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Cox & The Dixie Chicks!!!

Just for the record radiofriend...who is Natalie Maineds?

Like this Natalie Maineds you write about...I, too, have the right of free speech (thank God). But, unlike Natalie Maineds, I refuse to say something so incredibly stupid that would put my life and livelyhood (my career) into a nosedive. That is just blatent common sense...something you would have no clue about.
 
Blart said:
Just for the record radiofriend...who is Natalie Maineds?

Like this Natalie Maineds you write about...I, too, have the right of free speech (thank God). But, unlike Natalie Maineds, I refuse to say something so incredibly stupid that would put my life and livelyhood (my career) into a nosedive. That is just blatent common sense...something you would have no clue about.

oh gee-grow up

**DUH-UH, he uh made a typo...........hurray........duh**

hope U got your 2nd grade jolly for the day
 
Didn't their latest album go to number 1 in sales? Looks like the public voted with their pocketbooks by buying several million copies of the cd. Anybody have any evidence of any station that DID play the Chicks being hurt by it?
 
manwhore said:
Didn't their latest album go to number 1 in sales? Looks like the public voted with their pocketbooks by buying several million copies of the cd. Anybody have any evidence of any station that DID play the Chicks being hurt by it?

true. very true. not bad for pinko commies, huh. and no radio stations got hurt playing anything from it (mostly ac stations). especially when U consider the original **backlash** was started by ultra conservative groups around the country (and NOT by radio listeners) U realize this was just another major move to silence war critics-nothing more and nothing less
 
radiofriend1 said:
true. very true. not bad for pinko commies, huh. and no radio stations got hurt playing anything from it (mostly ac stations). especially when U consider the original **backlash** was started by ultra conservative groups around the country (and NOT by radio listeners) U realize this was just another major move to silence war critics-nothing more and nothing less

Tell me how callout song research and AMTs can be influenced by political action groups, and may be you have a conspiracy theory.

Otherwise, stations were doing what they do every day: taking off songs listeners do not want to hear and putting on the ones they do.
 
manwhore said:
Didn't their latest album go to number 1 in sales? Looks like the public voted with their pocketbooks by buying several million copies of the cd. Anybody have any evidence of any station that DID play the Chicks being hurt by it?

My impression is that the people who bought the CD were for the most part not core country radio listeners. Are you aware that the Dixie Chicks had to cancel or downscale their concert tour in many cities, including Houston?

When the CD first came out, I read an article about a few PDs who decided to play "not ready to play nice", they thought enough time had passed and country listeners were ready to embrace the Dixie Chicks again. I checked the airplay monitor and couldn't help but notice about two weeks latter the stations featured in the article (such as KEEY/Minneapolis and WGAR/Cleveland) dropped the Dixie Chicks! That means the feedback they received was so negative that they had no choice but drop the Chicks.
 
OldGringo said:
radiofriend1 said:
true. very true. not bad for pinko commies, huh. and no radio stations got hurt playing anything from it (mostly ac stations). especially when U consider the original **backlash** was started by ultra conservative groups around the country (and NOT by radio listeners) U realize this was just another major move to silence war critics-nothing more and nothing less

Tell me how callout song research and AMTs can be influenced by political action groups, and may be you have a conspiracy theory.

Otherwise, stations were doing what they do every day: taking off songs listeners do not want to hear and putting on the ones they do.

it's not like the country crowd is exactly a bunch of free thinkers anyway. all they need is a "cause" or some other lemming mechanism and they all bite-hook line & sinker. when stations started getting these conservative groups calling & complaining (and i mean IN DROVES, by the thousands) the country jocks got on the air and echoed it (buying that it was their actual listeners calling in) and the listener base also bought it

not that complicated or difficult to do IF the mechanism is in place to react & respond. they (right wing conservative bush supporters) did
 
Anybody actually see any callout results for the Chicks? Like I said in my first post on this subject, the Chicks album is definitely more rock than country. And easily way more sophisticated than your run of the mill "Shockin' Y'all" hillbilly claptrap. The cd sits in my car alongside the Chili Peppers, Velvet Revolver and Hinder, and hangs with them well, especially when you turn it up.
And, ARE there any brain surgeons programming country stations anywhere? Like, any smart enough to distinguish between actual listener response and some mass generated e-mailing or calls from the same few people who managed to convince the FCC that millions of people were upset by the Janet Jackson "wardrobe malfunction"?
From where I sit, admittedly the left side of the aisle, the Chicks are American patriots, willing to put their beliefs before their pocketbooks. Any of you guys willing to do the same?
 
radiofriend1 said:
it's not like the country crowd is exactly a bunch of free thinkers anyway.

No, most are not moving to Berkley and joining the ACLU. It's a different lifestyle group, in which conservative family values prevail. The DC's violated the trust of these listeners, who are not dumb... just traditionalists.

Marx and Engel were free thinkers, too. Being a "free thinker" is not necessarily a good quality.

all they need is a "cause" or some other lemming mechanism and they all bite-hook line & sinker.

They are not morons. They are just people who like country music and are part of a greater or broader lifestyle that is a unifying quality that goes beyond the music itself. I think you will find that many forms of music represent particular lifestyles and ways of thinking, not just country. And you will no more be able to say that "all goths are lemmings" than you can say that about country listeners.

A lifestyle is made up of people who think alike. Lemmings are people who do not think.

when stations started getting these conservative groups calling & complaining (and i mean IN DROVES, by the thousands) the country jocks got on the air and echoed it (buying that it was their actual listeners calling in) and the listener base also bought it

You know, it was such a fast response that there is no way that some "pro-war" group could have thought it up, organized callers and even found out the particular stations to call nationwide. I mean, it was within minutes of the news hitting that listeners were calling thier favorite stations to say, "I don't want to hear those girls any more." Stations in the middle of call out cycles saw it the first evening, too

not that complicated or difficult to do IF the mechanism is in place to react & respond. they (right wing conservative bush supporters) did

Nobody can mobilize in less than an hour, nationwide. It was the will of the core listeners, not outside forces at... uh, hang on... there is this "whup whup" noise outside my house... it's a helicopter... a black helicopter and its coming to....
 
I checked Billboard and they seem to have maintained fair CD sales in spite of the political yammering.
You have to admit, they are talented.
It was kinda dumb of them to make that statement at that point in time. Did they think anyone was actually dumb enough to support them?
 
manwhore said:
Anybody actually see any callout results for the Chicks? Like I said in my first post on this subject, the Chicks album is definitely more rock than country. And easily way more sophisticated than your run of the mill "Shockin' Y'all" hillbilly claptrap. The cd sits in my car alongside the Chili Peppers, Velvet Revolver and Hinder, and hangs with them well, especially when you turn it up.
And, ARE there any brain surgeons programming country stations anywhere? Like, any smart enough to distinguish between actual listener response and some mass generated e-mailing or calls from the same few people who managed to convince the FCC that millions of people were upset by the Janet Jackson "wardrobe malfunction"?
From where I sit, admittedly the left side of the aisle, the Chicks are American patriots, willing to put their beliefs before their pocketbooks. Any of you guys willing to do the same?

they(chicks detractors) are not

it's much easier to be a lemming and follow **the crowd**.
 
manwhore said:
From where I sit, admittedly the left side of the aisle, the Chicks are American patriots, willing to put their beliefs before their pocketbooks. Any of you guys willing to do the same?

Nothing wrong with that! Just don't cry, whine, and bellyache about "freedom of speech" when some of the public rejects you. The U.S. Government has not attempted in the slightest to abridge their free speech.
 
radiodial said:
The U.S. Government has not attempted in the slightest to abridge their free speech.

not the govt, per se. just those who support the current, embattled adminisration
 
radiofriend1 said:
radiodial said:
The U.S. Government has not attempted in the slightest to abridge their free speech.

not the govt, per se. just those who support the current, embattled adminisration

Then their right to free speech has NOT been abridged in the least. Crying about the public rejecting you is pathetic.
 
radiodial said:
radiofriend1 said:
radiodial said:
The U.S. Government has not attempted in the slightest to abridge their free speech.

not the govt, per se. just those who support the current, embattled adminisration

Then their right to free speech has NOT been abridged in the least. Crying about the public rejecting you is pathetic.

THIS JUST IN. the dixie chicks have never ciriticized the fans. they **GET IT**

they are not **CRYING** they never did. they understood what their words might do and they accept it. these 3 ladies (contrary to what U would like 2 believe) are not drowning in sorrows and despair

they are big girls and understand what's going on

the only **controversy** is what the right wing is continually bringing up: dixie chix, streisand, kennedys, clinton, kerry........ on and on and on

forget where our country is TODAY. let's just keep launching personal venemous attacks on those who disagree with us is the radical right wing agenda
 
must mean i am onto something

when U make a point the radical right can't counter, they then ALWAYS 100% of the time resort to some personal attack or mocking

THAT is when U know U are on the right track
 
Yeah, I think the only "fans" the Chicks complained about were the upstanding Americans who threatened to kill them for disagreeing with the Fuerh....uh...President.
Monetarily, I'm sure they cried all the way to the bank.
 
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