Re: WMMO
wow... i think it was the strong reactions you've had that led me to that conclusion. my comments are about what was, not what is. i lived here then and i live here now. i think that what you perceive are facts are actually opinions, and that's okay. we can split hairs over the meaning of Triple A just as easily as we can debate how appropriate it is for a classic rock station to play a new release by Aerosmith. it just ain't that big of a deal.
i don't doubt that the folks at COX give credit to Cary for the station, they should. i don't thnk anything i've written suggests otherwise. as i said earlier, i have spoken with Cary a number of times. In fact, he offered me a fulltime position at WMMO, however, i had two other offers on the table that were more attractive, and opted to take one of them. Later on, Paul Warren called me to offer me a position there again, but I turned him down because i was very happy with the position i was in.
no hard feelings. peace, Bro
> Just stating fact- if you believe I take ANY of this
> personally, you are reading between lines that don't exist
> and overthinking what you see. It really is OK to call
> somebody out if you believe their misinformed or incorrect
> (that's why it's called a "discussion board", so we can
> volley things back & forth).
>
> That being said, so what if some of the titles on the
> station aren't anymore- that doesn't matter because on any
> library-based stations titles come and go. And, during
> their history a lot of music has been recorded that wasn't
> available then. If you actually ask Cary Pall (whom people
> at Cox today still credit with the station's concept), he'll
> tell you it isn't and never was AAA. The "Rock AC"
> descriptor seems to be used the most (or some brand of
> Classic Hits) and today he's still putting on WMMO-type
> stations (latest in Tulsa).
>
> > Oldies Cat, you've reacted to several posts on this board
> as
> > of late as though they were personal attacks on you. Take
> a
> > deep breath. This is just a discussion. I lived in Orlando
>
> > then, actually, since 1984, and I live here now. I was
> born
> > here many years before that (lets not go there!) and even
> > though i left for a couple decades, i spent every summer
> > here since birth.
> >
> > When WMMO debuted circa 1990 it was under the programming
> > direction of Cary Pall in 1990, who was also the engineer.
>
> > Those who lived in Orlando during that time heard a
> > distinctly unique playlist, much different than today. I'm
>
> > not talking about positioning statements or formatics...
> but
> > the songs themselves. It was most definitely Triple A at
> > that time, as Mr. Pall was a pioneer of that format. I
> > recall hearing bands such as Traffic and the cut Hidden
> > Treasure. That is not a song you will hear on WMMO today,
> > and is what would be considered of a sound that is typical
>
> > of a Triple A station. I also had several conversations
> with
> > Cary, who referred to the initial format as Triple A, and
> > also bemoaned the reality that it doesn't work in Orlando.
>
> > (the music format, not the station) Other songs no longer
> > heard since the station morphed into its current state:
> > Little Feat's All that you Dream, Bonnie Raitt's Whiskey,
> > Kenny Rankin's version of Manic Depression, I could go on,
>
> > the play list was long. I think the meaning of what I
> wrote
> > is fairly clear. When i said that Orlando wasn't ready, i
> > meant the Triple A music format the station played, not
> WMMO
> > in its current state today. When they programmed as a
> > Triple A, with something in the neighborhood of 3000
> titles,
> > they tanked in the ratings.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Orlando not ready for WMMO? Do your homework- for years
>
> > > they were #1 25-54
> > > and have returned to ranking of late. SOMEBODY down
> there
> >
> > > is listening
> > > and gets it.
> > >
> > > And, they're not (and never were) an AAA station. More
> > > classic hits than anything.
> > >
> > > > When WMMO first hit the airwaves
> > > > in the late 80's (not sure which year) they were a
> real
> > > > Triple A thanks to Cary Pall, but Orlando just wasn't
> > > ready
> > > > for such a sophisticated approach. Still don't know if
>
> > it
> > > > is. Seems Triple A works (or worked) much better out
> > West.
> > >
> > > > Only Triple A I'm aware of that has garnered any
> modicum
> >
> > > of
> > > > succes in the South is "The River" 100.3 in Knoxville,
>
> > TN.
> > >
> > > > Not sure if that format is still there, last I was up
> > > there
> > > > was a year ago. No doubt WMMO is unique, but more of a
>
> > > > hybrid of AC, oldies and the milder AOR hits.
> > > >
> > > > > Also, I wouldn't consider WMMO Orlando a real
> "Jack"
> >
> > > > > (variety hits) station anyway. They are a Rock AC
> (a
> > > term
> > > >
> > > > > they kind of coined when they debuted in the early
> > 90s)
> > > > and
> > > > > haven't seemed to change to me. Their laid back
> easy
> >
> > > > > listening style of announcing and lack of pop or any
>
> > > 80's
> > > > > rhythmic titles would also count them out as being a
>
> > > > Variety
> > > > > hits-Jack station in my opinion.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>