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CW Daytime, 2013-2014

I assume at this point the network and affiliates don't care about the 3pm hour, where Dr. Phil and the court shows make putting anything on themselves silly.

But it looks like it's Bill Cunningham again next year; there looking for sucke...ahem, people to fill their show's topics still. I'm surprised it gets any viewership and that the CW has never released any numbers for it makes it look like that the Bill people pretty much buy the hour for a year like an infomercial and get to claim they're on a network with nationwide distribution without having to hassle with affiliates and the like.
 
crackedscreen said:
Far as I know CW outsources their daytime block to Tribune, which produces Bill Cunningham.

Not all Tribune stations have CW. IN the few markets where they don't have CW, their competitor does. For the first official season, it was only on Tribune stations. For season 2, it moved to CW daytime, & would be on CW stations, regardless of the owner of the CW affiliate station. So in Philadelphia for example, WPHL carried Bill Cunningham for the first season (a Tribune station), but moved to WPSG (CBS O&O) when it became a CW Daytime show. For markets like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, & Indianapolis, Tribune is affiliated with CW, & not affected by the show moving to CW Daytime. In Chicago, WGN-TV has Bill Cunningham at 2pm, while they have Maury repeats at 3pm.
 
Dave said:
crackedscreen said:
Far as I know CW outsources their daytime block to Tribune, which produces Bill Cunningham.

Not all Tribune stations have CW. IN the few markets where they don't have CW, their competitor does. For the first official season, it was only on Tribune stations. For season 2, it moved to CW daytime, & would be on CW stations, regardless of the owner of the CW affiliate station. So in Philadelphia for example, WPHL carried Bill Cunningham for the first season (a Tribune station), but moved to WPSG (CBS O&O) when it became a CW Daytime show. For markets like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, & Indianapolis, Tribune is affiliated with CW, & not affected by the show moving to CW Daytime. In Chicago, WGN-TV has Bill Cunningham at 2pm, while they have Maury repeats at 3pm.

What I meant was Tribune produces the show for CW.
 
And for markets with Tribune-owned stns, it's the THIRD season. Bill Cunningham was only on Tribune-owned stations during the 1st season. (KCPQ aired it at 11AM) before it moved to CW.

-crainbebo
 
The CW should just cancel Bill and give the 3pm hour back to its affiliates. There are enough shows like Bill on tv. There already is Muary, Trisha, Jerry, Steve Wilkos, Jeremy Kyle, and of course Bill. The least dramatic of those show Jeremy Kyle was recently canceled and, there are two new shows ready to take his place in the fall. The new shows will be Paternity Court and The Test. The loss of Bill would not kill the CW it probably hurts them. They have good decent programming on in the primetime and Bill just looks like trash compared to it. This would allow there affiliates to put other higher quality programing on in the day, or even for the CW to get a better talk show.
 
How about this:

The CW expands it's daytime block to two hours each weekday, but the daytime lineup would be repeats of the previous evening's CW prime-time lineup (with Mondays being repeats of the previous Friday's prime-time programming).

It would be cheap, and might draw more viewers than the daytime block they have now.

And if it's aired between 3 and 5 P.M. (or between 4 and 6 P.M.) local time in each time zone, it might draw many young female students home from school for the day.
 
Morgan Wick said:
Isn't the daytime block really a vestige of UPN's old kids block? It's incredible it's survived this long.

No, it's a vestige of the old Daytime WB block, which itself descended from Kids' WB. UPN had no daytime programming from the end of their Disney One Too deal in 2003 till the end of UPN itself in 2006.

Sometimes things can survive for so long because they're getting ignored by the rest of the world. Easier to do their own thing that way, without interference.

neomedia said:
The CW should just cancel Bill and give the 3pm hour back to its affiliates. There are enough shows like Bill on tv. There already is Muary, Trisha, Jerry, Steve Wilkos, Jeremy Kyle, and of course Bill. The least dramatic of those show Jeremy Kyle was recently canceled and, there are two new shows ready to take his place in the fall. The new shows will be Paternity Court and The Test. The loss of Bill would not kill the CW it probably hurts them. They have good decent programming on in the primetime and Bill just looks like trash compared to it. This would allow there affiliates to put other higher quality programing on in the day, or even for the CW to get a better talk show.

Hahaha, that's a good one. I can just see it now. CW executives are beside themselves that Bill Cunningham is singlehandedly dragging their network into the abyss, so the only logical solution is to renew his program. However, if, by "higher quality programming," you mean The 700 Club, an hour of infomercials, or a double run of Springer, then I'm with you on this.
 
I am not saying he is destroying the network but compared to their primetime shows it just is not a very good show, it is like a cheap mix of Jerry Springer and Dr. Phil. They should acquire a better show or produce a whole new show.
 
neomedia said:
I am not saying he is destroying the network but compared to their primetime shows it just is not a very good show, it is like a cheap mix of Jerry Springer and Dr. Phil. They should acquire a better show or produce a whole new show.

I'm saying that if you drop Bill Cunningham for something else, chances are you won't get anything "better." You'll just get more of the same - something derivative of Jerry Springer, Dr. Phil, or Judge Judy.
 
That is why I say give it back to the affiliates. I think that that way the stations can do sitcoms or whatever they want.
 
Joseph_Gallant said:
How about this:

The CW expands it's daytime block to two hours each weekday, but the daytime lineup would be repeats of the previous evening's CW prime-time lineup (with Mondays being repeats of the previous Friday's prime-time programming).

It would be cheap, and might draw more viewers than the daytime block they have now.

At this point the CW is content with knowing their viewers, if they miss their shows know how to get to their website or Hulu to watch their episodes. Over the years they've pretty much decided to kill reruns and go with original content through most of the year. And there's no way affiliates give back an hour of time for repeats; the way they're being treated with Cunningham right now most of them are probably rooting for him to get a 0.0 through the season so they get the time back.
 
neomedia said:
That is why I say give it back to the affiliates. I think that that way the stations can do sitcoms or whatever they want.

And if they give the timeslot back to their affiliates, those affiliates will just plug in an awful courtroom/talk show repeat, an awful first-run courtroom/talk show, or infomercials. They won't use the time for anything exciting and/or innovative. They'll just be replacing useless network programming with useless syndicated programming.
 
Brother said:
neomedia said:
That is why I say give it back to the affiliates. I think that that way the stations can do sitcoms or whatever they want.

And if they give the timeslot back to their affiliates, those affiliates will just plug in an awful courtroom/talk show repeat, an awful first-run courtroom/talk show, or infomercials. They won't use the time for anything exciting and/or innovative. They'll just be replacing useless network programming with useless syndicated programming.
I think neo is trying to draw a distinction between levels of "useless syndicated programming", whereby reruns > "awful courtroom/talk shows" and infomercials.
 
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