Could This Be True For Satellite?

[apco25]

For those who listened to Michael Savage's 12th anniversary, he had his syndicator on the show beside congradulating him, answered a question from Savage about the future of AM and satellite radio.
If you heard his syndicator's response stating that satellite radio as we speak of the moment is already antiquated. Broadband has or will take over as far as the main entertaining and information source.

He mentioned that satellite it's a neat system, but for something that has been around for only 5 years, he made it sound the way of the vinyl record or dinosaur.
Do you think it hit it's peak already?

 

[Shawman]

> For those who listened to Michael Savage's 12th anniversary,
> he had his syndicator on the show beside congradulating him,
> answered a question from Savage about the future of AM and
> satellite radio.
> If you heard his syndicator's response stating that
> satellite radio as we speak of the moment is already
> antiquated. Broadband has or will take over as far as the
> main entertaining and information source.
>
> He mentioned that satellite it's a neat system, but for
> something that has been around for only 5 years, he made it
> sound the way of the vinyl record or dinosaur.
> Do you think it hit it's peak already?
>
My guess is we are about 5 years away from having wireless broadband in your car. It's perfected up to about 50 MPH now.. and they will soon have it working up to 75MPH or so. When that happeneds, there will be no need to pay for costly satillites. Over time thousands of stations will spring up on-line (there are many already). Some serving local areas, some national, some global. Like always, content will win.
Satillite may survive as a non-commercial option, as long as they can attract enough subscribers to pay the bills. But attracting those people will become harder once you have thousands of free options from the broadband in your car.

 

[Slinky]

> He mentioned that satellite it's a neat system, but for
> something that has been around for only 5 years, he made it
> sound the way of the vinyl record or dinosaur.
> Do you think it hit it's peak already?

I agree with Shawman that wireless broadband will really hit the mainstream in 2010, but when you consider how many people lag behind, I think satellite will be peaking right around that time as well. So no, there's no way satellite has peaked yet.

 

[GRAYWOLF]

> My guess is we are about 5 years away from having wireless
> broadband in your car. It's perfected up to about 50 MPH
> now.. and they will soon have it working up to 75MPH or so.
> When that happeneds, there will be no need to pay for costly
> satillites. Over time thousands of stations will spring up
> on-line (there are many already). Some serving local areas,
> some national, some global. Like always, content will win.
> Satillite may survive as a non-commercial option, as long as
> they can attract enough subscribers to pay the bills. But
> attracting those people will become harder once you have
> thousands of free options from the broadband in your car.
>
I agree, with the caveat of government intervention will always screw up the best situations.

 

[livingfruitvirus]

> For those who listened to Michael Savage's 12th anniversary,
> he had his syndicator on the show beside congradulating him,
> answered a question from Savage about the future of AM and
> satellite radio.
> If you heard his syndicator's response stating that
> satellite radio as we speak of the moment is already
> antiquated. Broadband has or will take over as far as the
> main entertaining and information source.
>
> He mentioned that satellite it's a neat system, but for
> something that has been around for only 5 years, he made it
> sound the way of the vinyl record or dinosaur.
> Do you think it hit it's peak already?
>

He certainly didn't think that way when XM and Sirius were still carrying him.


I could certainly see broadband internet connections taking over someday. The way technology improves itself at such a rapid pace these days and the changing demands of the public, it's hard to predict the future. One thing satellite radio has is the money and manpower to acquire premier content, while the internet mainly has music going for it, which is still a strong point. Personally, and call me ol' fashioned if you will, I like my radio stations to have an established identity with personalities. Most internet radio I've heard is merely a playlist on random shuffle.

I'd also imagine that eventually the RIAA is going to crap its pants and try to squeeze money out of internet radio as it begins to expand.

 

[apco25]

> > For those who listened to Michael Savage's 12th
> anniversary,
> > he had his syndicator on the show beside congradulating
> him,
> > answered a question from Savage about the future of AM and
>
> > satellite radio.
> > If you heard his syndicator's response stating that
> > satellite radio as we speak of the moment is already
> > antiquated. Broadband has or will take over as far as the
> > main entertaining and information source.
> >
> > He mentioned that satellite it's a neat system, but for
> > something that has been around for only 5 years, he made
> it
> > sound the way of the vinyl record or dinosaur.
> > Do you think it hit it's peak already?
> >
>
> He certainly didn't think that way when XM and Sirius were
> still carrying him.
>
>
> I could certainly see broadband internet connections taking
> over someday. The way technology improves itself at such a
> rapid pace these days and the changing demands of the
> public, it's hard to predict the future. One thing satellite
> radio has is the money and manpower to acquire premier
> content, while the internet mainly has music going for it,
> which is still a strong point. Personally, and call me ol'
> fashioned if you will, I like my radio stations to have an
> established identity with personalities. Most internet radio
> I've heard is merely a playlist on random shuffle.
>
> I'd also imagine that eventually the RIAA is going to crap
> its pants and try to squeeze money out of internet radio as
> it begins to expand.
>


They been doing it already. Plus I want to comment that it wasn't Savage's statement, it was his syndicator's at Premier Broadcast.

 

[olradioguy]

But attracting those people will become harder once you have thousands of free options from the broadband in your car.

How, pray tell, do you propose that thousands of free channels are going to be available on broadband? Based on my experience with broadband, they are finding ways to add more fees or restrict service at every opportunity they can. All the infrastructure for rolling broadband is going to be donated?

 

[Ai4i]

Sirius and XM have both positioned themselves for the future.
They have positioned themselves to become two of the main networks, along with others such as AOL, Rhapsody, Accuradio, Shoutcast, Live365, etc. Some networks will be free; the ones who offer the most variety and customization will cost the most.
If I had a WWW radio in my car today, two important networks for me would be Sirius and XM.<P ID="signature">______________
Proud 2 B a pioneering satellite radio subs¢riber
Ai4i is always on the trailing edge of technology
______________</P>

 

[GRAYWOLF]

> Sirius and XM have both positioned themselves for the
> future.
> They have positioned themselves to become two of the main
> networks, along with others such as AOL, Rhapsody,
> Accuradio, Shoutcast, Live365, etc. Some networks will be
> free; the ones who offer the most variety and customization
> will cost the most.
> If I had a WWW radio in my car today, two important networks
> for me would be Sirius and XM.
>
I will admit that I have not messed with any of those sites (not heard of most), but I would give up my fee based XM if I had access to "free" and commercial free LaunchCast from my vehicle. If you don't have Yahoo as an ISP or don't pay the upgrade fee, you will get a commercial every few songs, but nothing like the quantity you hear on AM/FM.

 

[smashedcd]

> > For those who listened to Michael Savage's 12th
> anniversary,
> > he had his syndicator on the show beside congradulating
> him,
> > answered a question from Savage about the future of AM and
>
> > satellite radio.
> > If you heard his syndicator's response stating that
> > satellite radio as we speak of the moment is already
> > antiquated. Broadband has or will take over as far as the
> > main entertaining and information source.
> >
> > He mentioned that satellite it's a neat system, but for
> > something that has been around for only 5 years, he made
> it
> > sound the way of the vinyl record or dinosaur.
> > Do you think it hit it's peak already?
> >
> My guess is we are about 5 years away from having wireless
> broadband in your car. It's perfected up to about 50 MPH
> now.. and they will soon have it working up to 75MPH or so.
> When that happeneds, there will be no need to pay for costly
> satillites. Over time thousands of stations will spring up
> on-line (there are many already). Some serving local areas,
> some national, some global. Like always, content will win.
> Satillite may survive as a non-commercial option, as long as
> they can attract enough subscribers to pay the bills. But
> attracting those people will become harder once you have
> thousands of free options from the broadband in your car.
>
yea and with most being at a low 24k stream..and you thought xm sounded bad!! yea listen to something you can barely hear ...i dont think so!<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>

 

[ricoontheradio]

> One thing satellite
> radio has is the money and manpower to acquire premier
> content, while the internet mainly has music going for it,
> which is still a strong point. Personally, and call me ol'
> fashioned if you will, I like my radio stations to have an
> established identity with personalities. Most internet radio
> I've heard is merely a playlist on random shuffle.


First off, I will say that I have XM - This is not a rant against "evil" - Just an opinion I've had since satellite radio launched.

Satellite radio is blowing its wod on technology as well. Those satellites, as you know, are extremely expensive. Hundreds of millions for various programming isn't helping the cause either. Internet radio has a better chance of being profitable in a shorter time frame due to the extremely affordable technology.

Currently, most internet radio stations are "just a playlist" because there isn't an easy way to monetize the medium yet. Bandwidth for streaming is very pricey, and those that offer "more affordable" service typically end up shutting off their high-usage customers.

The main reason for the difficulty in monetizing is that there are not many services (you can probably count the legitimate ones on one hand) that offer internet radio advertising sales. Part of this has to do with the fact that there isn't a widely available technology to give the medium accountability. Once these two things happen, internet radio will have a better shot at becoming part of the radio game.

Also, once internet radio can be heard via broadband (in the car), I am positive it will be easily monetized, and therefore encourage those serious about internet radio to make the investment into additional programming, and to allow for more listener slots on their streams.

Just my opinion.

SIDE NOTE ABOUT STREAMING:

From one of the bigger streaming providers:
500 concurrent listeners @ 128k bitrate is $1,200/mo. Again, not a lot in the general landscape of media, but when it's so hard to monetize right now, it is scaring people away from growing the they probably could.
(Not mentioning the streaming provider I quoted, as I don't want Mods to think I'm promoting a service/business)

 

[apco25]

> > One thing satellite
> > radio has is the money and manpower to acquire premier
> > content, while the internet mainly has music going for it,
>
> > which is still a strong point. Personally, and call me ol'
>
> > fashioned if you will, I like my radio stations to have an
>
> > established identity with personalities. Most internet
> radio
> > I've heard is merely a playlist on random shuffle.
>
>
> First off, I will say that I have XM - This is not a rant
> against "evil" - Just an opinion I've had since satellite
> radio launched.
>
> Satellite radio is blowing its wod on technology as well.
> Those satellites, as you know, are extremely expensive.
> Hundreds of millions for various programming isn't helping
> the cause either. Internet radio has a better chance of
> being profitable in a shorter time frame due to the
> extremely affordable technology.
>
> Currently, most internet radio stations are "just a
> playlist" because there isn't an easy way to monetize the
> medium yet. Bandwidth for streaming is very pricey, and
> those that offer "more affordable" service typically end up
> shutting off their high-usage customers.


Are you refering to Live 365?
>
> The main reason for the difficulty in monetizing is that
> there are not many services (you can probably count the
> legitimate ones on one hand) that offer internet radio
> advertising sales. Part of this has to do with the fact that
> there isn't a widely available technology to give the medium
> accountability. Once these two things happen, internet radio
> will have a better shot at becoming part of the radio game.
>
> Also, once internet radio can be heard via broadband (in the
> car), I am positive it will be easily monetized, and
> therefore encourage those serious about internet radio to
> make the investment into additional programming, and to
> allow for more listener slots on their streams.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> SIDE NOTE ABOUT STREAMING:
>
> From one of the bigger streaming providers:
> 500 concurrent listeners @ 128k bitrate is $1,200/mo. Again,
> not a lot in the general landscape of media, but when it's
> so hard to monetize right now, it is scaring people away
> from growing the they probably could.
> (Not mentioning the streaming provider I quoted, as I don't
> want Mods to think I'm promoting a service/business)
>