTS duke it out.

One such example of UAC's issues exists 90 miles up the road in LA/OC. Currently, 4 stations are targeting African Americans, Urban KDAY, Urban ACs KJLH, KHHT, and KRBV. In addition, Smooth Jazz KTWV exists as well as Rhythmic Oldies KMVN. With the exception of KTWV and KHHT, the rest are all under a share or in KRBV's case teetering there. The base has more blacks in LA, but is significantly overshadowed by Latino people, whom account for nearly half of LA's population. Rumors in fact are pointing to KRBV and KMVN being flip or sold and serious questions arise about KDAY's future despite the presence of Steve Harvey, whom once had a successful morning show on the old KKBT(now KRBV). If it fails in LA, you can bet people down here aren't likely to embrace such a format.

Also, African Americans have been abandoning places like LA and San Diego and are moving to the midwest or south, reasons may vary such as work related, being with family, or in some cases, their inability to work with the Latin population. Logic says if you're losing a base, then it may not be wise to sign on a station for a group that might not even be around in significant numbers in the next 15 years.

I know, it does suck, I'm a fan of UAC too, but that's just the reality of it. It just doesn't seem to get much ratings on the west coast/mountain states.
 
What you say makes sense, but how do you account for the fact that an Urban AC station is Number 1 in Miami?
Another place with a high percentage of Latinos.
 
Young Grasshopper said:
What you say makes sense, but how do you account for the fact that an Urban AC station is Number 1 in Miami?
Another place with a high percentage of Latinos.

Adding to Joshua's good perspective...

Miami is 20% Black, and there are several Black stations in the top 10 there. Further, the Caribbean has a large percentage of Blacks, and Black infuluences are strong in Latin music there, ranging from salsa and merengue to reggaetón. Many Hispanics listen to the "lighter" black stations in markets like NY and Miami.

Mexican origin Hispanics have no cultural identification with Blacks or Black music. There is, at most, a fraction of a percentage point of Blacks in Mexico, where the heritage is indigenous.

The types of English language music listened to by Hispanics in the Southwest is quite different than on the East Coast; even in the second generation the differences are notable.
 
Joshua Messex said:
One such example of UAC's issues exists 90 miles up the road in LA/OC. Currently, 4 stations are targeting African Americans, Urban KDAY, Urban ACs KJLH, KHHT, and KRBV. In addition, Smooth Jazz KTWV exists as well as Rhythmic Oldies KMVN. With the exception of KTWV and KHHT, the rest are all under a share or in KRBV's case teetering there. The base has more blacks in LA, but is significantly overshadowed by Latino people, whom account for nearly half of LA's population. Rumors in fact are pointing to KRBV and KMVN being flip or sold and serious questions arise about KDAY's future despite the presence of Steve Harvey, whom once had a successful morning show on the old KKBT(now KRBV). If it fails in LA, you can bet people down here aren't likely to embrace such a format.

Doesn't KHHT tend to be more latino-friendly than KJLH, KDAY and KRBV, thus performs better in the ratings?
 
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