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Cox Should Jack Its Four Florida Stations

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PassDutch

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This will be on the Miami, Orlando, Tampa & North Florida boards. Cox should flip its Jacksonville & Tampa stations to "Jack" clones, modeled after Cox's 98-9 WMMO in Orlando.

Here it is!

Miami: WFLC (Dropping the "Coast" AC Format)
Orlando: WMMO (Has been Floida's first adult hits station)
Tampa: WPOI (Dropping "Point" 80's Format)
Jacksonville: WMXQ (Also Dropping 80's)
 
>

This will be on the Miami, Orlando, Tampa & North Florida
> boards. Cox should flip its Jacksonville & Tampa stations to
> "Jack" clones, modeled after Cox's 98-9 WMMO in Orlando.
>
> Here it is!
>
> Miami: WFLC (Dropping the "Coast" AC Format)
> Orlando: WMMO (Has been Floida's first adult hits station)
> Tampa: WPOI (Dropping "Point" 80's Format)
> Jacksonville: WMXQ (Also Dropping 80's)
>

Jack my ass. Does anyone know how long that format has been in Dallas? Cause the station there doing Jack is the number 14 station in that market. Doesn't make sense to me. Any comments?
 
Re: Cox Should Jack Its Four Florida Stations Jack my ass

Read this!

The 'Jack' format is something that we've used in LA and a few other markets. In LA, it went from 15th to third in total listeners in about a six-month period of time, so obviously this is a format that works exceedingly well. It's sort of like your own iPod. It does not have DJs. It has 1,200 of your top songs and the format has worked extraordinarily well.

Read again it does not have DJs. This is an owners dream come true man!
The most greedy and sleezy station owners will be jacking stations all over the country. Maybe not but it's not good jocks.



The full story below.


Moonves: Infinity to spin fewer stations
Viacom Co-President/COO Les Moonves yesterday confirmed what's already been pretty well known in the radio industry - - that Infinity has cut back on plans to sell most of its radio stations outside the top 20 markets. "We're still looking to sell some of the smaller radio stations. Possibly we're not going to sell quite as many as we initially talked about in the first place, because we'll wait to see what happens with the split, where they all fit in. But we're currently having some conversations about getting rid of some of the smaller radio stations right now," Moonves told a Deutsche Bank Securities conference in New York. Earlier in his presentation, Moonves was upbeat about the future for Viacom's radio and outdoor businesses, which he admitted are currently low single digit growth businesses. "Hopefully they get to mid single digit growth in the near future. I think Joel [Hollander] is doing a terrific job. I think we're changing the formats at a number of stations. We're investing a little bit of money in promotion and programming. We've been running some experiments in terms of promotion. We've done a new format, as you've all heard about loudly here in New York, in the 'Jack' format. God, it seemed like we had shot somebody when we changed the WCBS format. The 'Jack' format is something that we've used in LA and a few other markets. In LA, it went from 15th to third in total listeners in about a six-month period of time, so obviously this is a format that works exceedingly well. It's sort of like your own iPod. It does not have DJs. It has 1,200 of your top songs and the format has worked extraordinarily well. We've also, as I said, put promotion dollars in eight of our stations - - six of them have seen double digit growth. So, I'm optimistic that if we look at radio realistically, as a smaller growth business, it's still a great business that's producing a ton of cash and as we look toward the potential split, cash is a very good thing - - I will take it any day of the week," Moonves said.

RBR observation: Yes, we noted that Moonves was careful to say "if" the split happens several times during his presentation. You've probably read, as we have, speculation that Viacom's management and directors are rethinking whether splitting the company is a good idea, since the two smaller entities could be more vulnerable to competitive attacks. The board is expected to vote on the idea later this month and, if they approve a split, shareholders will vote a few months later. The bottom line is that Sumner Redstone has absolute voting control of Viacom - - and will continue to have absolute voting control of both post-split companies. If he thinks the split is a good idea, it will happen. If not, it won't. No one else's opinion counts.








>
> This will be on the Miami, Orlando, Tampa & North Florida
> > boards. Cox should flip its Jacksonville & Tampa stations
> to
> > "Jack" clones, modeled after Cox's 98-9 WMMO in Orlando.
> >
> > Here it is!
> >
> > Miami: WFLC (Dropping the "Coast" AC Format)
> > Orlando: WMMO (Has been Floida's first adult hits station)
>
> > Tampa: WPOI (Dropping "Point" 80's Format)
> > Jacksonville: WMXQ (Also Dropping 80's)
> >
>
> Jack my ass. Does anyone know how long that format has been
> in Dallas? Cause the station there doing Jack is the number
> 14 station in that market. Doesn't make sense to me. Any
> comments?
>
 
ease up, cat

Hello- Real World calling.

No jocks is a by-product of new JACK stations, not the reason to do the format.
Many brand-new out-of-the-box stations (most, in fact) sign-on with no jocks.
The format is too new for anybody to know if no jocks will ever be on JACK FM.

Get your jaded, skeptical and over-critical head out of your you-know-what.

>
> Read again it does not have DJs. This is an owners dream
> come true man!
> The most greedy and sleezy station owners will be jacking
> stations all over the country. Maybe not but it's not good
> jocks.
>
>
>
> The full story below.
>
>
> Moonves: Infinity to spin fewer stations
> Viacom Co-President/COO Les Moonves yesterday confirmed
> what's already been pretty well known in the radio industry
> - - that Infinity has cut back on plans to sell most of its
> radio stations outside the top 20 markets. "We're still
> looking to sell some of the smaller radio stations. Possibly
> we're not going to sell quite as many as we initially talked
> about in the first place, because we'll wait to see what
> happens with the split, where they all fit in. But we're
> currently having some conversations about getting rid of
> some of the smaller radio stations right now," Moonves told
> a Deutsche Bank Securities conference in New York. Earlier
> in his presentation, Moonves was upbeat about the future for
> Viacom's radio and outdoor businesses, which he admitted are
> currently low single digit growth businesses. "Hopefully
> they get to mid single digit growth in the near future. I
> think Joel [Hollander] is doing a terrific job. I think
> we're changing the formats at a number of stations. We're
> investing a little bit of money in promotion and
> programming. We've been running some experiments in terms of
> promotion. We've done a new format, as you've all heard
> about loudly here in New York, in the 'Jack' format. God, it
> seemed like we had shot somebody when we changed the WCBS
> format. The 'Jack' format is something that we've used in LA
> and a few other markets. In LA, it went from 15th to third
> in total listeners in about a six-month period of time, so
> obviously this is a format that works exceedingly well. It's
> sort of like your own iPod. It does not have DJs. It has
> 1,200 of your top songs and the format has worked
> extraordinarily well. We've also, as I said, put promotion
> dollars in eight of our stations - - six of them have seen
> double digit growth. So, I'm optimistic that if we look at
> radio realistically, as a smaller growth business, it's
> still a great business that's producing a ton of cash and as
> we look toward the potential split, cash is a very good
> thing - - I will take it any day of the week," Moonves said.
>
>
> RBR observation: Yes, we noted that Moonves was careful to
> say "if" the split happens several times during his
> presentation. You've probably read, as we have, speculation
> that Viacom's management and directors are rethinking
> whether splitting the company is a good idea, since the two
> smaller entities could be more vulnerable to competitive
> attacks. The board is expected to vote on the idea later
> this month and, if they approve a split, shareholders will
> vote a few months later. The bottom line is that Sumner
> Redstone has absolute voting control of Viacom - - and will
> continue to have absolute voting control of both post-split
> companies. If he thinks the split is a good idea, it will
> happen. If not, it won't. No one else's opinion counts.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > This will be on the Miami, Orlando, Tampa & North Florida
> > > boards. Cox should flip its Jacksonville & Tampa
> stations
> > to
> > > "Jack" clones, modeled after Cox's 98-9 WMMO in Orlando.
>
> > >
> > > Here it is!
> > >
> > > Miami: WFLC (Dropping the "Coast" AC Format)
> > > Orlando: WMMO (Has been Floida's first adult hits
> station)
> >
> > > Tampa: WPOI (Dropping "Point" 80's Format)
> > > Jacksonville: WMXQ (Also Dropping 80's)
> > >
> >
> > Jack my ass. Does anyone know how long that format has
> been
> > in Dallas? Cause the station there doing Jack is the
> number
> > 14 station in that market. Doesn't make sense to me. Any
> > comments?
> >
>
 
> Jack my ass. Does anyone know how long that format has been
> in Dallas? Cause the station there doing Jack is the number
> 14 station in that market. Doesn't make sense to me. Any
> comments?

The JACK-FM brand debuted in Dallas on July 1, 2004. As for the ranking you listed, don't confuse 12+ with 25-54, where JACK-FM has been strong for Infinity. Had Jack struggled in Dallas, do you think Infinity would have rolled it out in three of the other top four U.S. markets (plus others) and created a VP position strictly for the format?<P ID="signature">______________
Lou Pickney
Tampa, FL
RadioHotTalk.com & VarietyHits.com</P>
 
> > Jack my ass. Does anyone know how long that format has
> been
> > in Dallas? Cause the station there doing Jack is the
> number
> > 14 station in that market. Doesn't make sense to me. Any
> > comments?
>
> The JACK-FM brand debuted in Dallas on July 1, 2004. As for
> the ranking you listed, don't confuse 12+ with 25-54, where
> JACK-FM has been strong for Infinity. Had Jack struggled in
> Dallas, do you think Infinity would have rolled it out in
> three of the other top four U.S. markets (plus others) and
> created a VP position strictly for the format?

I'm not disputing your comment about the JACK in Dallas doing well
25-54 but how good is "well". If your number 14 12+ in a city
the size of Dallas, is it possible your 25-54 demo could be that good?
We're not talking #14 12+ in Omaha, it's Dallas. How could you
possibly be doing even marginally well 25-54. Maybe it's just me.
>
 
> I'm not disputing your comment about the JACK in Dallas doing well 25-54 but
> how good is "well". If your number 14 12+ in a city the size of Dallas, is
> it possible your 25-54 demo could be that good?

From what I understand, it has come in #4 25-54. But to be fair, that is second-hand knowledge, and I haven't seen any ratings books myself to verify that.<P ID="signature">______________
Lou Pickney
Tampa, FL
RadioHotTalk.com & VarietyHits.com</P>
 
Jack in Dallas 25-54

Latest trend, Jack in Dallas is #8 and has been as high as #6 (25-54 adults).
>
> From what I understand, it has come in #4 25-54. But to be
> fair, that is second-hand knowledge, and I haven't seen any
> ratings books myself to verify that.
>
 
Re: Jack in Dallas 25-54

> Latest trend, Jack in Dallas is #8 and has been as high as
> #6 (25-54 adults).
> >
> > From what I understand, it has come in #4 25-54. But to be
> > fair, that is second-hand knowledge, and I haven't seen any
> > ratings books myself to verify that.

Thank you for the clarification -- unfortunately that's what happens sometimes with second-hand information.<P ID="signature">______________
Lou Pickney
Tampa, FL
RadioHotTalk.com & VarietyHits.com</P>
 
no sweat

sometimes it's hard to read through the blizzard of disinformation.
:eek:)-


> Thank you for the clarification -- unfortunately that's what
> happens sometimes with second-hand information.
>
> > Latest trend, Jack in Dallas is #8 and has been as high as
> > #6 (25-54 adults). From what I understand, it has come in #4 25-54. But to
> be fair, that is second-hand knowledge, and I haven't seen any
> > > ratings books myself to verify that.
 
PassDutch said:
This will be on the Miami, Orlando, Tampa & North Florida boards. Cox should flip its Jacksonville & Tampa stations to "Jack" clones, modeled after Cox's 98-9 WMMO in Orlando.

Here it is!

Miami: WFLC (Dropping the "Coast" AC Format)
Orlando: WMMO (Has been Floida's first adult hits station)
Tampa: WPOI (Dropping "Point" 80's Format)
Jacksonville: WMXQ (Also Dropping 80's)

Cox Radio's WPOI Tampa Bay should drop music altogether and go full time local and regional (with some national topics mixed in) hot or progressive talk on FM. There is a real market void for talk radio on the FM dial in that market.

Mark Tillery,
Ocala, Florida
 
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