Re: To put this ALL in perspective
Anyone who still uses, or has a braincell dedicated to, the word "coon", and actually SAYS IT onair...TWICE...deserves what he got. You say it once, and immediately apologize, go to break, and cry. Thats one thing. But he REPEATED HIMSELF for all of those african-americans who are hard of hearing. Wow.
Perfect example of someone working around a stupid comment...Shepard Smith on Fox News, seen
here.
Didn't say it a second time. Stuttered around it. Apologized for it. I hate Fox News, but it's funny to watch them blush. Haha...
In other words, I agree with you Nik.
> > > D&C are lucky they still have a job when they got in
> > trouble
> > > with the race thing. Look what happen in St. Louis (
> > > Billboard report ) .
> > >
> > >
> > > A St. Louis talk show host has been sacked for using a
> > > racial epithet while talking about secretary of state
> > > Condoleezza Rice.
> > >
> > > The firing occurred after CH Holdings’ news talk and
> > sports
> > > KTRS (the Big 550) late morning talker Dave Lenihan, who
>
> > had
> > > been at the station for less than two weeks, used the
> word
> >
> > > "coon" in an otherwise positive on-air discussion of
> Rice.
> >
> > >
> > > During the discussion, Lenihan suggested that Rice
> should
> > > replace retiring National Football League commissioner
> > Paul
> > > Tagliabue, which is reportedly a job Rice has shown past
>
> > > interest in.
> > >
> > > "She's been chancellor of Stanford," Lenihan said.
> "She’s
> > > just got a patent resume, of somebody that’s got such
> > > serious skill. She loves football. She's
> African-American,
> >
> > > which would kind of be a big coon. A big coon. Oh my
> God.
> > I
> > > am totally, totally, totally, totally, totally sorry for
>
> > > that."
> > >
> > > He said he had meant to say "coup."
> > >
> > > Lenihan apologized immediately after making what he said
>
> > was
> > > a slip of the tongue. While station GM Tim Dorsey agreed
>
> > the
> > > remark was accidental, he said it was nonetheless
> > > "unacceptable, reprehensible and unforgivable."
> > >
> > > Twenty minutes after the utterance, Dorsey went on the
> air
> >
> > > to apologize to Rice and KTRS listeners, a number of
> whom
> > > had called to complain.
> > >
> > > "There can be no excuse for what was said," Dorsey said.
>
> > > "Dave Lenihan has been let go. ... There is enough hate.
>
> > We
> > > certainly are not going to fan those flames."
> > >
> > > "It was my dream job," Lenihan later told the St. Louis
> > > Post-Dispatch. "Ratings were going well. It kind of
> > stinks."
> > >
> >
> > If he mis-spoke - he shouldn't have been fired. People
> are
> > much too sensitive these days - and because of knee jerk
> > reactions - thus guy lost his job and might be labeled as
> a
> > "racest" for the rest of his career in Radio.
> >
> > The guy immediatly appoligized - the station was stupid to
>
> > fire him.
> >
> > Roach
> >
> Yeah well Roach I can tell you one thing: Mis-peaking is one
> thing but to say it twice is a little more than that and he
> knew immediately that he had stepped on his you know what
> which is why he profusely apologized. And why is it that
> people always seem to misspeak in such a way? it's a very
> racially charged thing to say it was a real "coon" as
> opposed to ANY other word that sounded slightly like "coup"
> that he could have accidentally slipped and used, I doubt he
> meant to say "coon"(because that's just asking to be fired)
> it was subconscious slip of the tongue which is what makes
> it tougher to swallow becuase yeah he misspoke but that was
> a subconscious Freudian slip, I dont know Im not in the
> man's head but I have heard that said before ("people are
> much too sensitive these days") and usually what they mean
> is not that people are too sensitive they really mean
> minorities are too sensitive when it comes to such things,
> blacks, gays, hispanics, jews, etc. All I can offer you by
> way of perspective is this: Assuming that you are a white
> male you dont have to be so "sensitive" ever becuase
> whenever someone says something negative about you it's
> usually just directed at you personally as a result of a
> personal feeling about you, there is usually not a
> generalized bias attatched to it. More so you never have to
> question the agenda of someone who insults you directly,
> it's actually the luxury of being the majority rather than
> aminority. People take it for granted because they know
> nothing else, and dont misundertsand; as someone who is
> pretty laid back in terms of the PC thing there are so many
> times when I know something is racist or what have you and
> I have said nothing but it would never strike someone of the
> majority that way because they just dont understand it as
> such, I think most people are very uncomfortable
> acknowedging that something might be racist in nature so
> they are often only willing to acknowledge the most obvious
> expression (the "N" word) as racism, a lot of the time
> becuasee they dont want to see themselves or their friends
> and those they respect as having those sort of thoughts, and
> then there are those who just wont acknowledge it because
> they think that minorities think that EVERYTHING is racist,
> so they're callously de sensitized to the actual meaning of
> what racism is and entails because theyt're tired of hearing
> about it.. becauuse your perspective is that of the
> majority, you dont UNDERSTAND and think "whatever, how is
> THAT racist"? just becauuse you dont understand (or see it
> as such) it does not mean that it is not.
>
> Ill give you an example: over the course of my career doing
> what I had done and trying to appeal to males and in some
> senses playing a character on air, i have had a few less
> enlightened women accuse me of being sexist at times, Im the
> furthest thing from sexist you'll ever meet, truust me.
> HOWEVER Im not a member of the group in question ( women) so
> if a woman takes something that i have said as sexist, I
> cant intelligently say "that wasnt sexist it's just you"
> because Im not a member of that group in question, so my
> perspective is not the same as hers, Im in no position to
> say "that was not sexist". Look if she took it that way and
> she says it's sexist, it was sexist, end of story, I as a
> broadcaster/person have to accept that. THE BEST I CAN DO IS
> JUST SAY "Look it was not my INTENTION to be sexist and if
> you say it was then I am sorry" and then any woman who has
> spent more than 30 seconds speaking to me realizes that Im
> not sexist at all.
>
>
> I guess you could say it comes down to if you dont walk in
> the shoes you're in no position to comment on what another
> group whose ethnic experience is completely different than
> yours should consider 'racist" etc. My opinion? was the guy
> who referred to Conde Rice using the word "coon" a "racist"
> per se?......probably..... to the same degree that many
> people are, you dont have to be ready to light a cross on
> someone's lawn to be racist, if you're on air and dealing
> with such topics you cant "mi-speak" like that, period, is
> it fair? no, but that's the deal, you cant mis-speak. If
> you're John Dennis you cant refer to minority metco kid's as
> "gorillas" knowing that blacks and browns have been likened
> to apes and monkeys by whites who tried to describe them as
> sub human since the beginning of time, sorry you cant do
> tthat and you shold be damned grateful if you do and you get
> away with it.
>
> When i was stil on BCn I can tell you the sensitivity goes
> both ways, you would not believe the things that were so
> benign that my 99% white auudience would complain about that
> i had said, I mean things that some thought "who is this
> black man to talk about such and such" I mean things that
> you would just look at and say " no way, how can you be
> serious" so trust me the sensitivity goes both ways. I had
> caught hell around ST Patty's day in Irish Boston for saying
> some of the same things about it being amateur hour that
> many of my white contemporary's have said about that day and
> it's activities......."Nik Carter was saying tthat te Irish
> are all drunks, he's is anti irish" which is the most
> absurd thing you could say especially when I was going out
> with an Irish woman named Omalley, (I mean that's about as
> Irish as it gets right?) so people sometimes took
> offense....why? becuase Im obviously not irish and it was
> easy to tell because of my skin tone? Ive said things that
> white guys I know have said almost word for word and there
> was no dust up. Point being it swings both ways, but you're
> priviledged because you'll never have to think about suuch
> things like "what did that comment REAAALLLY mean"? so as a
> result you're less sensitive to such comments, doesnt make
> you a bad guy Im sure you're a good dude at heart but it's
> your priviledge to be blissfully ignorant in that
> regard.............. That doesnt mean that all those pesky
> minorities are too sensitive,.........EXCEPT THE DAMNED
> WHINEY GAYS!.........KIDDING, kidding!
>
> LOL
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