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Curious

To address or add on to Little Noy Blue ...

Looking back, I've worked very few places where there was any real sense of history or pride. At one heritage CHR I mentioned that I hoped someone was archiving photos, airchecks, playlists, etc. I recall the blank looks I received. Companies like Harley know the value of culture. The new Harley museum is excellent and Harley customers are true brand partisans. We don't have that in radio. For decades we've had owners who flipped formats and blew staffs out at the slightest hint of a challenge or numbers slip. We've never thought more than maybe a quarter ahead, let alone years. We allowed wunderkinds (Hi Randy Michaels) to come in and ride roughshod over this great industry. It's incredible we've even lasted this long.

It should be a hope that the radio mavens who head up big chains take a cue from Obama and start looking for contrary opinions. Maybe ask an actual DJ, newsman or promotions staffer their opinions. Not all the answers are to be found in the flippin' conference room,
 
WKomm said:
To address or add on to Little Noy Blue ...

Looking back, I've worked very few places where there was any real sense of history or pride. At one heritage CHR I mentioned that I hoped someone was archiving photos, airchecks, playlists, etc. I recall the blank looks I received. Companies like Harley know the value of culture. The new Harley museum is excellent and Harley customers are true brand partisans. We don't have that in radio. For decades we've had owners who flipped formats and blew staffs out at the slightest hint of a challenge or numbers slip. We've never thought more than maybe a quarter ahead, let alone years. We allowed wunderkinds (Hi Randy Michaels) to come in and ride roughshod over this great industry. It's incredible we've even lasted this long.

It should be a hope that the radio mavens who head up big chains take a cue from Obama and start looking for contrary opinions. Maybe ask an actual DJ, newsman or promotions staffer their opinions. Not all the answers are to be found in the flippin' conference room,
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Gee, so guys like you that obsess about some local talk show host know more than the "radio mavens" eh? Hmm...maybe while you're running the board this weekend, E-mail Sumner Redstone, Mark Mayes, or David Field all about your worldly experience and ideas to save broadcasting. Make sure you include some of Bong's thoughts as well. It could be great fodder at this years holiday party. What's that?? The holiday party was cancelled to save money??
 
TVradioguru said:
WKomm said:
To address or add on to Little Noy Blue ...

Looking back, I've worked very few places where there was any real sense of history or pride. At one heritage CHR I mentioned that I hoped someone was archiving photos, airchecks, playlists, etc. I recall the blank looks I received. Companies like Harley know the value of culture. The new Harley museum is excellent and Harley customers are true brand partisans. We don't have that in radio. For decades we've had owners who flipped formats and blew staffs out at the slightest hint of a challenge or numbers slip. We've never thought more than maybe a quarter ahead, let alone years. We allowed wunderkinds (Hi Randy Michaels) to come in and ride roughshod over this great industry. It's incredible we've even lasted this long.

It should be a hope that the radio mavens who head up big chains take a cue from Obama and start looking for contrary opinions. Maybe ask an actual DJ, newsman or promotions staffer their opinions. Not all the answers are to be found in the flippin' conference room,
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Gee, so guys like you that obsess about some local talk show host know more than the "radio mavens" eh? Hmm...maybe while you're running the board this weekend, E-mail Sumner Redstone, Mark Mayes, or David Field all about your worldly experience and ideas to save broadcasting. Make sure you include some of Bong's thoughts as well. It could be great fodder at this years holiday party. What's that?? The holiday party was cancelled to save money??
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No, DON'T bring my ideas up...I want this industry to SELF-DESTRUCT by all it's so-called "industry experts" or "professionals". Because NOTHING I would remotely suggest could lead to the abysmal failure the people in charge of it have brought on it while discrediting me. Time have proven that again and again.....

So just keep f--king it all up, Bush-style. I don't need to say or do a thing. Just remember people, I TOLD YOU SO....
 
Actually, some of the posters here could probably give a few pointers to the David Fields and Mark Mays of the world.

These guys call themselves corporate leaders, so why aren't they judged on performance? Look at the Entercom stock price. It's below a dollar fercrisakes!

Or look at Citadel or Salem. Both below a dollar.

Look at Westwood One. Delisted.

These "corporate leaders'' fought for and won consolodation. They claimed that was the answer.

And what is the result: fewer local shows; fewer local newscasts; fewer local personalities; fewer jobs.

But the corporate "leaders" still have their jobs and not one has had to sell his house or move to another market or find a job outside the industry. They are the only ones in the business who are NOT accountable.
 
Much of what is happening is part of a dramatic change in media. It is called the Internet. Combine that with the short term game of making money on Wall Street and you have the perfect storm for the near total destruction of the business model for Radio, Records, and Newspapers.

What is sad is the complete lack of participation in the emerging opportunities by existing radio companies.
 
So then regarding ownership would it be easier and cheaper and could radio profit better on it's own (one station per market)? I mean since the bottom line is so low, it seems as though the only option is to go back to owning and operating market by market. I've recently seen first hand a successful market in a cluster has to funnel all of it's meager funds to the lower functioning markets making them have to cutback to fund them (everyone has seen this). It is almost worse to own in several markets because if you are enjoying success in one and the other starts to slip....you are guaranteed to cutback and then slip in your successful market.

Rock bottom economy/ad money=rock bottom radio station prices....anyone got a checkbook?

Someone told me about a sales staff all fired and advertisers doing buy's online.

Flip side though is someday it will hopefully go back to the old glory days (whenever they were)..... ;)
 
Ivy said:
So then regarding ownership would it be easier and cheaper and could radio profit better on it's own (one station per market)? I mean since the bottom line is so low, it seems as though the only option is to go back to owning and operating market by market. I've recently seen first hand a successful market in a cluster has to funnel all of it's meager funds to the lower functioning markets making them have to cutback to fund them (everyone has seen this). It is almost worse to own in several markets because if you are enjoying success in one and the other starts to slip....you are guaranteed to cutback and then slip in your successful market.

Rock bottom economy/ad money=rock bottom radio station prices....anyone got a checkbook?

Someone told me about a sales staff all fired and advertisers doing buy's online.

Flip side though is someday it will hopefully go back to the old glory days (whenever they were)..... ;)
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Giving your clients the ability to buy spots on line is an interesting idea. I doubt you could replace AE's entirely, but maybe purchasing on-line with discounts could give local advertisers the incentive to get into radio or smaller market TV.

I firmly believe that history is repeating itself.. Back in the early 1940's during the dawn of electronic media, the majority of radio stations were owned by large publicly traded companies which tried to run them like a manufacturing business. Eventually the large companies started divesting their stations to local and regional business people. Granted some were start-ups, but locally owned radio stations began to flourish.

As station values continue in free-fall, there will be some good opportunities for someone who has cash to buy radio or TV. At least for the time being, financing a radio deal is out of the question.
 
TVradioguru said:
Giving your clients the ability to buy spots on line is an interesting idea. I doubt you could replace AE's entirely, but maybe purchasing on-line with discounts could give local advertisers the incentive to get into radio or smaller market TV.
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There are companies that offer that...CBS owns one. But I notice usually in these new launches there is technology crew ... and a radio crew and often the two are not cross-bred very well. If your expectation is dollar-a-hollar quality, this solution works. There's also the Google remnant model out there to fill stopsets.

As you may imagine, however, it doesn't solve the problem of getting the most $$ for an avail....and sometimes the avail is worth more if you turn it into a music sweep from time-to-time (i.e. give the listeners a break from 20 units/hour by going to 10 if you only SOLD 10!!)
 
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