I think we can begin the countdown to the end of WKNR, what with the quality, entertaining, and intelligent lineup on 92.3 The Fan.
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Countdown to the End of WKNR
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WKNR needs to do a few things. 1) Get rid of Fedor and Hammer or make them board ops where they can't ruin anything 2) Let Hooley and Brinda do the afternoon show by themselves 3) Find some new hosts to replace Munch, Reghi and Roda. There are plenty of weekend shows on 92.3 that are better than the weekday hosts at WKNR they might consider raiding that talent. Karmazin keeps telling me that 95% of the audience loves Fedor and Goldhammer yet I am lucky to find one person that likes those two.
Hammer and Fedor are dreadful as they add nothing to the station. When Tony Rizzo blew up over how the Browns continued to have a miserable season last year, Hammer just basically couldn't chime in because he didn't seem to care one bit. Not to mention the continued dislike toward the Buckeyes, which I'm sure irks the school since KNR carries the games.
Karmazin seems to favor those two over other staffers, which explains why several others were let go, yet those stay put no matter what. That favoritism also showed how people like Sabrina Parr was able to remain at the station even after all the controversies she was involved in. It's no wonder KNR was trashed a lot on message boards. The surveys, on-air bits, personalities, station atmosphere and how people come, go and stay helped made it a joke, more so than when Salem owned the operation.
Even when The Fan launched, the GM didn't seem fazed in an article in the PD as he welcomed the competition. I'm sure he was reluctant to make the changes that were made monts ago. He probably didn't like having consultants involved, and preferrs running KNR and KNR2 his way.
Anyone on The Fan is better than those two guys, including Baskin and Phelps. Not to mention BSK. However, when it comes to raiding that station for new talent at KNR, would anyone want to really leave The Fan? Unless something happens involved being let go in some way, I'm not sure moving from 92 to 850 is an ideal move. One way to lure away talent is to offer them a weekday spot with bigger pay than part-time. Yet, I can't see that happening over at Good Karma in the Galleria.
Most people may actually NOT like Hammer and Fedor, but you can see they are rigged, just so they can stay no matter what others think of them. It appears hell will freeze over until they are finally gone.
Karmazin seems to favor those two over other staffers, which explains why several others were let go, yet those stay put no matter what. That favoritism also showed how people like Sabrina Parr was able to remain at the station even after all the controversies she was involved in. It's no wonder KNR was trashed a lot on message boards. The surveys, on-air bits, personalities, station atmosphere and how people come, go and stay helped made it a joke, more so than when Salem owned the operation.
Even when The Fan launched, the GM didn't seem fazed in an article in the PD as he welcomed the competition. I'm sure he was reluctant to make the changes that were made monts ago. He probably didn't like having consultants involved, and preferrs running KNR and KNR2 his way.
Anyone on The Fan is better than those two guys, including Baskin and Phelps. Not to mention BSK. However, when it comes to raiding that station for new talent at KNR, would anyone want to really leave The Fan? Unless something happens involved being let go in some way, I'm not sure moving from 92 to 850 is an ideal move. One way to lure away talent is to offer them a weekday spot with bigger pay than part-time. Yet, I can't see that happening over at Good Karma in the Galleria.
Most people may actually NOT like Hammer and Fedor, but you can see they are rigged, just so they can stay no matter what others think of them. It appears hell will freeze over until they are finally gone.
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ClevelandRadioFan said:
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ClevelandRadioFan said:
Which is it? "quality,entertaining, and intelligent lineup on 92.3 The Fan" or "some of the driest radio I've heard in a long time. And surprisingly amateurish"
You can't even keep your own trolling straight.
I would listen to Hooley and Brinda if Fedor were not on the show-that simple-Bull and Fox are ok, just nothing special-I listen to Baskin and Phelps-it's less bells and whistles than RBS, and Hammer is just terrible-I'm rooting for 92.3, but I just don't think they have anyone that totally stands out-while I listen to Baskin and Phelps, the analyzing of the Justin Blackmon interview over and over, and trying to figure out whether he REALLY wanted to play in Cleveland was enough to make me turn off the radio-maybe I'm just on draft burnout.
It's a commonly-accepted belief among radio people that only the very, very few, most-active listeners ever call a talk show.
If that's the same for sportstalk, then it would seem the overwhelming number of callers on 850 and 92.3's are extremely active listeners.
And, it's brutally apparent all these people want to talk about is football-football-football-football, 12 months a year.
I pose a question: what if those few hundred or so extremely active sportstalk callers are NOT representative of the average listener?
If that's true...then wall-to-wall football 99% of the time discussions are running off tens of thousands of people who like ALL-3-sports, not just football.
Neither WKNR or 92.3 have incredible ratings. Maybe too much football talk? (Yeah, I know, I must be crazy! LOL).
If that's the same for sportstalk, then it would seem the overwhelming number of callers on 850 and 92.3's are extremely active listeners.
And, it's brutally apparent all these people want to talk about is football-football-football-football, 12 months a year.
I pose a question: what if those few hundred or so extremely active sportstalk callers are NOT representative of the average listener?
If that's true...then wall-to-wall football 99% of the time discussions are running off tens of thousands of people who like ALL-3-sports, not just football.
Neither WKNR or 92.3 have incredible ratings. Maybe too much football talk? (Yeah, I know, I must be crazy! LOL).
CBS is waiting for a chance to bid on carrying the games of one of Cleveland's 3 major league teams: Indians, Browns, Cavs. None of the 3 are available right now.
The current Indians contract with WTAM is, I believe, up after this current season. It's a safe guess 923TheFan will throw the CBS vault at the Tribe in order to become their Cleveland affilliate beginning next season.
The current Indians contract with WTAM is, I believe, up after this current season. It's a safe guess 923TheFan will throw the CBS vault at the Tribe in order to become their Cleveland affilliate beginning next season.
I don't know if WKNR fired you guys or what but the station is better than ever. I've listened to 92.3 a couple times because I hate the Rome show and it's awful. I completely agree that Chris Fedor is awful and a poor mans Aaron Goldhammer but aside from that 850 is great. 92.3 the fan is the station you should count down till it goes under. I don't know anyone who listens to it. Fire Fedor and dont let Hammer talk about the Bucks or Colt and you have yourself the best station onthe air.
MaxJulian said:
I've never worked at WKNR, but I've just gone by my personal tastes after hearing the station, though I will admit I have not listened lately.
I completely respect your opinion. We need more of a balance on boards like this one. Glad you enjoy WKNR, and I wish the station nothing but success.
Even though football by far is the most popular sport most radio stations want to get baseball contracts for play by play due to the amount of dates available. Look for 92.3 to try and get the Indians first.
Thats funny. FYI, the PPM records any detection of a signal encrypted with the inaudible Arbitron tone.MaxJulian said:
You seem to imply that streaming audio is somehow not measured by Arbitron.
The guys who run WKNR are not very smart at times, but you can bet Mel's vacaction house that they encrypt that signal so that the PPM reads it regardless of listening device.
Now that the NFL draft is over, the Cleveland sportstalk stations will have to spend 99% of their time for the next month talking about what the Browns did, didn't do, should've done, and what everybody thinks about it.
Oh....that's right: those hundred or so most-active local sportstalk callers determine what we all will hear on 850 and 92.3. That's right...forgot about that...LOL.
Good, Lord....we're in a baseball season and the NBA playoffs begin this weekend. Would love to hear a little bit about those two pro sports on local sportstalk radio. Does anybody else out there feel like I do?
Oh....that's right: those hundred or so most-active local sportstalk callers determine what we all will hear on 850 and 92.3. That's right...forgot about that...LOL.
Good, Lord....we're in a baseball season and the NBA playoffs begin this weekend. Would love to hear a little bit about those two pro sports on local sportstalk radio. Does anybody else out there feel like I do?
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