‘MAJ was supposed to be the move-in.
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Cumulus KC shuffle coming
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But wasn’t there talk of V100 moving in to KC also and they decided against it? I’m talking like 5-10 years ago, if not longer than that.
I don’t remember that at all. All I remember was the move of 107.7 into KC, but was nixed. (I believe it was explained as to why the move was called off on this board before - don’t quote me on that.)
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Can't be ruled out at this point. No real evidence to suggest it at this point, but no evidence Cumulus has anything planned for 95.7 at the moment either. All announcements on The Vibe this morning indicate, however, that it is leaving 95.7.
KC stations have never been able to get sales in Topeka. For a commercial broadcaster, that's a non-factor. That might, however, be important for a noncommercial broadcaster as they typically pay by the head instead of cash-flow multiples. EMF wouldn't need 95.7 for K-Love, but it might be a good fit for Air 1. Air 1 is currently on an HD subchannel of KCFX and the 107.9 translator, which would seem to cover many of the areas of the metro that 95.7 does not. It has no signal in Topeka.
Union Broadcasting would also like to get an FM for WHB, especially given the nighttime signal issues in Johnson County for 810. 95.7 would be a good fit for Union if the price was right. Plus, it wouldn't compete with much of anything Cumulus is doing now and has worked with Cumulus before producing a Chiefs show that was aired on WHB and The Fox.
Rimshot signals always present this dilemma and opportunity. I wish in Des Moines that iHeart would sell KCYZ Ames and purchase the new VCY signal going on 99.5 (KVDI). It’s a brand new 50kw core metro signal that would be a huge improvement over a 25kw rimshot from Ames.
Seems 95.7 is the station that could go both ways but doesn’t do the greatest job of making real KC metro money.
Seems 95.7 is the station that could go both ways but doesn’t do the greatest job of making real KC metro money.
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Several things.
On a commercial basis, Kansas City and Topeka are entirely separate markets. No one local is going to sell into both. Lawrence is harder to read. What historically has tended to happen is that Lawrence businesses advertise on Kansas City stations to reach tap into that audience, and not the other way around. In any event, Lawrence has its own separate identity, largely centered on the University of Kansas. It is a true college town and that alters the dynamics of the markets.
As for the current horse-race speculation regarding contribution-based formats: if we're going to go there (why do I hear The Stranglers' "Uptown" playing in my head while I type this?) we can consider a whole range of possibilities:
1. EMF, as an Air1 outlet - discussed already upthread.
2. This one makes me want to pitch my cookies: VCY, which has more money than God and seems determined to be unavoidable.
3. A much happier option: Public Television 19, as a fill-in and extender for KTBG, whose AAA format could probably pick up some nice change in Johnson County and in Lawrence, and whose signal today barely reaches the parts of Kansas City where it would be likely to get the most support.
4. KU, which could then dump its remaining classical programming on the 95.7 signal and make Kansas Public Radio totally news and talk, which brings in more money than classical does.
5. UMKC, as a fill-in and extender for KWJC (Kansas City Classical), to tap into the money sloshing around Johnson County. They may not be able to own property in another state, though. Not sure - the university is chartered under the Missouri Constitution, which the university system has tended to interpret as allowing it to do whatever it wants, and then we get years of court cases that the university system ultimately loses.
6. One of the nonprofit jazz groups in Kansas City, for a jazz-formatted station.
Have at it, folks.
On a commercial basis, Kansas City and Topeka are entirely separate markets. No one local is going to sell into both. Lawrence is harder to read. What historically has tended to happen is that Lawrence businesses advertise on Kansas City stations to reach tap into that audience, and not the other way around. In any event, Lawrence has its own separate identity, largely centered on the University of Kansas. It is a true college town and that alters the dynamics of the markets.
As for the current horse-race speculation regarding contribution-based formats: if we're going to go there (why do I hear The Stranglers' "Uptown" playing in my head while I type this?) we can consider a whole range of possibilities:
1. EMF, as an Air1 outlet - discussed already upthread.
2. This one makes me want to pitch my cookies: VCY, which has more money than God and seems determined to be unavoidable.
3. A much happier option: Public Television 19, as a fill-in and extender for KTBG, whose AAA format could probably pick up some nice change in Johnson County and in Lawrence, and whose signal today barely reaches the parts of Kansas City where it would be likely to get the most support.
4. KU, which could then dump its remaining classical programming on the 95.7 signal and make Kansas Public Radio totally news and talk, which brings in more money than classical does.
5. UMKC, as a fill-in and extender for KWJC (Kansas City Classical), to tap into the money sloshing around Johnson County. They may not be able to own property in another state, though. Not sure - the university is chartered under the Missouri Constitution, which the university system has tended to interpret as allowing it to do whatever it wants, and then we get years of court cases that the university system ultimately loses.
6. One of the nonprofit jazz groups in Kansas City, for a jazz-formatted station.
Have at it, folks.
Radio One has two class C signals in Houston that each cover different sides of the market that have been a simulcast for years (106.9/107.5 The Eagle). Both signals overlap significantly but hit different edges of the market.
95.7 and 107.3 seem to be a similar situation, so a simulcast wouldn’t be extremely wild although that doesn’t look likely.
95.7 and 107.3 seem to be a similar situation, so a simulcast wouldn’t be extremely wild although that doesn’t look likely.
Kansas City is smaller, both in population and especially geographically.
What about the Christian Rhythmic CHR "Boost" based in St. Louis? They seem to do well in St. Louis, Chicago and Minneapolis, etc. They seemed to be in expansion mode there for a while and it seems like KC/Lawrence might take to it fairly well.
I'm not familiar with them but, sure, add it to the bingo card.
Have stations ever just ceased operations altogether?
It happens from time-to-time. One example near you would be the original 100.7, now known as KSHQ. KBZI was owned by AMI, which owns KKOW AM/FM, and AMI took the station dark and turned its license in when it bought the Petracom properties. Buying those properties put it over the ownership limits, and it decided to just get rid of the station rather than put it into trust and search for another buyer. It was originally going to put the KBZI format and calls on KJML 107.1 but ultimately changed its mind and kept the rock format on 107.1.
Won't happen here, though. 95.7 is worth way too much money to just take the station dark and turn in the license. Even on stick value alone, it's worth several million, and Cumulus isn't under the gun to divest anything.
Having grown up in Joplin for a time, I know AMI is a smaller town owner. More major markets it might not happen. Maybe they will simulcast 710 (also 103.7) on there, and by going away just a radically different format and move 103.7 to something different. Or sell it to EMF.
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Loud is mostly a Rhythmic format with a Hip-Hop lean.
Forwards to Cumulusmedia.com and was registered in the same way as power1051kc.com and 1073thevibe.com
loud1037.com does not seem to fit the same pattern.
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Not to dive into a small market tangent, but I remember the sale and the news of 100.7 going dark and it was because of ownership caps and such. But then AMI later would go and buy 99.1 KSEK-FM while still owning all the other stations. THAT made me scratch my head about the 100.7 forfeiture.
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