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Curtains For "All My Children"?

DToTheJ said:
Rumor has it that the long-running soap opera is literally going the way of "Guiding Light," slated to be replaced by a talk show this fall:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/ent...211-all-my-children-next-soap-opera-axed-ncx#
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Interesting...I'd heard that "OneLife to Live" was the lower rated show but the network won't be able to ignore under a half-million viewers among women 18-49.

I'm sure this will all be a moot point, though, in ten or 15 years when all soaps will have been cancelled.
 
But which one...AMC or OLTL...does better budget wise? Therein lies the answer to where something new could appear.
 
I read that two consecutive weeks of being the lowest-rated soap is the straw that broke Erica Kane's back.
 
ahhh, it seems like just yesterday we had televangelists warning us that soaps were going to become racier and racier,
eventually featuring full-frontal nudity and graphic sex, further destroying the moral fiber of America.

So much for attempts at prognostication in this business.
 
After "GL" and "ATWT" were canceled I remember someone on this
board saying that in five years there will be only three soaps left:
"Y&R," "B&B," and "GH" (although I think "Days Of Our Lives" might
still be around if it can maintain its demographics). I, too, thought
"One Life To Live" would go before "All My Children," but I'm also
convinced that neither will be around in the next 18 months to two
years.
 
Interesting point:

As soaps gradually vanish, do the remaining soaps gain ratings?
Do the die hard soap fans crawl their interest into another soap or do they simply watch the talk show replacement???
 
I don't know if there have been noticeable ratings gains for
"One Life To Live" and "General Hospital" since "As The World
Turns" and "Guiding Light" went off, but I do know that CBS
seems to be happy with the ratings for "The Talk" and "Let's
Make A Deal" (in "Deal"'s case it seems to do better on the
morning stations, and I'll admit it's a good tandem with "The
Price Is Right" on stations that air "Deal" at 10 AM ET, especially
since many of the pricing games on "Price" were inspired by games
on "Deal").

(Side note: as a "GL" fan, though, I don't know why I'm not watching "One Life
To Live," given that several former "GL" cast members are on "OLTL,"
such as Kim Zimmer, Kassie De Paiva, and Jerry Ver Dorn (although I
absolutely cannot buy him as Clint Buchanan after all the years he played
the completely-different, more urban, and not-quite-as-macho Ross Marler on "GL")).
 
Didn't ABC make a big deal about airing AMC in HD and moving it to LA a few years ago? If AMC goes off air, does OLTL move to LA and cease ABC daytime drama operations in NY? It seems more efficient to have both shows (if only 2 survive) running out of the same studio.
 
Yeziknoradio said:
As soaps gradually vanish, do the remaining soaps gain ratings?
Do the die hard soap fans crawl their interest into another soap or do they simply watch the talk show replacement???
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The six remaining soaps had 1 million fewer total viewers last week compared to the year-ago period. This is despite ATWT ending in September, 2010.

The significant effect here is the incredible fall-off of Days, down 20% from last year.
 
Interesting, considering that NBC recently renewed "Days"
through 2013, with an option to go on to 2014. The only
thing keeping it on the air, as I understand it, is that it has
the youngest demographics of any of the six remaining soaps.
So I still don't think either it or "General Hospital" is in danger
of cancellation, and certainly not the two remaining CBS soaps.
I think it was homerjay who said that if and when "Young And
The Restless" goes, that will be the end of soaps on daytime
television.

I wonder what would happen to the soaps' ratings if we scheduled
them in late afternoon/early evening, as they do in the UK and Mexico?
 
bpatrick said:
...I think it was homerjay who said that if and when "Young And The Restless" goes, that will be the end of soaps on daytime television...
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... and the start of WRAL in Raleigh thinking about what to put on the air at 4 PM every day!
 
Cancelling AMC would free the 1pm Eastern time. ABC could be the alternate choice over the CBS soap and Days of Our Lives at that hour.

If OLTL was cancelled instead, ABC would likely have to move GH an hour earlier (which would hurt GH's audiences).

Scheduling can give a slight advantage for OLTL staying and AMC being cancelled between the two (if ABC had to decide to cut one). Perhaps Kelly Ripa could go back to becoming a regular on AMC to boost AMC's ratings.
 
ding12 said:
Cancelling AMC would free the 1pm Eastern time. ABC could be the alternate choice over the CBS soap and Days of Our Lives at that hour.
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Or with ABC affiliates in the Central Time Zone--could we see many of them who have midday (11AM CST or 11:30) newscasts decide to move their news to Noon if AMC says adieu?
 
Why would ABC spend the $$$$$ to move AMC to LA from NYC and then cancel it? If they really wanted to ax the show, they shouldn't have uprooted the cast/crew/production first.

If AMC does go, I wonder what the stations that carry the show off-pattern/earlier (like WFAA/8 does before their noon news and up against Y&R; AMC is probably the only show that made any ratings headway up against Y&R in DFW) would do?
 
Depends on how ABC does with the hour. The affiliates may well be able to plug the new show...and the main scenario seems to be they will keep control of the hour...right where AMC resides now.
 
This also coincides with the cancelling of SOAPnet (January 2012). ABC could then move the rebroadcasts of its own shows GH and OLTL to ABC Family after 'The 700 Club' (12am, 1am) which is pretty much dead space anyways and ABC would just have to deal with promoting and cross-promoting 2 soaps rather than 3. Eventually OLTL will be cancelled and maybe GH down the road. 'Bev. Hills 90210', 'One Tree Hill', 'The OC', 'The Gilmore Girls' reruns could all easily go to ABC Family or another cable network easily.

Back on the ABC owned stations (what ABC cares about), it gives more options. These stations can air newscasts and local AM shows (which I hope they do) that are cheaper to produce and can likely be #1 in their slots like how they did in the past.

Other talk shows can be moved around, such as Rachael Ray can move to 1pm, or stay in place. I'm not sure what ABC or ABC syndicated has in mind for Kelly Ripa as far as getting a new co-host, or if ABC or its syndicated arm has another new talk show host or concept in mind.

Ricki Lake has interest in returning to talk. I also wonder if Montel Williams would be interested again, as he is guest appearing on Dr. Oz now.
 
The reference to being replaced by a talker is pretty straightforward. It doesn't free up an hour for affiliates.
 
Just found this:::::

http://soapcentral.com/amc/news/2011/0323-cancellation.php

AMC exec producer Julie Hanan Carruthers was told this week (and subsequently told the show's cast) by higher-ups that AMC is not in current danger of cancellation. But several actors from the show have since hit Twitter and other online sites to tell viewers of the need to let the network bigwigs know how they feel about AMC... a phone number is listed in the article for fans to call ABC. Of course, Brian Frons, the bigmouth President of ABC Daytime, had to remind us that production costs are still going up. Thanx for the update, Brian ::)
 
easttxtv said:
Why would ABC spend the $$$$$ to move AMC to LA from NYC and then cancel it? If they really wanted to ax the show, they shouldn't have uprooted the cast/crew/production first.

If AMC does go, I wonder what the stations that carry the show off-pattern/earlier (like WFAA/8 does before their noon news and up against Y&R; AMC is probably the only show that made any ratings headway up against Y&R in DFW) would do?
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I can't see those ABC o&os that do an 11 AM newscast, like KABC, moving the news to noon; if a talker replaced "AMC" I feel certain ABC7 and its sister o&os in the Central and Pacific time zones would put the new show at 12 and keep everything else in place.

Even though it's a day behind, "AMC" has a half-hour's head start on "Y&R" in Dallas (maybe that's why WFAA carries it at 11 AM); KTVT carries "Jeopardy!" at 11 AM and "Y&R" at 11:30. If ABC replaces "AMC" I think Ch. 8 would start out carrying the new show at 11, then see how it fares against "Y&R" before making any moves (as it is, its noon news is up against the second half of "Y&R" and all of "B&B").
 
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