Critique this Classic Rock Playlist

[saladdressing]

These are a couple of sample hours from KRBR Duluth, Minnesota which has recently changed from Rock to a classic rock-based format. What does anyone think about this as a template for a station trying to go up against an established classic rock / classic hits station in any market?

Here is the 10 AM hour
1:00:00a GEORGE WHO DO YOU LOVE C
10:04:17a JET COLD HARD BITCH C
10:08:18a AEROSMITH TRAIN KEPT A ROLLIN C
10:12:42a METALLICA UNTIL IT SLEEPS C
10:17:06a DOORS BREAK ON THROUGH C
10:19:33a STEVIE RAY THE SKY IS CRYING
10:23:03a REO SPEEDWAGON GOLDEN COUNTRY C
10:29:33a VAN HALEN EVERYBODY WANTS SOME F
10:34:36a KISS SHOUT IT OUT LOUD C
10:37:21a AC/DC DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP C
10:41:27a KANSAS CARRY ON WAYWARD SON F
10:46:43a ALICE IN CHAINS HEAVEN BESIDE YOU F
10:50:29a CARS YOU'RE ALL I'VE GOT TONIGHT C


Here is the 3 PM Hour

03:00:00p DEEP PURPLE SMOKE ON THE WATER(LIVE) C
03:07:00p NICKELBACK SOMEDAY F
03:10:20p DOORS PEOPLE ARE STRANGE C
03:12:26p VAN HALEN WHY CAN'T THIS BE LOVE
03:15:56p JIMI HENDRIX FIRE F
03:18:27p BON JOVI YOU GIVE LOVE A BAD NAME F
03:21:54p ALLMAN BROTHERS IN MEMORY OF ELIZABETH REED C
03:28:46p AEROSMITH THE OTHER SIDE F
03:32:34p URIAH HEEP EASY LIVIN' C
03:35:11p DEF LEPPARD BRINGING ON THE HEARTBREAK F
03:39:32p CREEDENCE SWEET HITCHHIKER F
03:42:24p U2 BEAUTIFUL DAY F
03:46:23p BILLY THORPE CHILDREN OF THE SUN C

 

[smashedcd]

> These are a couple of sample hours from KRBR Duluth,
> Minnesota which has recently changed from Rock to a classic
> rock-based format. What does anyone think about this as a
> template for a station trying to go up against an
> established classic rock / classic hits station in any
> market?
>
> Here is the 10 AM hour
> 1:00:00a GEORGE WHO DO YOU LOVE C
> 10:04:17a JET COLD HARD BITCH C
> 10:08:18a AEROSMITH TRAIN KEPT A ROLLIN C
> 10:12:42a METALLICA UNTIL IT SLEEPS C
> 10:17:06a DOORS BREAK ON THROUGH C
> 10:19:33a STEVIE RAY THE SKY IS CRYING
> 10:23:03a REO SPEEDWAGON GOLDEN COUNTRY C
> 10:29:33a VAN HALEN EVERYBODY WANTS SOME F
> 10:34:36a KISS SHOUT IT OUT LOUD C
> 10:37:21a AC/DC DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP C
> 10:41:27a KANSAS CARRY ON WAYWARD SON F
> 10:46:43a ALICE IN CHAINS HEAVEN BESIDE YOU F
> 10:50:29a CARS YOU'RE ALL I'VE GOT TONIGHT C
>
>
> Here is the 3 PM Hour
>
> 03:00:00p DEEP PURPLE SMOKE ON THE WATER(LIVE) C
> 03:07:00p NICKELBACK SOMEDAY F
> 03:10:20p DOORS PEOPLE ARE STRANGE C
> 03:12:26p VAN HALEN WHY CAN'T THIS BE LOVE
> 03:15:56p JIMI HENDRIX FIRE F
> 03:18:27p BON JOVI YOU GIVE LOVE A BAD NAME F
> 03:21:54p ALLMAN BROTHERS IN MEMORY OF ELIZABETH REED C
> 03:28:46p AEROSMITH THE OTHER SIDE F
> 03:32:34p URIAH HEEP EASY LIVIN' C
> 03:35:11p DEF LEPPARD BRINGING ON THE HEARTBREAK F
> 03:39:32p CREEDENCE SWEET HITCHHIKER F
> 03:42:24p U2 BEAUTIFUL DAY F
> 03:46:23p BILLY THORPE CHILDREN OF THE SUN C
>
better than some, but its still to close to the rest of the fm classic rockers for me..and i hate nickelback <P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>

 

[StereoBrain]

> i hate nickelback

Who doesn't?

 

[classic_rocker]

> > i hate nickelback
>
> Who doesn't?
>
Call me old but I just can't get myself to call nicleback and Alice in chains "classic"..... Doors,Beatles,Kiss,Floyd,Zep,.... even 80s hair bands yeah. But anything post-grunge.... thats just plain bad music. Slightly better than hip-hop, but not by much.
Want to hear a classic rock station the way it should be done?? Go to WDRV.COM

 

[mofo1037]

Looks to me like a fairly safe, solid playlist.

Radio guys may hate Nickelback, but the fact is they're selling millions of CDs and packing arenas. If you're playing currents, you're playing Nickelback.

Judging by these sample hours KRBR has switched to a Rock format very similar to the one at my station...and we consistently kick the living sh*t out of the crosstown Classic Rock-only station.


> These are a couple of sample hours from KRBR Duluth,
> Minnesota which has recently changed from Rock to a classic
> rock-based format. What does anyone think about this as a
> template for a station trying to go up against an
> established classic rock / classic hits station in any
> market?
>
> Here is the 10 AM hour
> 1:00:00a GEORGE WHO DO YOU LOVE C
> 10:04:17a JET COLD HARD BITCH C
> 10:08:18a AEROSMITH TRAIN KEPT A ROLLIN C
> 10:12:42a METALLICA UNTIL IT SLEEPS C
> 10:17:06a DOORS BREAK ON THROUGH C
> 10:19:33a STEVIE RAY THE SKY IS CRYING
> 10:23:03a REO SPEEDWAGON GOLDEN COUNTRY C
> 10:29:33a VAN HALEN EVERYBODY WANTS SOME F
> 10:34:36a KISS SHOUT IT OUT LOUD C
> 10:37:21a AC/DC DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP C
> 10:41:27a KANSAS CARRY ON WAYWARD SON F
> 10:46:43a ALICE IN CHAINS HEAVEN BESIDE YOU F
> 10:50:29a CARS YOU'RE ALL I'VE GOT TONIGHT C
>
>
> Here is the 3 PM Hour
>
> 03:00:00p DEEP PURPLE SMOKE ON THE WATER(LIVE) C
> 03:07:00p NICKELBACK SOMEDAY F
> 03:10:20p DOORS PEOPLE ARE STRANGE C
> 03:12:26p VAN HALEN WHY CAN'T THIS BE LOVE
> 03:15:56p JIMI HENDRIX FIRE F
> 03:18:27p BON JOVI YOU GIVE LOVE A BAD NAME F
> 03:21:54p ALLMAN BROTHERS IN MEMORY OF ELIZABETH REED C
> 03:28:46p AEROSMITH THE OTHER SIDE F
> 03:32:34p URIAH HEEP EASY LIVIN' C
> 03:35:11p DEF LEPPARD BRINGING ON THE HEARTBREAK F
> 03:39:32p CREEDENCE SWEET HITCHHIKER F
> 03:42:24p U2 BEAUTIFUL DAY F
> 03:46:23p BILLY THORPE CHILDREN OF THE SUN C
>

 

[RFLA]

> > > i hate nickelback
> >
> > Who doesn't?
> >
> Call me old but I just can't get myself to call nicleback
> and Alice in chains "classic".....
> Doors,Beatles,Kiss,Floyd,Zep,.... even 80s hair bands yeah.
> But anything post-grunge.... thats just plain bad music.
> Slightly better than hip-hop, but not by much.
> Want to hear a classic rock station the way it should be
> done?? Go to WDRV.COM
>


Whereas I must be in the minority....

I like Nickelback, but their stuff can get obnoxious due to the pretty much use of he same beats... Great good if they could get out of the rut.

personally... I'd rather see a station like that do more newer music per hour, other than Jet (which in IMO is just a wannabe ac/dc).

Younger listeners are listening to classic rock but also, it's the same 400 songs warmed over... I beleive in a classic rock "heritage" station could do better than a garden variety classic rock only if done right but....


Radio has become a place where a consultant comes in and nixes the idea calling it "not what your P1s are looking for"

RFLA

 

[Oldbones]

> These are a couple of sample hours from KRBR Duluth,
> Minnesota which has recently changed from Rock to a classic
> rock-based format. What does anyone think about this as a
> template for a station trying to go up against an
> established classic rock / classic hits station in any
> market?

I'd love to go up against a station like this. A focused classic rocker would whoop them good (in CR demos, probably not in an under-30 audience). They seem to be playing WAY too many mid-charting B- or C-rotation titles, and an awful lot of new-ish (for a classic rocker) stuff. Are you sure they're positioning themselves as a classic rock station? What's the competitive situation like in this market? Are they the only game in town if you want a rock station? Long heritage?

 

[Oldbones]

>
> Radio has become a place where a consultant comes in and
> nixes the idea calling it "not what your P1s are looking
> for"
>

And 99% of the time they're right. I can't think of many instances where the conservatively-programmed station didn't win by a large margin. Get most listeners very far from their "comfort zone" and they'll be gone.

This is something I learned the hard way a long time ago.

 

[RFLA]

> >
> > Radio has become a place where a consultant comes in and
> > nixes the idea calling it "not what your P1s are looking
> > for"
> >
>
> And 99% of the time they're right. I can't think of many
> instances where the conservatively-programmed station didn't
> win by a large margin. Get most listeners very far from
> their "comfort zone" and they'll be gone.
>
> This is something I learned the hard way a long time ago.
>


My argument is some of the new rock, if you use the pop version of the song, can usually be given to a mainstream or classic rock loving group and I don't think they would see too many problems with say three doors down f/ Bob seger.... I mean the mainstream rock stations have been playing the ac/dc knockoffs Jet for the last few years with not too many complaints (must not cause I find it in rotation in a few places)

RFLA

 

[Jay_F]

> > i hate nickelback
>
> Who doesn't?
>


There are two problems with Nickelback

1. Their songs sound too similar to each other.

2.They sound too much like the other bands in their genre.

Yet I wouldn't punch out if I heard Nickelback on a current based format such as Hot AC. I actually kind of like "Photograph" for some reason, it's a guilty pleasure. BUT if I heard Nickelback on a station that calls themselves "Classic Rock" I would not only punch out, I would take the station off my pre-set and never come back.

For my personal tastes, I prefer a classic rock that is well focused and concentrates on late 60s-early 80s. I don't want to hear any late 80s hairbands on a classic rock (or anywhere else). I liked early 90s grunge better than the hairbands, but I still don't want to hear grunge on classic rock stations.

I suppose my ideal classic rock station might attract too old of an audience (or would in another 5-10 years), but I still think it would do better than a classic rocker that mixes old and new music, when you try to be all things to all people you end up meaning nothing to nobody. The only way this type of wide era classic rocker could succeed is a small and/or "underradioed" market, I don't know much about the Duluth radio landscape. If Duluth has both an active rocker and a "real" classic rock, this station will probably fail.

 

[smashedcd2]

> > Radio has become a place where a consultant comes in and> nixes the idea calling it "not what your P1s are looking> for"> And 99% of the time they're right. I can't think of many instances where the conservatively-programmed station didn't win by a large margin. Get most listeners very far from their "comfort zone" and they'll be gone.This is something I learned the hard way a long time ago.

really check wrno new orleans..conservative playlist..LOW ratings..and a new format coming in a few weeks..newstalk 995 wrno. your conservative stationsm are the reason i went to xm. i hate the fm repetition. and i am not alone. true. you are right many people do like it. but many more dont. remember the days of pulling in 10 shares. now you are lucky if you have a 3.7 share.