D.J. Longevity in this market

[fccfight]

What intangible keeps audiences listening to Loren & Wally,
Dale Dorman, Matty In The Morning, while some on-air personalities
are shown the door after only 18 months?

Last night Boston Emissions was on (because the car radio had been
set to hear The Patriots in the afternoon). Is Shred still on the
air? I counted 12-14 "uh", "uh", "uh" within a two minute span.
It sounded like Howie Carr's "Wizard Of Uh's" contest. What gives?

If it wasn't Shred and was a college jock filling in - this is not
the way to keep an audience after The Patriots get the station switched
from the other pre-sets.

The audience used to be a good barometer - but it seems more and more
the program directors play favorites and ratings aren't always the
tool they use to decide who is going to fit into any one slot.

Though I don't like Jay Severin, you've got to acknowledge he left with his
head held high - not pushed out the door with nowhere to go. He's created some
kind of brand "name" recognition- and because the standards are so low, there's so much room for opportunity.

Have the Corporations set their sites so low - and has the audience
given up on wanting quality on-air talent?

 

[WMC2005]

> What intangible keeps audiences listening to Loren & Wally,
> Dale Dorman, Matty In The Morning, while some on-air
> personalities
> are shown the door after only 18 months?

I am generally a Loren & Wally listener but Im not sure if I'm necessarily a fan of theirs or the music. I have listened to L&W off and on for years. They have survived on 105.7 through 25 years of format changes and cast changes. More recently, I have become less and less patient with Loren Owens as he struggles through a live commercial with all of his uhhh's and ahhh's.

Familiar friendly voices in the morning is probably what keeps listeners coming back.

I just ordered (via WROR.com) the new Loren & Wally 25th Anniversary CD which is supposed to include some of their best bits from the last 25 years. I'm looking forward to listening to it.

 

[NotoriousN-I-K]

>
> The audience used to be a good barometer - but it seems more
> and more
> the program directors play favorites and ratings aren't
> always the
> tool they use to decide who is going to fit into any one
> slot.

Oh really? I left afternoons after eight years with the second highest male numbers in my daypart, second only to WEEi in the year that the red sox won the world series the first time in 86 years. Yet you've often tried to claim on this very board, that I and others were "political hires" whatever the hell that means....Matty is a special case, as is Dale. Both heritage talents who have cultivated loyal followings. Loren and Wally I have not listened to enough to really render an opinion either way so I dont comment on those Im not completely familliar with.
>
> Though I don't like Jay Severin, you've got to acknowledge
> he left with his
> head held high - not pushed out the door with nowhere to go.
> He's created some
> kind of brand "name" recognition- and because the standards
> are so low, there's so much room for opportunity.

Agreed he's got his act down and it's something a little different, or different enough to stand out in the over crowded arena of conservative blowhards, Severin just has a thesarus and uses it but espouses most of the same ideology as the Oreilly's and Limbaugh's of the world.
>
> Have the Corporations set their sites so low - and has the
> audience
> given up on wanting quality on-air talent?

Well FCC there are those who do, and those who sit on the sidelines and critique (or bitch) about those who do.... why? becuase they mostly DONT. So before you criticize Shred who has been in the market well over 20 years and been at WBCN probably almost that long, remember: He is working at one of the largest heritage stations on American soil and he's getting paid for his insights into the local rock scene, he's not on the sidelines of public access where anyone can be regardless of pedigree just critique/bitching.
>

 

[billhicksghost]

NIK, I may be wrong about this, but didn't you spend a good chunk of your BCN stint doing 7-midnight. I seem to remember you at The Edge doing mornings in or around 96' and then nights at BCN and then afternoons and then Opie and Anthony took over in the afternoon and then you went back to afternoons after they got the boot from WNEW. How is that 8 years in a single time slot? I'm just trying to piece it together man not trying to be a d@#k.


> >
> > The audience used to be a good barometer - but it seems
> more
> > and more
> > the program directors play favorites and ratings aren't
> > always the
> > tool they use to decide who is going to fit into any one
> > slot.
>
> Oh really? I left afternoons after eight years with the
> second highest male numbers in my daypart, second only to
> WEEi in the year that the red sox won the world series the
> first time in 86 years. Yet you've often tried to claim on
> this very board, that I and others were "political hires"
> whatever the hell that means....Matty is a special case, as
> is Dale. Both heritage talents who have cultivated loyal
> followings. Loren and Wally I have not listened to enough to
> really render an opinion either way so I dont comment on
> those Im not completely familliar with.
> >
> > Though I don't like Jay Severin, you've got to acknowledge
>
> > he left with his
> > head held high - not pushed out the door with nowhere to
> go.
> > He's created some
> > kind of brand "name" recognition- and because the
> standards
> > are so low, there's so much room for opportunity.
>
> Agreed he's got his act down and it's something a little
> different, or different enough to stand out in the over
> crowded arena of conservative blowhards, Severin just has a
> thesarus and uses it but espouses most of the same ideology
> as the Oreilly's and Limbaugh's of the world.
> >
> > Have the Corporations set their sites so low - and has the
>
> > audience
> > given up on wanting quality on-air talent?
>
> Well FCC there are those who do, and those who sit on the
> sidelines and critique (or bitch) about those who do....
> why? becuase they mostly DONT. So before you criticize Shred
> who has been in the market well over 20 years and been at
> WBCN probably almost that long, remember: He is working at
> one of the largest heritage stations on American soil and
> he's getting paid for his insights into the local rock
> scene, he's not on the sidelines of public access where
> anyone can be regardless of pedigree just critique/bitching.
>
> >
>

 

[NotoriousN-I-K]

> NIK, I may be wrong about this, but didn't you spend a good
> chunk of your BCN stint doing 7-midnight. I seem to remember
> you at The Edge doing mornings in or around 96' and then
> nights at BCN and then afternoons and then Opie and Anthony
> took over in the afternoon and then you went back to
> afternoons after they got the boot from WNEW. How is that 8
> years in a single time slot? I'm just trying to piece it
> together man not trying to be a d@#k.

No worries man, I was at the edge in Providence before BCN, in 1995. One year doing 7-11pm at BCn and then I moved to afternoons. O and A did afternoons for one year and I did mid days, so you are correct sir,I did afternoons for eight years with a one year break where I did mid days, that year is kind of a blur!..lol..... There is your clrification..........you busted me in an honest mistake (trying to "pad my resume"),........."and I would have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for you meddling kids"

Hope you get the bird flu ya bastard!...lol.
>
>
> > >
> > > The audience used to be a good barometer - but it seems
> > more
> > > and more
> > > the program directors play favorites and ratings aren't
> > > always the
> > > tool they use to decide who is going to fit into any one
>
> > > slot.
> >
> > Oh really? I left afternoons after eight years with the
> > second highest male numbers in my daypart, second only to
> > WEEi in the year that the red sox won the world series the
>
> > first time in 86 years. Yet you've often tried to claim on
>
> > this very board, that I and others were "political hires"
> > whatever the hell that means....Matty is a special case,
> as
> > is Dale. Both heritage talents who have cultivated loyal
> > followings. Loren and Wally I have not listened to enough
> to
> > really render an opinion either way so I dont comment on
> > those Im not completely familliar with.
> > >
> > > Though I don't like Jay Severin, you've got to
> acknowledge
> >
> > > he left with his
> > > head held high - not pushed out the door with nowhere to
>
> > go.
> > > He's created some
> > > kind of brand "name" recognition- and because the
> > standards
> > > are so low, there's so much room for opportunity.
> >
> > Agreed he's got his act down and it's something a little
> > different, or different enough to stand out in the over
> > crowded arena of conservative blowhards, Severin just has
> a
> > thesarus and uses it but espouses most of the same
> ideology
> > as the Oreilly's and Limbaugh's of the world.
> > >
> > > Have the Corporations set their sites so low - and has
> the
> >
> > > audience
> > > given up on wanting quality on-air talent?
> >
> > Well FCC there are those who do, and those who sit on the
>
> > sidelines and critique (or bitch) about those who do....
> > why? becuase they mostly DONT. So before you criticize
> Shred
> > who has been in the market well over 20 years and been at
> > WBCN probably almost that long, remember: He is working at
>
> > one of the largest heritage stations on American soil and
> > he's getting paid for his insights into the local rock
> > scene, he's not on the sidelines of public access where
> > anyone can be regardless of pedigree just
> critique/bitching.
> >
> > >
> >
>

 

[classicradionut]

Y'know Nik, I'm with ya all the way. Even I, though the modest moderator and radio guy in every market but the one I really WANT to work in (Boston)... get very tired of the children whining about why they aren't getting cut in on the action. I've been back in Mass about a week and a half and I'm WORKING ON IT... needless to say, you earned your place on the podium, as they say, so you can speak your mind all you want.

For you others 'on the fringe of public access (I love that line), quit whining and make a compelling demo, with a reason to make a PD want to hire you... then you can complain all you want.

Loren & Wally, Dale Dorman, Matty in the Morning... God Almighty! I listened to them when I was in HS.... and none of them have lost their touch, although their voices are a bit more raspy than years ago. Those three examples alone have more talent in their little pinky.... well, you get the picture! And, for that matter, if we could bring back Carl DeSuze, he could probably breathe new life into WBZ better than some new untested voice. It's not that newbies and younger folks are less talented, it's just that those folks who did it on the air a generation ago had the benefit of a different mindset of broadcasters, where REAL entertainment was someone who could crack a mic, in ANY format, and entertain without a lick of showprep if needed.

Someone try to tell me that the great Harvey Wharfield or John Garabedian wouldn't kick ass if given a time slot on any station today and told, 'do whatever you want within the format and we'll back ya'.

Some of it is the corporate mentality, to be sure. But much of it is air talent that gets it into their pointy little heads after 6 months on the air that they are a big star and deserve a raise, respect, etc.... no, sir, all those things are earned one show at a time. Or, to put it bluntly, 'you're only as good as your worst break'.

Nik, your comments are right on. Sure wish a few people would actually listen... unfortunately, much of the mentality on this board is that of my 15 year old son. He knows more than dad will ever know..... Off my soapbox now.

"and I would have
> gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for you meddling
> kids"

...PRICELESS!<P ID="signature">______________
</P>

 

[fccfight]

Knowing something about this market, it is interesting to see the so-called
"Professionals" complaining when they fail to get ratings, fail to build an audience, but love to take snipes at people.

Being in another field - and happy in that field - It is interesting when
radio professionals ask me to produce at a 50,000 watt station or help run a station (be they small AM stations, still, I had "the power") with so many
"professionals" out there who seemingly brag that they
can do a better job.

Radio is a hobby for me. For many on the board it is a hobby - and it is really sad to see the "professionals" gang up and denigrate a man's hard work - but, hey, if pros need to beat up on us hobbyists because they are so tired of rejection from the current crop of PDs and MDs, what does that say about them?

Public Access, which ClassicRadioNut just shamelessly attacked with a very transparent "read between the lines", is an important tool. Since many of my interviews are better done in a professional setting than on the telephone, I utilize that resource.

When Howie Carr taped an hour of his show and zapped it out to Public Access
(when Steven Dodge was at the helm of American Radio Systems after Dodge ran...a cable company???), didn't Howie get a bump in the ratings? It appears he was more popular when he used all tools available.

Steve West can dish it out - will he let a post stand that responds to his invective? Probably not - we're not allowed to criticize moderators, even though they take shameless swipes at posters.

Nik Carter had a good political ally. That person was sent packing, after way too many years harming the radio station he was supposed to oversee. Carter's
dirty talk to "bisexual" women (Nik refuses to call them lesbians) is not the kind of standard chatter that makes for good radio. It is denigrating (that word again). Howard Stern's silly talk is part of his charm - why would jocks want to follow someone else's lead when that someone does it better?

When DJs entertain, as Charles did, as Matty does, as Ken once did, they become part of the culture. They don't spend their time with us fans being insulting on this board.

There are fans of radio and we read this board. Now I have some real work to get back to, digital recordings and completion of an important book or two.

Cheers

FCC FIGHT!



> Y'know Nik, I'm with ya all the way. Even I, though the
> modest moderator and radio guy in every market but the one I
> really WANT to work in (Boston)... get very tired of the
> children whining about why they aren't getting cut in on the
> action. I've been back in Mass about a week and a half and
> I'm WORKING ON IT... needless to say, you earned your place
> on the podium, as they say, so you can speak your mind all
> you want.
>
> For you others 'on the fringe of public access (I love that
> line), quit whining and make a compelling demo, with a
> reason to make a PD want to hire you... then you can
> complain all you want.
>
> Loren & Wally, Dale Dorman, Matty in the Morning... God
> Almighty! I listened to them when I was in HS.... and none
> of them have lost their touch, although their voices are a
> bit more raspy than years ago. Those three examples alone
> have more talent in their little pinky.... well, you get the
> picture! And, for that matter, if we could bring back Carl
> DeSuze, he could probably breathe new life into WBZ better
> than some new untested voice. It's not that newbies and
> younger folks are less talented, it's just that those folks
> who did it on the air a generation ago had the benefit of a
> different mindset of broadcasters, where REAL entertainment
> was someone who could crack a mic, in ANY format, and
> entertain without a lick of showprep if needed.
>
> Someone try to tell me that the great Harvey Wharfield or
> John Garabedian wouldn't kick ass if given a time slot on
> any station today and told, 'do whatever you want within the
> format and we'll back ya'.
>
> Some of it is the corporate mentality, to be sure. But much
> of it is air talent that gets it into their pointy little
> heads after 6 months on the air that they are a big star and
> deserve a raise, respect, etc.... no, sir, all those things
> are earned one show at a time. Or, to put it bluntly,
> 'you're only as good as your worst break'.
>
> Nik, your comments are right on. Sure wish a few people
> would actually listen... unfortunately, much of the
> mentality on this board is that of my 15 year old son. He
> knows more than dad will ever know..... Off my soapbox now.
>
>
> "and I would have
> > gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for you meddling
>
> > kids"
>
> ...PRICELESS!
>

 

[fccfight]

wanted to go hear Al Air America Radio at the Wilbur, but...no rest for the weary.

 

[NotoriousN-I-K]

> Knowing something about this market, it is interesting to
> see the so-called
> "Professionals" complaining when they fail to get ratings,
> fail to build an audience, but love to take snipes at
> people.
>
> Being in another field - and happy in that field - It is
> interesting when
> radio professionals ask me to produce at a 50,000 watt
> station or help run a station (be they small AM stations,
> still, I had "the power") with so many
> "professionals" out there who seemingly brag that they
> can do a better job.
>
> Radio is a hobby for me. For many on the board it is a
> hobby - and it is really sad to see the "professionals" gang
> up and denigrate a man's hard work - but, hey, if pros need
> to beat up on us hobbyists because they are so tired of
> rejection from the current crop of PDs and MDs, what does
> that say about them?
>
> Public Access, which ClassicRadioNut just shamelessly
> attacked with a very transparent "read between the lines",
> is an important tool. Since many of my interviews are
> better done in a professional setting than on the telephone,
> I utilize that resource.
>
> When Howie Carr taped an hour of his show and zapped it out
> to Public Access
> (when Steven Dodge was at the helm of American Radio Systems
> after Dodge ran...a cable company???), didn't Howie get a
> bump in the ratings? It appears he was more popular when he
> used all tools available.
>
> Steve West can dish it out - will he let a post stand that
> responds to his invective? Probably not - we're not allowed
> to criticize moderators, even though they take shameless
> swipes at posters.
>
> Nik Carter had a good political ally. That person was sent
> packing, after way too many years harming the radio station
> he was supposed to oversee. Carter's
> dirty talk to "bisexual" women (Nik refuses to call them
> lesbians) is not the kind of standard chatter that makes for
> good radio. It is denigrating (that word again). Howard
> Stern's silly talk is part of his charm - why would jocks
> want to follow someone else's lead when that someone does it
> better?
>
> When DJs entertain, as Charles did, as Matty does, as Ken
> once did, they become part of the culture. They don't spend
> their time with us fans being insulting on this board.
>

Well to begin you began the thread in a blatant attempt to bait people like Neanderpaul and myself and I proved you wrong with my post. also they didnt spend time insulting you fans because the internet had not existed when they were in their heyday, well maybe Matty.. Fans? who are you a fan of when you make posts like this?.. As for the "dirty talk" for someone who espouses his own sexuality as frequently as you do and uses it as an excuse to say things to me that are in short racist, yet you feel you have the right to because you are "a minority too", well your prudish demeanor is a little disingenuous. It's not that I refuse to call bi sexual women lesbians, there is a difference in the two, whether you like it/understand it or not. I dont think frank discussion of sexuality and or sexual practice is "dirty" if it were not entertaining so many people both male and female would not have been interested and listened, and listen they DID!.

As for public access of course you have to attempt to defend it, it is not an important tool, it is your only recourse, let's just be honest for once here, just as blogging is your only recourse and I have no issue with either but when you try to elevate those mediums (where essentially anyone who asks to be on air is allowed to), yet at the same time try to put down those hard working professionals who are actually WORKING for a living and doing it somehwere that is NOT reserved for any crack pot who desires air time, then you go too far and will be held accountable on this board. Being combative does not get your point across, you're not impressing anyone by shouting from the sidelines about who is viable and who is not while at the same time trying desperately to count yourself an equal among those who you continuosouly try to bad mouth.

Charles was is amazing once in a lifetime talent and a very, very good man from what I know of him. Matty is also obviously quite a legend around these parts himself. Shelton? I always thought was mediocre at best and just happened to come along and be at the right place and time in radio history. Where the rules were being written so there was no real right or wrong way to do things, and conversely anything that one did on air had a lot more gravity to it because it had not really been done before, thats what you get when a format (in this case rock radio) is in it's infancy, that sia period which we shall never see again, in any format because thee rules have been written and they are fairly solid now.

As for having a political ally that is a crock, yes Oedipus was a great ally for me in my career but you act as though I had never done anything before or since BCn, for your info I have worked on air at Five different stations with different formats, Ive worked extensively in tv (before Movie loft which was on commercial TV not apublic access channel in some basement studio) and had a syndicated radio show which aired in 5o plus markets around the country. So when decide that radio is no longer just a "hobby" for you and you actually get a position somewhere then maybe Ill give your criticisms some weight. Until then quit throwing stones and then crying 'Im the innocent victim" " the real culprits blame the innocents".........It's just dumb and at this point weird.

 

[fccfight]

I'd rather we take this to my MediaBoston blog but will address the
issues you brought up:

NIK WROTE:

Well to begin you began the thread in a blatant attempt to bait people like Neanderpaul and myself and I proved you wrong with my post.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND, AND IT IS JUST ONE PERSON'S OPINION.
STOP BEING SO DEFENSIVE

also they didnt spend time insulting you fans because the internet had not existed when they were in their heyday, well maybe Matty.. Fans? who are you a fan of when you make posts like this?.. As for the "dirty talk" for someone who espouses his own sexuality as frequently as you do

FCCFIGHT RESPONSE
A discrimination case (or two or three or four) against any big Corporation is to be applauded. That is hardly flaunting one's sexuality, especially when the
first case came because I was outed. Kind of like what Opie & Anthony did to you only more vicious because in that world my personal life was NO ONE'S
BUSINESS.

NIK SAYS:
As for public access of course you have to attempt to defend it, it is not an important tool, it is your only recourse,

THIS IS WHERE NIK IS DEFENSIVE AND NASTY.

My "only" recourse? The extensive articles this writer has had purchased and
published about the vital importance of access means I put my money where my
mouth is - unlike certain people. Those who attack access TV are showing how
small they are. The political climate at each access station is much like radio, but Access documents the history of each city and town. That you feel
to see the importance of EVERY American is truly selfish and small-minded.

NIK SAYS
let's just be honest for once here,

FCC SAYS:
You're the one who pads the resume

NIK SAYS:
just as blogging is your only recourse and I have no issue with either but when you try to elevate those mediums

FCC SAYS
This is so ridiculous; do a google - Blogs are only something I've recently encountered - and since every single song I've written will get its own blog,
you will be correct that the medium is being used - but not for your approval.
It's a great way to get the intellectual property over to SESAC, ASCAP, etc.


NIK SAYS
(where essentially anyone who asks to be on air is allowed to),

WRONG AGAIN. There's a Senior Citizen being harassed and THROWN OFF THE PROPERTY, that I am defending in a lawsuit. You are so wrong. When I see
Senior Citizens getting bashed and laughed at, a Brazilian employee -
and, Nik, a gay and an African American, you bet I filed that paperwork at
the courthouse. You bet. And that case is current. Calling a hard working
married person an "f...ing immigrant" is hardly what I call kosher, but it
is exactly the kind of thing certain hard working people faced at a certain
radio station in Boston until the corrupt "boss" was shown the door.

A mid day jock called "irrelevant" - please - the guy helped BUILD the station.


NIK SAYS:
yet at the same time try to put down those hard working professionals who are actually WORKING for a living and doing it somehwere that is NOT reserved for any crack pot who desires air time,

AGAIN - some of us defend the victims. Other people just yap.

then you go too far and will be held accountable on this board.

ACCOUNTABLE? Do you even know the dictionary definitions of the words you use?

Being combative does not get your point across,

LOOK IN THE MIRROR


you're not impressing anyone by shouting from the sidelines about who is viable and who is not while at the same time trying desperately to count yourself an equal among those who you continuosouly try to bad mouth.

I THINK EVERYONE IS EQUAL IN GOD'S EYES, except maybe the lunatic who stole
the White House. But even you and your former boss are in my prayers, believe
it or not. The nut in the White House is not.


NIK WROTE:
As for having a political ally that is a crock, yes Oedipus was a great ally for me in my career but you act as though I had never done anything before or since BCn,

FCC WRITES:
Oedipus viewed all employees and associates as expendable. Don't consider yourself the only victim of his poor judgment - Oedi was an equal opportunity
basher who exacted his vindictive leanings on Charles, Ken, Mark, and many
more.

Please don't respond to this - it will look like a flame war. Just correcting your inaccurate essay. You won't be able to resist, just as you keep writing me offline, Nik.

FCC has spoken

 

[NotoriousN-I-K]

> I'd rather we take this to my MediaBoston blog but will
> address the
> issues you brought up:
>
> NIK WROTE:
>
> Well to begin you began the thread in a blatant attempt to
> bait people like Neanderpaul and myself and I proved you
> wrong with my post.
>
> YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND, AND IT IS JUST ONE PERSON'S
> OPINION.
> STOP BEING SO DEFENSIVE
>
> also they didnt spend time insulting you fans because the
> internet had not existed when they were in their heyday,
> well maybe Matty.. Fans? who are you a fan of when you make
> posts like this?.. As for the "dirty talk" for someone who
> espouses his own sexuality as frequently as you do
>
> FCCFIGHT RESPONSE
> A discrimination case (or two or three or four) against any
> big Corporation is to be applauded. That is hardly flaunting
> one's sexuality, especially when the
> first case came because I was outed. Kind of like what Opie
> & Anthony did to you only more vicious because in that world
> my personal life was NO ONE'S
> BUSINESS.
>
> NIK SAYS:
> As for public access of course you have to attempt to defend
> it, it is not an important tool, it is your only recourse,
>
> THIS IS WHERE NIK IS DEFENSIVE AND NASTY.
>
> My "only" recourse? The extensive articles this writer has
> had purchased and
> published about the vital importance of access means I put
> my money where my
> mouth is - unlike certain people. Those who attack access
> TV are showing how
> small they are. The political climate at each access
> station is much like radio, but Access documents the history
> of each city and town. That you feel
> to see the importance of EVERY American is truly selfish and
> small-minded.
>
> NIK SAYS
> let's just be honest for once here,
>
> FCC SAYS:
> You're the one who pads the resume
>
> NIK SAYS:
> just as blogging is your only recourse and I have no issue
> with either but when you try to elevate those mediums
>
> FCC SAYS
> This is so ridiculous; do a google - Blogs are only
> something I've recently encountered - and since every single
> song I've written will get its own blog,
> you will be correct that the medium is being used - but not
> for your approval.
> It's a great way to get the intellectual property over to
> SESAC, ASCAP, etc.
>
>
> NIK SAYS
> (where essentially anyone who asks to be on air is allowed
> to),
>
> WRONG AGAIN. There's a Senior Citizen being harassed and
> THROWN OFF THE PROPERTY, that I am defending in a lawsuit.
> You are so wrong. When I see
> Senior Citizens getting bashed and laughed at, a Brazilian
> employee -
> and, Nik, a gay and an African American, you bet I filed
> that paperwork at
> the courthouse. You bet. And that case is current.
> Calling a hard working
> married person an "f...ing immigrant" is hardly what I call
> kosher, but it
> is exactly the kind of thing certain hard working people
> faced at a certain
> radio station in Boston until the corrupt "boss" was shown
> the door.
>
> A mid day jock called "irrelevant" - please - the guy helped
> BUILD the station.
>
>
> NIK SAYS:
> yet at the same time try to put down those hard working
> professionals who are actually WORKING for a living and
> doing it somehwere that is NOT reserved for any crack pot
> who desires air time,
>
> AGAIN - some of us defend the victims. Other people just
> yap.
>
> then you go too far and will be held accountable on this
> board.
>
> ACCOUNTABLE? Do you even know the dictionary definitions of
> the words you use?
>
> Being combative does not get your point across,
>
> LOOK IN THE MIRROR
>
>
> you're not impressing anyone by shouting from the sidelines
> about who is viable and who is not while at the same time
> trying desperately to count yourself an equal among those
> who you continuosouly try to bad mouth.
>
> I THINK EVERYONE IS EQUAL IN GOD'S EYES, except maybe the
> lunatic who stole
> the White House. But even you and your former boss are in
> my prayers, believe
> it or not. The nut in the White House is not.
>
>
> NIK WROTE:
> As for having a political ally that is a crock, yes Oedipus
> was a great ally for me in my career but you act as though I
> had never done anything before or since BCn,
>
> FCC WRITES:
> Oedipus viewed all employees and associates as expendable.
> Don't consider yourself the only victim of his poor judgment
> - Oedi was an equal opportunity
> basher who exacted his vindictive leanings on Charles, Ken,
> Mark, and many
> more.
>
> Please don't respond to this - it will look like a flame
> war. Just correcting your inaccurate essay. You won't be
> able to resist, just as you keep writing me offline, Nik.
>
> FCC has spoken
>
For starters Im never a victim in any situation, and Oedipus had nothing to do with my leaving wbcn as he left before I did so again im sorry that the actual facts get in the way of your agenda but history is what it is whether you acknowledge reality or not. Im sorry that you and reality ar enot on speaking terms very often. You know for someone who considers himself such a well known writer my thought is if you actually were you would not need to tell people every single time you post what a well known adn respected writer you are. To be honest your writings are never very creat6ive and always very convoluted, you dont seem to be able to maintain one linear thought, gee I wonder why?.

Why do you even start posts that you almost always eventually end up getting closed and removed from the board?

 

[Kerianne]

> >
> For starters Im never a victim in any situation, and
> Oedipus had nothing to do with my leaving wbcn as he left
> before I did so again im sorry that the actual facts get in
> the way of your agenda but history is what it is whether you
> acknowledge reality or not. Im sorry that you and reality ar
> enot on speaking terms very often. You know for someone who
> considers himself such a well known writer my thought is if
> you actually were you would not need to tell people every
> single time you post what a well known adn respected writer
> you are. To be honest your writings are never very creat6ive
> and always very convoluted, you dont seem to be able to
> maintain one linear thought, gee I wonder why?.
>
> Why do you even start posts that you almost always
> eventually end up getting closed and removed from the board?
>

Since this thread is going to be deleted, can I just say I had the biggest crush on Nik when I was in high school?

Damn you for making me think radio was so cool and dragging me into this profession!

 

[Smoke]

I hope it's not deleted.

> Since this thread is going to be deleted...

I hope not, these have been some intresting exchanges. Certaintly better than my posts. ;P

Hey, where's Frish?

 

[Frish]

Re: I hope it's not deleted.

> > Since this thread is going to be deleted...
>
> I hope not, these have been some intresting exchanges.
> Certaintly better than my posts. ;P
>
> Hey, where's Frish?
>
I was taking a break from the board. If you read this thread you can see why. Just a headache to get through reading the poison spewed.

 

[classicradionut]

Re: I hope it's not deleted.

Sure, I'll keep this thread as a shining example of how NOT to behave.

The only thing I wonder is why the same person gets banned and keeps re-registering... Gotta get that fixed one of these days.

Oh yea, thread closed. Lets talk about something else.

> > > Since this thread is going to be deleted...
> >
> > I hope not, these have been some intresting exchanges.
> > Certaintly better than my posts. ;P
> >
> > Hey, where's Frish?
> >
> I was taking a break from the board. If you read this
> thread you can see why. Just a headache to get through
> reading the poison spewed.
>
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