Crying over spilled milk

[ElCheapo]

Since the HD Radio rollout isn't going to be stopped by the 10 or so whiners in this forum, let me ask about your future plans...

When nighttime AM-IBOC becomes reality, and the FCC has given HD in general its blessing, what on Earth are you going to do with your free time?

Continue to run aroud with the internet equivalent of tin foil hats on decrying the technology and looking like kooks?

 

[Tom Wells]

Why, simple. Begin the direct mail campaign to stations in my own market, letting them know they sound like .....
Buy the HD radios and return them with howls of protest, after collecting the rebate.
Let others know why the FCC has decided to permit this travesty.
Sell bumper stickers. "ibiquity stole your radio station." "ibiquity broke your radios" "The FCC sold your airwaves to ibiquity."
Maybe I'll put a great big damped oscillation noisemaker of my own on the air.
If wideband destruction is an authorized mode, I'll put solid core ignition wires in my car and a big pigtail to the center post of the dist cap , run up to an antenna for noise generation.

You want to start a NOISE war?

I'll help the station understand how they are driving away listeners.
I'll help the listeners understand why they should protest.

Actually, I'm not too worried. I wanted AM stereo to succeed, and the public yawned, big time.
This system is far less workable or dependable. I fully expect it to fail on its own weakness.
How will YOU celebrate?
A satanic mass?

 

[ElCheapo]

How will YOU celebrate?
A satanic mass?

Doubtful... I don't really have a lot invested in the success of HD. I'm just curious to know how the crybabies are going to handle it.

All of the things you listed really don't surprise me.

Just make sure the rebate (if there is one at that time) is for more than the restock fee (usually 15%.)

 

[700WLW]

Since the HD Radio rollout isn't going to be stopped by the 10 or so whiners in this forum, let me ask about your future plans...

When nighttime AM-IBOC becomes reality, and the FCC has given HD in general its blessing, what on Earth are you going to do with your free time?

Continue to run aroud with the internet equivalent of tin foil hats on decrying the technology and looking like kooks?

Since I am in Maryland, so I can just DX into Canada (that is, if adjacent US IBLOC stations don't obliterate the signals) to get simulcast nighttime AM talk shows (but, I sure would miss Scott Sloan WLW); atleast Canada has authorized a separate band for digital radio, but as in the US, there is very little interest from the general public.

 

[ElCheapo]

atleast Canada has authorized a separate band for digital radio, but as in the US, there is very little interest from the general public.

Gee... And you wonder why American broadcasters don't want to do that. It would be considerably more expensive to build a brand new infrastructure than it is to add technology to an existing one.

 

[700WLW]

atleast Canada has authorized a separate band for digital radio, but as in the US, there is very little interest from the general public.

Gee... And you wonder why American broadcasters don't want to do that. It would be considerably more expensive to build a brand new infrastructure than it is to add technology to an existing one.

Yea, this flawed and fraudulent technology certainly wouldn't be worth it !

 

[ElCheapo]

atleast Canada has authorized a separate band for digital radio, but as in the US, there is very little interest from the general public.

Gee... And you wonder why American broadcasters don't want to do that. It would be considerably more expensive to build a brand new infrastructure than it is to add technology to an existing one.

Yea, this flawed and fraudulent technology certainly wouldn't be worth it !

Since you have a new found interest in changing the tone here and actually debating technical merits of the technology, could you please explain your "fraudulent" comment?

"Flawed" I can understand as some - particularly DXers - might see it that way, but "fraudulent?"

Please explain...

 

[700WLW]

atleast Canada has authorized a separate band for digital radio, but as in the US, there is very little interest from the general public.

Gee... And you wonder why American broadcasters don't want to do that. It would be considerably more expensive to build a brand new infrastructure than it is to add technology to an existing one.

Yea, this flawed and fraudulent technology certainly wouldn't be worth it !

Since you have a new found interest in changing the tone here and actually debating technical merits of the technology, could you please explain your "fraudulent" comment?

"Flawed" I can understand as some - particularly DXers - might see it that way, but "fraudulent?"

Please explain...

By making false claims of coverage, they are under investigation by the CPB.

 

[ElCheapo]

By making false claims of coverage, they are under investigation by the CPB.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting?

Is Big Bird going to arrest them?

 

[700WLW]

By making false claims of coverage, they are under investigation by the CPB.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting?

Is Big Bird going to arrest them?

You got the answer that you requested - now, you are trying to down-play it.

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

When nighttime AM-IBOC becomes reality, and the FCC has given HD in general its blessing, what on Earth are you going to do with your free time?

We'll probably:

1) Watch with interest as the stacks of receivers gather dust in the stores, due to lack of demand, while the 800 million analog receivers in the US continue to grow in number.
2) Watch with interest as broadcasters start turning off IBOC when they discover it's neither making them the boatloads of money they were promised, nor is it bringing back the listeners they've lost to other media, nor does it cover the same land area as analog, nor is it the high quality signal they were led to believe.
3) Watch with interest when broadcasters realize that there's no economic basis for doubling or tripling the number of FM signals in each market. It's so sad that broadcasters apparently learned nothing from the FCC Docket 80-90 debacle, because they are determined to make exactly the same mistake all over again.
4) Watch with interest as the AM band rapidly becomes utterly useless, due to everyone's signals spitting buzzing carriers into everyone else's signals...not that there isn't already too much noise in the AM band; running digital carriers well into the first adjacent channel (the IBOC spec for AM shows the primary digital carriers at 9.6 to 14.7 kHz away from the main analog carrier) will just be the final nail in its coffin.

Then, we'll probably be disgusted at the massive, wasted investment of time, energy and money into something which has proven to be so enormous a failure. It's nothing to gloat over. It's just sad and wrong.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

When nighttime AM-IBOC becomes reality, and the FCC has given HD in general its blessing, what on Earth are you going to do with your free time?

We'll probably:

1) Watch with interest as the stacks of receivers gather dust in the stores, due to lack of demand, while the 800 million analog receivers in the US continue to grow in number.
2) Watch with interest as broadcasters start turning off IBOC when they discover it's neither making them the boatloads of money they were promised, nor is it bringing back the listeners they've lost to other media, nor does it cover the same land area as analog, nor is it the high quality signal they were led to believe.
3) Watch with interest when broadcasters realize that there's no economic basis for doubling or tripling the number of FM signals in each market. It's so sad that broadcasters apparently learned nothing from the FCC Docket 80-90 debacle, because they are determined to make exactly the same mistake all over again.
4) Watch with interest as the AM band rapidly becomes utterly useless, due to everyone's signals spitting buzzing carriers into everyone else's signals...not that there isn't already too much noise in the AM band; running digital carriers well into the first adjacent channel (the IBOC spec for AM shows the primary digital carriers at 9.6 to 14.7 kHz away from the main analog carrier) will just be the final nail in its coffin.

Then, we'll probably be disgusted at the massive, wasted investment of time, energy and money into something which has proven to be so enormous a failure. It's nothing to gloat over. It's just sad and wrong.

I think you have described the HD Radio situation perfectly. Right on.

 

[audiophile.]

Why, simple. Begin the direct mail campaign to stations in my own market, letting them know they sound like .....
Buy the HD radios and return them with howls of protest, after collecting the rebate.
Let others know why the FCC has decided to permit this travesty.
Sell bumper stickers. "ibiquity stole your radio station." "ibiquity broke your radios" "The FCC sold your airwaves to ibiquity."
Maybe I'll put a great big damped oscillation noisemaker of my own on the air.
If wideband destruction is an authorized mode, I'll put solid core ignition wires in my car and a big pigtail to the center post of the dist cap , run up to an antenna for noise generation.

You want to start a NOISE war?

I'll help the station understand how they are driving away listeners.
I'll help the listeners understand why they should protest.

Actually, I'm not too worried. I wanted AM stereo to succeed, and the public yawned, big time.
This system is far less workable or dependable. I fully expect it to fail on its own weakness.
How will YOU celebrate?
A satanic mass?

I like your style Tom