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Could Classic TV be used as E/I content?

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hifidistortion

I would assume that some would fall in to that catagory, and seeing as Television stations are reluctant to put cartoons/children's programming, could some of our favorite shows show up as E/I, as some have "moral of the story" type themes. We win, because classic TV returns in some form and the stations win, because they have fulfilled the E/I obligations and could sell classic TV better than the limited access for selling on children's programming.

Examples of E/I classic TV:
Leave it to Beaver
Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids
The Andy Griffith Show
Punky Brewster.....

feel free to add.... but you get my point...
 
I think Beaver could definitely qualify as virtually every episode is a morality play.

Andy Griffith, no.

Can't comment on the others as I never watched them.
 
Could some of our favorite shows show up as E/I? Yes its possible that many of them could but will they? That I have my doubts. As much as I would like to see many old shows return to TV, by using them as E/I, chances are the local stations won't win. Take for example the classic 70's TV show "Emergency". That show could easily quailfy as E/I as there have been stories over the years about ow many kids of them 70s became paramedics because they wanted to follow in the foot steps of Gage & DeSoto not to mention they have been stories over the years about how some kids were saving the lives of other kids and even adults by simply remembering the things they had seen on Emergency. Now the problem...what about the many of adults who for one reason or another HATED the show, wouldn't allow it to be seen in their home at all whether it was simple a question of personal taste or those who as I say "nit-pick" like those who didn't think Emergency showed the "real side" of paramedics. Plus there will be those who will claim that "..hey if Emergency can be considered educational TV..then why not Ice Road Truckers since they show whats it like to be a trucker?" and of course those who consider Emergency strictly "entertainment" and flat out refuse to consider the show "educational".To sum it it up..can we say open a can or worms?

Don't get me wrong..a lot of classic shows really could be considered "educational", like having that moral of the story but lets face it..a lot of people will complain about it and I think its a safe bet to say that many local stations have taken this as consideration and know they can't get away with it.
 
It's an interesting proposition. With the relaxed rules at the FCC, stations may be able to get away with it. "Father Knows Best" is another example of a morality tale. Although, while some kids do watch Classic programming like Lucy, Beaver, etc, mostly there is an aversion to B&W prints. Interesting proposition but I don't think you'll see it done wholesale.
 
"Fat Albert ant The Cosby Kids" has already been re-packaged into shorter vignettes for classroom use. Here in Kentucky, block feeds of several episodes appear on the KET/ED digital subchannnel 4. Kentucky Educational Television is the largest statewide educational TV system in the country, feeding four digital programming streams to 16 full-power and three translator digital transmitters covering eight states.
 
quadraphonic said:
Andy Griffith was always a morality play too.
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The interaction between Andy and Ron (Opie) was but little else. Especially the comedic episodes with Don Knotts (gun horseplay etc.)
 
hifidistortion said:
I would assume that some would fall in to that catagory, and seeing as Television stations are reluctant to put cartoons/children's programming, could some of our favorite shows show up as E/I, as some have "moral of the story" type themes. We win, because classic TV returns in some form and the stations win, because they have fulfilled the E/I obligations and could sell classic TV better than the limited access for selling on children's programming.

Examples of E/I classic TV:
Leave it to Beaver
Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids
The Andy Griffith Show
Punky Brewster.....
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Punky Brewster? Really? I thought they only had that one episode with Punky's friend Cherie hiding in the refrigerator and getting a heart attack, that would qualify as the only educational episode they've had. (I mean, come on, does "Henry, I'm gettin' boobs" really count? ;D )
 
E/I classic TV...it COULD happen!

My two cents worth:(if anyone wants to still air them)
(Nick Jr?)
Andy's Gang (some episodes were filmed in color)
Kukla,Fran and Ollie
The Cisco Kid
Dennis The Menace
Howdy Doody
Captain Kangaroo
You Are There

(TV Land or Nick at Nite)
My Three Sons
The Partridge Family
Little House On The Prairie
The Waltons
Adam 12
 
ok how about bringing back:sunrise semester I believe CBS did that one...


And
SchoolHouse Rock all variations
PicturePages with the Cos
Time for Timer and Captain O.G. Readmore.....still relevant as kids definitely need nutrition tips and reading encouragement.

Those could run during commercial breaks.
 
kirkiefan said:
E/I classic TV...it COULD happen!


(TV Land or Nick at Nite)
My Three Sons
The Partridge Family
Little House On The Prairie
The Waltons
Adam 12
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Great shows but I am not sure if they could work as being E/I. "The Waltons" at first one may think could work ...a show about a Virginia family living during the Great Depression & World War Two but by using that reason only whats to stop some station from considering "One Day at a Time" as E/I becuase that show featured what life was like in Indianapolis in 1977.

On the other hand...I saw bring back those old ABC Afterschool Specials that ran back in the 70s..that can and will work.
 
mleach said:
Great shows but I am not sure if they could work as being E/I. "The Waltons" at first one may think could work ...a show about a Virginia family living during the Great Depression & World War Two but by using that reason only whats to stop some station from considering "One Day at a Time" as E/I becuase that show featured what life was like in Indianapolis in 1977.
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Or "Married With Children", to show life of an impoverished, working class family in Chicago?

When E/I was first introduced, some stations showed episodes of Flintstones, Jetsons and even Leave It to Beaver as E/I, only to be sunk by the FCC, saying that programming must save substantial educational and informational value.

mleach said:
On the other hand...I saw bring back those old ABC Afterschool Specials that ran back in the 70s..that can and will work.
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Only if they are seen as a weekly series -- specials are not eligible for E/I.

(Though of course, back in 2007, ABC tried to pass off a Winnie The Pooh prime-time Christmas special as E/I.)
 
...and they still do, right down to using that insipid logo with the mortarboard. Those should be banned. The PBS E/I wart as used on qubo should be the all-around standard.

But I, for one, don't need any E/I in prime time. Give the kids a break.
 
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