With rumors flying around Howard Stern's departure, does this set up a potential for several flips Laborday weekend? I am thinking of especially Pittsburgh and Cleveland?
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Could Jack pop out of the box Laborday Weekend?
- Thread starter radiogeek07
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More speculation (Cleveland/Pittsburgh)
> With rumors flying around Howard Stern's departure, does
> this set up a potential for several flips Laborday weekend?
> I am thinking of especially Pittsburgh and Cleveland?
What about the July 4th speculation? Oh, wait, nothing happened then.
The situation surrounding Howard Stern I think is a separate thing from what Infinity is going to do with the JACK-FM brand in markets where it owns FM stations. Consider WBUF/Buffalo, where the company launched JACK-FM on the station that aired (and still airs) the Howard Stern show.
Cleveland is a unique situation since the company not only has to figure out how it will handle the departure of Stern for Sirius, but also if it will keep Rover at modern rock WXTM or move him to WNCX, the classic rocker that presently airs Stern.
As for Pittsburgh, while it looks like a likely market, given the apparently inclination of Clear Channel not to put Variety Hits on in major markets and Rubber City Media's disinterest in the format, it appears that Infinity has time to watch and see how other JACK-FM stations in the region do first, a luxury it didn't necessarily have in other markets.<P ID="signature">______________
Lou Pickney
Tampa, FL
RadioHotTalk.com & VarietyHits.com</P>
> With rumors flying around Howard Stern's departure, does
> this set up a potential for several flips Laborday weekend?
> I am thinking of especially Pittsburgh and Cleveland?
What about the July 4th speculation? Oh, wait, nothing happened then.
The situation surrounding Howard Stern I think is a separate thing from what Infinity is going to do with the JACK-FM brand in markets where it owns FM stations. Consider WBUF/Buffalo, where the company launched JACK-FM on the station that aired (and still airs) the Howard Stern show.
Cleveland is a unique situation since the company not only has to figure out how it will handle the departure of Stern for Sirius, but also if it will keep Rover at modern rock WXTM or move him to WNCX, the classic rocker that presently airs Stern.
As for Pittsburgh, while it looks like a likely market, given the apparently inclination of Clear Channel not to put Variety Hits on in major markets and Rubber City Media's disinterest in the format, it appears that Infinity has time to watch and see how other JACK-FM stations in the region do first, a luxury it didn't necessarily have in other markets.<P ID="signature">______________
Lou Pickney
Tampa, FL
RadioHotTalk.com & VarietyHits.com</P>
Re: More speculation (Cleveland/Pittsburgh)
> > With rumors flying around Howard Stern's departure, does
> > this set up a potential for several flips Laborday
> weekend?
> > I am thinking of especially Pittsburgh and Cleveland?
>
> What about the July 4th speculation? Oh, wait, nothing
> happened then.
>
> The situation surrounding Howard Stern I think is a separate
> thing from what Infinity is going to do with the JACK-FM
> brand in markets where it owns FM stations. Consider
> WBUF/Buffalo, where the company launched JACK-FM on the
> station that aired (and still airs) the Howard Stern show.
>
> Cleveland is a unique situation since the company not only
> has to figure out how it will handle the departure of Stern
> for Sirius, but also if it will keep Rover at modern rock
> WXTM or move him to WNCX, the classic rocker that presently
> airs Stern.
>
> As for Pittsburgh, while it looks like a likely market,
> given the apparently inclination of Clear Channel not to put
> Variety Hits on in major markets and Rubber City Media's
> disinterest in the format, it appears that Infinity has time
> to watch and see how other JACK-FM stations in the region do
> first, a luxury it didn't necessarily have in other markets.
>
Interesting speculation Lou. Do you have any predictions for 923 K Rock in New York City? They air Stern. Even though we already have 101.1 Jack FM, any predictions?
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Kevin</P>
> > With rumors flying around Howard Stern's departure, does
> > this set up a potential for several flips Laborday
> weekend?
> > I am thinking of especially Pittsburgh and Cleveland?
>
> What about the July 4th speculation? Oh, wait, nothing
> happened then.
>
> The situation surrounding Howard Stern I think is a separate
> thing from what Infinity is going to do with the JACK-FM
> brand in markets where it owns FM stations. Consider
> WBUF/Buffalo, where the company launched JACK-FM on the
> station that aired (and still airs) the Howard Stern show.
>
> Cleveland is a unique situation since the company not only
> has to figure out how it will handle the departure of Stern
> for Sirius, but also if it will keep Rover at modern rock
> WXTM or move him to WNCX, the classic rocker that presently
> airs Stern.
>
> As for Pittsburgh, while it looks like a likely market,
> given the apparently inclination of Clear Channel not to put
> Variety Hits on in major markets and Rubber City Media's
> disinterest in the format, it appears that Infinity has time
> to watch and see how other JACK-FM stations in the region do
> first, a luxury it didn't necessarily have in other markets.
>
Interesting speculation Lou. Do you have any predictions for 923 K Rock in New York City? They air Stern. Even though we already have 101.1 Jack FM, any predictions?
<P ID="signature">______________
Kevin</P>
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OldiesCat
Guest
More speculation Big Apple
Well, how about this: Oldies returns to NYC on 92.3? Does Infinity have the guts to be heroes?
>
> Interesting speculation Lou. Do you have any predictions for
> 923 K Rock in New York City? They air Stern. Even though we
> already have 101.1 Jack FM, any predictions?
>
Well, how about this: Oldies returns to NYC on 92.3? Does Infinity have the guts to be heroes?
>
> Interesting speculation Lou. Do you have any predictions for
> 923 K Rock in New York City? They air Stern. Even though we
> already have 101.1 Jack FM, any predictions?
>
> With rumors flying around Howard Stern's departure, does
> this set up a potential for several flips Laborday weekend?
> I am thinking of especially Pittsburgh and Cleveland?
>
Here's an idea noone has really tried yet.
Keep the announcers but add the music. If it is an oldies station ,add all the jack hits but KEEP the oldies giving a WIDER variety of oldies.
> this set up a potential for several flips Laborday weekend?
> I am thinking of especially Pittsburgh and Cleveland?
>
Here's an idea noone has really tried yet.
Keep the announcers but add the music. If it is an oldies station ,add all the jack hits but KEEP the oldies giving a WIDER variety of oldies.
Re: More speculation
> Interesting speculation Lou. Do you have any predictions for
> 923 K Rock in New York City? They air Stern. Even though we
> already have 101.1 Jack FM, any predictions?
The latest rumor has David Lee Roth replacing Howard Stern. Seriously. The station shifted from modern rock to active rock earlier this year, so it will likely be given a chance to prove itself with the new format, post-Stern.
As for Oldies returning, I don't expect to see that happening. What's done is done there...<P ID="signature">______________
Lou Pickney
Tampa, FL
RadioHotTalk.com & VarietyHits.com</P>
> Interesting speculation Lou. Do you have any predictions for
> 923 K Rock in New York City? They air Stern. Even though we
> already have 101.1 Jack FM, any predictions?
The latest rumor has David Lee Roth replacing Howard Stern. Seriously. The station shifted from modern rock to active rock earlier this year, so it will likely be given a chance to prove itself with the new format, post-Stern.
As for Oldies returning, I don't expect to see that happening. What's done is done there...<P ID="signature">______________
Lou Pickney
Tampa, FL
RadioHotTalk.com & VarietyHits.com</P>
Re: More speculation Big Apple
> Well, how about this: Oldies returns to NYC on 92.3? Does
> Infinity have the guts to be heroes?
> >
> > Interesting speculation Lou. Do you have any predictions
> for
> > 923 K Rock in New York City? They air Stern. Even though
> we
> > already have 101.1 Jack FM, any predictions?
> >
>
That isn't happening. Would be nice, but not happening. I would be REALLY surprised if Infinity brought oldies back.<P ID="signature">______________
Kevin</P>
> Well, how about this: Oldies returns to NYC on 92.3? Does
> Infinity have the guts to be heroes?
> >
> > Interesting speculation Lou. Do you have any predictions
> for
> > 923 K Rock in New York City? They air Stern. Even though
> we
> > already have 101.1 Jack FM, any predictions?
> >
>
That isn't happening. Would be nice, but not happening. I would be REALLY surprised if Infinity brought oldies back.<P ID="signature">______________
Kevin</P>
> Here's an idea noone has really tried yet.
> Keep the announcers but add the music. If it is an oldies
> station ,add all the jack hits but KEEP the oldies giving a
> WIDER variety of oldies.
>
I find it hard to believe ANYONE is going to sit thru the Beachboys & Duran Duran or U2 on the same station. A also wonder if much of the "appeal" of Jack-type stations is the fact they are jockless.
> Keep the announcers but add the music. If it is an oldies
> station ,add all the jack hits but KEEP the oldies giving a
> WIDER variety of oldies.
>
I find it hard to believe ANYONE is going to sit thru the Beachboys & Duran Duran or U2 on the same station. A also wonder if much of the "appeal" of Jack-type stations is the fact they are jockless.
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OldiesCat
Guest
Jack appeal
No- the major appeal is the very wide variety of music. You'll see most eventually add personalities (otherwise, JACK is like the iPod on shuffle WITH
commercials!).
>
> I find it hard to believe ANYONE is going to sit thru the
> Beachboys & Duran Duran or U2 on the same station. A also
> wonder if much of the "appeal" of Jack-type stations is the
> fact they are jockless.
>
No- the major appeal is the very wide variety of music. You'll see most eventually add personalities (otherwise, JACK is like the iPod on shuffle WITH
commercials!).
>
> I find it hard to believe ANYONE is going to sit thru the
> Beachboys & Duran Duran or U2 on the same station. A also
> wonder if much of the "appeal" of Jack-type stations is the
> fact they are jockless.
>
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eggsdannythomas
Guest
Re: Jack appeal
> No- the major appeal is the very wide variety of music.
> You'll see most eventually add personalities (otherwise,
> JACK is like the iPod on shuffle WITH
> commercials!).
What wide variety? Someone on the NYC did research and their playlist is about 500 songs.
Unless variety means Phil Collins, Pat Benatar and Black Eyed Peas. Wow just like my Ipod (not).
> No- the major appeal is the very wide variety of music.
> You'll see most eventually add personalities (otherwise,
> JACK is like the iPod on shuffle WITH
> commercials!).
What wide variety? Someone on the NYC did research and their playlist is about 500 songs.
Unless variety means Phil Collins, Pat Benatar and Black Eyed Peas. Wow just like my Ipod (not).
Re: Jack appeal
You know, I don't know if Jack-FM 101.1 in NY is the typical Jack station. I kind of think that other Jack stations play more variety than NY does and the one in NY plays a slightly different mix of music.
> What wide variety? Someone on the NYC did research and
> their playlist is about 500 songs.
>
> Unless variety means Phil Collins, Pat Benatar and Black
> Eyed Peas. Wow just like my Ipod (not).
>
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You know, I don't know if Jack-FM 101.1 in NY is the typical Jack station. I kind of think that other Jack stations play more variety than NY does and the one in NY plays a slightly different mix of music.
> What wide variety? Someone on the NYC did research and
> their playlist is about 500 songs.
>
> Unless variety means Phil Collins, Pat Benatar and Black
> Eyed Peas. Wow just like my Ipod (not).
>
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[email protected]</P>
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DonRevert
Guest
Re: Jack appeal
> What wide variety? Someone on the NYC did research and
> their playlist is about 500 songs.
>
> Unless variety means Phil Collins, Pat Benatar and Black
> Eyed Peas. Wow just like my Ipod (not).
Funny that you said that as we just got done doing the same research last week.
Looking on Mediabase, 101.1 JACK/NY has presently 1122 unique titles, LA 1044, Chicago 1142 and Dallas 1224. Not sure where "someone" got the number 500 from.
> What wide variety? Someone on the NYC did research and
> their playlist is about 500 songs.
>
> Unless variety means Phil Collins, Pat Benatar and Black
> Eyed Peas. Wow just like my Ipod (not).
Funny that you said that as we just got done doing the same research last week.
Looking on Mediabase, 101.1 JACK/NY has presently 1122 unique titles, LA 1044, Chicago 1142 and Dallas 1224. Not sure where "someone" got the number 500 from.
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OldiesCat
Guest
Jack appeal
Totally correct- most are in the 1,200 title range presently.
The 500 titles thing comes from Jack nay-sayers who are trying to dig up ANYTHING to discredit the format before it barely gets off the ground, including:
*they only play 500 titles-what kind variety is that?
*they have no jocks, so it's a consipracy from the radio suits to slash
budget and kill personalities
*their first trend wasn't top 5--see, they're already fading fast
*blah, blah, blah, etc.
Said this before but think it's true: most of the negativity toward JACK stations isn't so much with the new format but feeling of loss for the stations they've replaced (mostly Oldies stations).
So, while many of us do not agree with the wholesale dropping of Oldies stations, that fact is totally independant of JACK, how they do in the ratings, their title count, etc.
>
> Funny that you said that as we just got done doing the same
> research last week.
>
> Looking on Mediabase, 101.1 JACK/NY has presently 1122
> unique titles, LA 1044, Chicago 1142 and Dallas 1224. Not
> sure where "someone" got the number 500 from.
>
Totally correct- most are in the 1,200 title range presently.
The 500 titles thing comes from Jack nay-sayers who are trying to dig up ANYTHING to discredit the format before it barely gets off the ground, including:
*they only play 500 titles-what kind variety is that?
*they have no jocks, so it's a consipracy from the radio suits to slash
budget and kill personalities
*their first trend wasn't top 5--see, they're already fading fast
*blah, blah, blah, etc.
Said this before but think it's true: most of the negativity toward JACK stations isn't so much with the new format but feeling of loss for the stations they've replaced (mostly Oldies stations).
So, while many of us do not agree with the wholesale dropping of Oldies stations, that fact is totally independant of JACK, how they do in the ratings, their title count, etc.
>
> Funny that you said that as we just got done doing the same
> research last week.
>
> Looking on Mediabase, 101.1 JACK/NY has presently 1122
> unique titles, LA 1044, Chicago 1142 and Dallas 1224. Not
> sure where "someone" got the number 500 from.
>
J
jack
Guest
Re: Jack appeal
Cat, as usual, you are the reason here.
The JACK replacing oldies station mantra is not even correct. Let us recap:
Denver = move in (no format)
Jackson = ARROW (classic rock)
Dallas = CHR/R
Kansas City = 80s format
Minneapolis = 80s format
Indianapolis = OLDIES
LA = ARROW (classic rock)
San Diego = AC
Seattle = alternative
Salt Lake City = alternative
Balitmore = OLDIES
Nashville = OLDIES
Buffalo = Hot Talk (still w/ Stern in AMD)
Chicago = OLDIES
New York = OLDIES
Las Vegas = Soft AC
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Five oldies stations gone (and in only one market did anyone "fill the hole" by putting a new oldies station on -- Nashville). Only three Infinity stations were oldies.
Cat, as usual, you are the reason here.
The JACK replacing oldies station mantra is not even correct. Let us recap:
Denver = move in (no format)
Jackson = ARROW (classic rock)
Dallas = CHR/R
Kansas City = 80s format
Minneapolis = 80s format
Indianapolis = OLDIES
LA = ARROW (classic rock)
San Diego = AC
Seattle = alternative
Salt Lake City = alternative
Balitmore = OLDIES
Nashville = OLDIES
Buffalo = Hot Talk (still w/ Stern in AMD)
Chicago = OLDIES
New York = OLDIES
Las Vegas = Soft AC
----
Five oldies stations gone (and in only one market did anyone "fill the hole" by putting a new oldies station on -- Nashville). Only three Infinity stations were oldies.
Re: Jack appeal
Add Austin to the list where Bob-FM used to be Oldies 103.5 KEYI. I even heard an Everly Brothers song on their last night as Oldies.
> Cat, as usual, you are the reason here.
>
> The JACK replacing oldies station mantra is not even
> correct. Let us recap:
>
> Denver = move in (no format)
> Jackson = ARROW (classic rock)
> Dallas = CHR/R
> Kansas City = 80s format
> Minneapolis = 80s format
> Indianapolis = OLDIES
> LA = ARROW (classic rock)
> San Diego = AC
> Seattle = alternative
> Salt Lake City = alternative
> Balitmore = OLDIES
> Nashville = OLDIES
> Buffalo = Hot Talk (still w/ Stern in AMD)
> Chicago = OLDIES
> New York = OLDIES
> Las Vegas = Soft AC
>
> ----
>
> Five oldies stations gone (and in only one market did anyone
> "fill the hole" by putting a new oldies station on --
> Nashville). Only three Infinity stations were oldies.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
[email protected]</P>
Add Austin to the list where Bob-FM used to be Oldies 103.5 KEYI. I even heard an Everly Brothers song on their last night as Oldies.
> Cat, as usual, you are the reason here.
>
> The JACK replacing oldies station mantra is not even
> correct. Let us recap:
>
> Denver = move in (no format)
> Jackson = ARROW (classic rock)
> Dallas = CHR/R
> Kansas City = 80s format
> Minneapolis = 80s format
> Indianapolis = OLDIES
> LA = ARROW (classic rock)
> San Diego = AC
> Seattle = alternative
> Salt Lake City = alternative
> Balitmore = OLDIES
> Nashville = OLDIES
> Buffalo = Hot Talk (still w/ Stern in AMD)
> Chicago = OLDIES
> New York = OLDIES
> Las Vegas = Soft AC
>
> ----
>
> Five oldies stations gone (and in only one market did anyone
> "fill the hole" by putting a new oldies station on --
> Nashville). Only three Infinity stations were oldies.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
[email protected]</P>
Re: Jack appeal
> Add Austin to the list where Bob-FM used to be Oldies 103.5
> KEYI. I even heard an Everly Brothers song on their last
> night as Oldies.
>
He was only counting stations that are called Jack FM.<P ID="signature">______________
"...and the countdown continues until the neanderthals that govern college football do something about their pathetic postseason."--Tim Brando, Sporting News Radio</P>
> Add Austin to the list where Bob-FM used to be Oldies 103.5
> KEYI. I even heard an Everly Brothers song on their last
> night as Oldies.
>
He was only counting stations that are called Jack FM.<P ID="signature">______________
"...and the countdown continues until the neanderthals that govern college football do something about their pathetic postseason."--Tim Brando, Sporting News Radio</P>
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eGillCVI
Guest
> > A also
> wonder if much of the "appeal" of Jack-type stations is the
> fact they are jockless.
Well, it's certainly appealing to the companie$ who own the $tation$!
> wonder if much of the "appeal" of Jack-type stations is the
> fact they are jockless.
Well, it's certainly appealing to the companie$ who own the $tation$!
E
eGillCVI
Guest
Re: More speculation Big Apple
> > Well, how about this: Oldies returns to NYC on 92.3?
> Does
> > Infinity have the guts to be heroes?
> That isn't happening. Would be nice, but not happening. I
> would be REALLY surprised if Infinity brought oldies back.
>
Wouldn't it be funny if that was the plan all along? (It's clearly not since the jocks have already gone elsewhere.)
> > Well, how about this: Oldies returns to NYC on 92.3?
> Does
> > Infinity have the guts to be heroes?
> That isn't happening. Would be nice, but not happening. I
> would be REALLY surprised if Infinity brought oldies back.
>
Wouldn't it be funny if that was the plan all along? (It's clearly not since the jocks have already gone elsewhere.)
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